Copper experts, does this Two Cent Piece look like it might be a proof?

Russ · October 21, 2003 12:09PM

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The surfaces do seem prooflike, much more so than my mint state examples. But, I don't have any experience with these in proof - or any early copper proofs for that matter - so I don't know how to determine it one way or another.

What do you guys think? Proof or circulation strike?

Russ, NCNE

Placid · October 21, 2003 12:14PM

A proof with a die crack. Kind of doubt it.

coinguy1 · October 21, 2003 12:15PM

Definitely not, Russ - sorry.

For what it's worth, here is a Proof of that date:

Russ · October 21, 2003 12:18PM

<< <i>Definitely not, Russ - sorry. >>

Mark,

Don't be sorry, I'm GLAD it's not a proof. I don't collect them so if it was I'd have to figure out some way to get rid of it and start trying to find another 1869.

<< <i>A proof with a die crack. Kind of doubt it. >>

Yeah, it has a BUNCH of them. I think it's pretty cool.

Russ, NCNE

XpipedreamR · October 21, 2003 1:43PM

It doesn't look like a proof.
It's a very nice looking coin!

Russ · October 22, 2003 1:53AM

Hey, look, it's a cool coin.

Here, I'll add a thread magnet: PCGS sucks!

Russ, NCNE

jonesy · October 22, 2003 2:55AM

Nice looking coin Russ!!

Placid · October 22, 2003 2:58AM

Tell the story Russ. Where did you get it? Is it raw? What does it grade if in a slab?

Russ · October 22, 2003 3:08AM

Placid,

Currently raw, formerly NGC MS64RB.

Russ, NCNE

Placid · October 22, 2003 3:13AM

Nice

lathmach · October 22, 2003 10:37AM

Diagnostic for the proof is the missing serif on the top of the "D" in UNITED on the reverse.
Look for yourself.

Ray

Russ · October 22, 2003 10:41AM

<< <i>Diagnostic for the proof is the missing serif on the top of the "D" in UNITED on the reverse.
Look for yourself. >>

Actually, many of the business strike Two Cent Pieces have an incomplete D - including this one.

Russ, NCNE

mdwoods · October 22, 2003 10:46AM

Great photo Russ. I think it's a wonderful coin. Whoever you got that from must have quite an eye.

lathmach · October 22, 2003 10:47AM

I was just going to edit my post Russ, to say I don't know the series well enough to know if the business strikes of that year also had the missing serif. The info on the serif I got from Breen's Book on the proofs.

Ray

Russ · October 22, 2003 10:52AM

<< <i>Great photo Russ. I think it's a wonderful coin. Whoever you got that from must have quite an eye. >>

Mark,

You want to hear something funny? Despite the trials and tribulations thus far, it is actually my favorite piece.

Russ, NCNE

lordmarcovan · October 22, 2003 10:54AM

Nice coin, even if it ain't a proof. The strike's too mushy-lookin' for a proof, I guess.

I'm a year off, but y'all have given me another opportunity to show mine, yet again:

I'm thinking of selling it. Just thinkin', mind you. Haven't made up my mind.

Copper experts, does this Two Cent Piece look like it might be a proof?

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