Toned VS. White - You Chose and Why? NEW UPDATE: Changed White Iowa to Show IWOG'S White Coin

FC57Coins · October 27, 2003 1:54AM

A click here, a nudge there - and voila - more luster! I normally don't do this on pics, but since people were saying this was an unfair poll I thought I'd nudge the white pic a bit

Placid · October 27, 2003 1:58AM

Starting trouble already?

MadMonk · October 27, 2003 2:01AM

Based on the picture, which I know you realize is very tough to make a good judgement, I go with the White piece this time. The toned one just doesnt seem to have enough pizazz. And I love attractively toned coins.

XpipedreamR · October 27, 2003 2:07AM

That toned Iowa is hot!

I have an MS66 white version and compared to the toned one it is booooooooooooooooooooring!

agentjim007 · October 27, 2003 2:07AM

Is this a trick question?
A all the way.
I think one's choice here could say alot about the person in general.
Those that pick A are creative, exciting and look for adventure.
Those that pic B are most likely accountants, and have a daily routine a blind man could follow.

Clankeye · October 27, 2003 2:13AM

Frank, Frank, Frank... from these scans, I don't think it's a fair fight.

If you're going to put up a white Iowa, at least give us a blazer. And if that one is and it's just the scan, then you really should reshoot it to make this more fair.

I always lean toward toned coins, but the first one here looks far more dramatic than the white one. And I know Iowa's come with lots of luster, and it would be easy to put one up that would appeal to some people as much as Mr. Toned. But, as it stands now the white example you offer as a choice looks totally lack-luster. Not fair!

Clankeye

MacCoin · October 27, 2003 2:18AM

I'm not into the tone coin thing. but this is nice too

mgoodm3 · October 27, 2003 2:21AM

Any coin that is nice looking, toned or not I like. But in general if you have a toned coin vs white of similar quality I will go with toned.

Bikingnut · October 27, 2003 2:21AM

Both are very nice, but that toning is awesome.

FC57Coins · October 27, 2003 2:43AM

I'll admit that the picture of the white coin is not the best, but that was the best I could find on Ebay. In it's defense, it is a PCGS MS67 to my toned PCGS MS66 - does that appease the savage beasts in here now?

paigowjohnny · October 27, 2003 2:57AM

I don't have much interest in commems, but if I were gonna get one of the two, I'd go for the toned one. I just think it's more attractive and "original" looking.

puff · October 27, 2003 3:17AM

"A" because "all" white coins look the same to me!

Shamika · October 27, 2003 3:41AM

"A" because it has more personality.

edsondl · October 27, 2003 3:47AM

I prefer white coins for my set, but I went with A. In this case, the white coin has no luster, while the toned coin does, at least from these representations. If the white coin had the same luster as the center of the toned coin, I would have picked B instead.

Shamika · October 27, 2003 3:49AM

edsondl,

Take a look at the white coin again. I believe it's a blazer.

cosmos66 · October 27, 2003 3:56AM

If the two coins are equal grade and similar price I will usually go with the toned coin if I like the looks of it.

FC57Coins · October 27, 2003 4:01AM

Guys - I wish I could tell you more about the white coin, but it's as it appears on an internet scan where someone's selling it. Suffice it to say that indeed, Iowa's do come with very nice luster, so I would assume that at an MS67 grade, this coin would also have very good luster. Unfortunately the seller wasn't able to capture it. You'll have to use a little imagination on that one. However, the main point of the thread still remains true. If the coin on the right had all the luster you wanted on it - would you chose it? Or would you go for the one on the left and why?

Frank

Placid · October 27, 2003 4:07AM

Both

pmh1nic · October 27, 2003 5:39AM

Even given the limitations of photographying toned coins the toned Iowa looks like a lusterous coin with vivid color. The toning gives it a unique characteristic that sets it apart from it's blast white brothers and other toned specimens.

Speaking of toned versus white I probably will never collect a set of exclusively blast white coins. I need the variety that collecting a toned set provides. This is not a bash of white coins. Just expressing my preference for that type of variety.

relayer · October 27, 2003 6:00AM

It's a virtual dip

Clankeye · October 27, 2003 6:35AM

That's better, Frank. Now it's a horse race!

I'll still take the toned one.

Clankeye

Shamika · October 27, 2003 6:38AM

Ditto!

XpipedreamR · October 27, 2003 6:55AM

Much better.

I'm not saying I don't like the white one-I do, it's fabulous, but the toned one is a little more exciting. Can I have both anyway?

wallstreetman · October 27, 2003 6:59AM

B is a lot better preserved, I dont mind a little lite toning but A is too dark, looks more like the damage that toning really is! Seal it up right away!

puff · October 27, 2003 7:02AM

<< B is a lot better preserved, I dont mind a little lite toning but A is too dark, looks more like the damage that toning really is! Seal it up right away! >>

Ignorance is bliss I guess!

WWW · October 27, 2003 7:05AM

Ignorance is bliss I guess!

And WSM is as blissful as they get.

wallstreetman · October 27, 2003 7:06AM

You should know! I guess we all know what puff stands for!

wallstreetman · October 27, 2003 7:07AM

Speaking of ignorance!

puff · October 27, 2003 7:09AM

<< Ignorance is bliss I guess!

And WSM is as blissful as they get.

>>

puff · October 27, 2003 7:12AM

<< You should know! I guess we all know what puff stands for! >>

The "MAGIC DRAGON"!!!

fivecents · October 27, 2003 7:25AM

The toner hands down, it has character.

I have seen alot of white Iowa commems, but this is the first one I have seen toned. Is the Iowa commem hard to find with color?

Clankeye · October 27, 2003 7:28AM

<< Is the Iowa commem hard to find with color? >>

Not at all! Place an order with any number of guys and they will whip you up five or six of 'em in a jiffy.

Clankeye

Edited to add--I have seen some real colorful ones, but mostly--I've seen them white.

ALHENDER22 · October 27, 2003 7:31AM

I sometimes choose white coins and other times toned coins, I go for EYE APPEAL. Much like I dont buy the plastic for the plastic,
I dont care who holdered the coin, I am looking for the EYE APPEAL. Plastic can always be changed down the road. Many people
miss out on great coins simpily because they are in a PCGS holder.

Allen

Bear · October 27, 2003 8:04AM

If it wouldn't be too much trouble,

can I have both coins?

ConstellatioCollector · October 27, 2003 8:44AM

I always go for the white coins. The white Iowa is a little out of focus.

stujoe · October 27, 2003 9:05AM

In this case, I will go with the white example. If it wasn't for the green, I would go with the toner.

jom · October 27, 2003 10:40AM

Can't really tell by the picture but if the toned one doesn't have impeded luster I'll take it all day long and twice on Sunday.

jom

pmh1nic · October 27, 2003 10:58AM

"looks more like the damage that toning really is"

Another one that needs an education on the meaning of the word "damage"

. And I guess when you see a rainbow after a storm you think it's damaged sky

FC57Coins · October 27, 2003 11:02AM

<< And I guess when you see a rainbow after a storm you think it's damaged sky >>

Paul - in this case you may be on to something

toners · October 27, 2003 12:27PM

tone,tone tone especially on commeratives
Allen

Iwog · October 27, 2003 3:06PM

The nature of a highly lusterous coin is that it looks different from every angle while a toned coin looks pretty much the same no matter how you view it. Either way, the white Iowa photo sucks, try this one.

jcping · October 27, 2003 5:33PM

Well..... even with the new picture, I did not change my mind. My vote still went to the toned one.

Gemini · October 27, 2003 8:17PM

The right toning such as this toned Iowa posesses adds great drama life and dimension plus a pleasant feeling of antiquity and originality.

LucyBop · October 27, 2003 8:28PM

Give the HepKitty those crazy colors!

pmh1nic · October 27, 2003 8:56PM

Iwog

I don't think your photograph would have made any difference in the voting.

"The nature of a highly lusterous coin is that it looks different from every angle while a toned coin looks pretty much the same no matter how you view it."

You're kidding right. I guess you're going to tell us that it takes a deeply descerning eye to notice and appreciate those differences. You probably didn't notice that the toned Iowa has quite a bit of luster and will (because of the various angles the light reflects through the thin film interference) have different "looks" as you rotate the coin and view it from different angles.

Iwog · October 27, 2003 11:54PM

Nawwww.....only elitist snobs say it takes a discerning eye to see how nice a coin is. Kinda like calling people who can't tell NT vs AT stupid.

jom · October 28, 2003 12:17AM

<< Nawwww.....only elitist snobs say it takes a discerning eye to see how nice a coin is. >>

As opposed to the "elitist snobs" who tell us:

<< The nature of a highly lusterous coin is that it looks different from every angle while a toned coin looks pretty much the same no matter how you view it. >>

jom

pmh1nic · October 28, 2003 12:20AM

P.S. For any newbies on board, don't get thrown off by the sarcasm between Iwog and I. We've been jabbing at each other for a couple of years now and neither of us takes this stuff personal.

Say "Amen!" Iwog

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Iwog · October 28, 2003 12:29AM

As opposed to the "elitist snobs" who tell us:

<< The nature of a highly lusterous coin is that it looks different from every angle while a toned coin looks pretty much the same no matter how you view it. >>

Simple physics bub. It's a matter of degree, but the more luster a coin has the more the look changes as it moves around. Since silver sulfide scatters light instead of reflects it (making colors) it's easier to photograph and changes less. I'm sure the toned Iowa does change as you rotate it, but not nearly as much as a blast white coin would.

To be an elitist I'd have to say "It takes a lot of experience to learn to appreciate blast white coins and new collectors aren't sophisticated enough to know how beautiful they are."

mdwoods · October 28, 2003 12:34AM

My goodness Iwog. Nearly anyone with a decent camera can take a photo of a blast white coin. Ask anyone who takes photos. A toned coin will often show different colors
at different anges. A white coin will be white. Some coins look great when they are blast white. Like a high grade Franklin half dollars. Others like the Iowa are kind of blah without some color to them. You may like all coins blast white, most collectors would prefer a nice toned coin for classic silver anyways.

Iwog · October 28, 2003 1:03AM

Preference isn't an issue with me, buy what you like.

My main issue with toned coins is that dealers will use a high priced toner to justify stupid prices for ugly junk. Since humans tend to want to follow the herd, many will buy these coins based on the hype alone. (read $400 beanie babies)

A simple fact is that 95% of toned coins do NOT sell for as much as their blast white counterparts.

Toned VS. White - You Chose and Why? NEW UPDATE: Changed White Iowa to Show IWOG'S White Coin

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