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I'm a new member! Of the PCGS Fingerprint club!
MadMarty
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This puppy went to PCGS in the cello!
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
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Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Clankeye
Actually looks better than the real one, tho!
The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)
Only kidding.
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That shows how much respect some of the people there have for customers property.
A few weeks back I asked on the Q&A if anyone uses gloves. DH said that they do everything bare-handed but are very careful.
Even bare-handed I'm sure that could have been avoided.
The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)
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The good thing about having multiple personalities is that there's always a designated driver.
Yes, I'm an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial.
And for the "print", how the hell else are they supposed to push the coin into the insert?
Better watch out when it comes back from their review, it may just have a boogie-woogie in there, or would that be a snotsie-watsie? Damn, where's the hepkitty when you need her?
Jim
The sealers are not highly paid and don't need to know much about coins... they also might have to push a coin to make it fit... OOPS!
Jeremy
They probably had to pick them up after they dropped it on the floor
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I remember Hall talked about the fingerprint phenomenon at the registry luncheon. The gist, as I remember, was that while the graders didn't use gloves (too clumsy), lots of claims about fingerprinting come from people handling the coins before the submissions are probably not true. Because fingerprints sometimes take awhile to show up on the coins, it's hard to prove where they come from.
Doesn't sound like there's much doubt about this one, though, since Marty sent it in the cello! I'm glad to hear customer service wants you to send them back to them. Seems like you have a guarantee to activate.
Since this is apparent proof that some fingerprinting does actually happen at PCGS (as people around here have always contended), that's really scarey. Whoever fingerprinted this Lincoln was unbelievable rushed and/or careless. Any neophite would be careful enough not to pick up and hold a coin in a fashion to leave a print like that!
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
did any one ever say this........rhetorically or really?
"the guys cant eat lunch and grade then.......they say their sandwiches were starting to taste funny."
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
I can think of a dozen reasons not to have high capacity magazines, but it's the reasons I haven't thought about that I need them.
Properly centered coins do sometimes rotate in the holder. It can be a bit difficult to get coins in the "rattler" holders (slabbed from '86-August '89) to the proper, cwentered position. For the others, gentle tap the holder on a hard surface, and the coin shouould rotate back to the proper position.
With regard to coins that are "reverse" holdered, it is usually done at the request of the submitter. For example, if the reverse of the coin has spectacular toning and the obverse does not, it can be desirable to have the coin reverse holder to show off the toning. There are some coins, e.g., some comms. were people sometimes get confused as to which is the obverse and which is the revse, and as a result a slabbing error occasionally happens.
thin rubber gloves ~ they do take a little getting used to but a person can adapt fairly quickly...
Had the same problem with a batch of Proof DCAM cents
a 60 small date and a few nice 62 and 64 cents. The good news was that they graded them 68DCAM, and upon return had prints.
They ending up buying them all back at between thier so called wholesale and retail. It was about what the coins would sell for in the open market, and not a real bad deal. I did wnat one of them for my collection (the small date) but alas, they own the coins.
It also took over 2 months to get squared away.
Good Luck!
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
Perhaps it was a PR69DCAM but was downgraded for the prints!
should PCGS then be responsible for the grade they assigned with the damage they caused, or how the coin would have graded beforehand??
dragon
<< <i> I still say use thin rubber gloves (like the Doctor ones). >>
Yep, put the gloves on and then dip their hands in acetone as punishment......that might make a 'lasting' impression on these careless boobs!
<< <i>Properly centered coins do sometimes rotate in the holder. It can be a bit difficult to get coins in the "rattler" holders (slabbed from '86-August '89) to the proper, cwentered position. For the others, gentle tap the holder on a hard surface, and the coin shouould rotate back to the proper position. >>
Tried the tapping trick. That sucker inside ain't moving.
I can think of a dozen reasons not to have high capacity magazines, but it's the reasons I haven't thought about that I need them.
Hmmm ... there are several generations of PCGS slabs after the rattler. Can you post a pic of the slab. Maybe it does not work for all types ...
<< <i>May want to consider putting together a set of finger printed coins .... >>
Thanks Fudude! That was funny! I needed that
Next registry set will be of fingerprinted coins. Extra points given if you can identify one with HRH's prints
But, if one could ever fingerprint each grader as they go through, then compare prints...well, that would be one way for HRH to show that the prints are not from his people but likely were there prior to submittal.....could save them money from having to buy back coins....
Ron
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