1965 5c SMS70

thepesokid · November 7, 2003 12:22PM

I have a nickel in a slab marked 1965 5C SGS SMS70 , when I look this coin up I see three prices one for 1965 DC and 1965 CA and 1965 , how can I tell the differance.

kamehameha00 · November 7, 2003 12:30PM

1.SGS Sucks,treat there coins like they were 20 points overgraded.
2.C Means Cameo,DC means Deep Cameo

MadMarty · November 7, 2003 12:31PM

SGS MS70=PCGS MS65

Placid · November 7, 2003 12:33PM

You want to look for 1965sms DC and 1965sms CA and 1965sms.

The CA and DC stand for cameo and deep cameo. Its not easy to explain other than cameo has to do with the frost and deep cameo the frost and the mirrors.

SGS is the grading company?

LALASD4 · November 7, 2003 12:38PM

What does a PCI 69dcam = to in PCGS terms for nickel?
How about NGC , do they cross well to PCGS in the proof nickel series?

cladking · November 7, 2003 12:57PM

Generally such coins will grade much lower at PCGS but it's not impossible someone
unknowingly sent a very high grade coin to one of these graders.

CarlWohlforth · November 7, 2003 11:40PM

LALASD4: most PCI DCAMs I've seen are plain cameo at best. Most are also overgraded by 2 points or more. I've heard rumors that nice coins have been found in those holders, but I haven't seen it happen in person.

I've only looked at a few proof Jeffs in SGS holders. The ones I've looked at convinced me I'm wasting my time even looking at SGS slabbed proof Jeffs.

I've found NGC to be a good and pretty consistent service. Their standard for proof Jeffs seems to be maybe half a point lower than PCGS's standard. They do give out the cameo designation for coins that are only lightly frosted. Their Ultra Cam standard appears very close to PCGS's DCAM.

XpipedreamR · November 8, 2003 12:09AM

If SGS doesn't even call it CAM, or DCAM, then you can at least be sure that it's neither of these. These lower tier grading services call everything CAM/DCAM!

1965 5c SMS70

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