Copper experts, does this Two Cent Piece look like it might be a proof?

Russ

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The surfaces do seem prooflike, much more so than my mint state examples. But, I don't have any experience with these in proof - or any early copper proofs for that matter - so I don't know how to determine it one way or another.

What do you guys think? Proof or circulation strike?

Russ, NCNE

Placid

A proof with a die crack. Kind of doubt it.

coinguy1

Definitely not, Russ - sorry.

For what it's worth, here is a Proof of that date:

Russ

<< <i>Definitely not, Russ - sorry. >>



Mark,

Don't be sorry, I'm GLAD it's not a proof. I don't collect them so if it was I'd have to figure out some way to get rid of it and start trying to find another 1869.



<< <i>A proof with a die crack. Kind of doubt it. >>



Yeah, it has a BUNCH of them. I think it's pretty cool.

Russ, NCNE

XpipedreamR

It doesn't look like a proof.
It's a very nice looking coin!

Russ

Hey, look, it's a cool coin.

Here, I'll add a thread magnet: PCGS sucks!



Russ, NCNE

jonesy

Nice looking coin Russ!!

Placid

Tell the story Russ. Where did you get it? Is it raw? What does it grade if in a slab?

Russ

Placid,

Currently raw, formerly NGC MS64RB.

Russ, NCNE

Placid

Nice

lathmach

Diagnostic for the proof is the missing serif on the top of the "D" in UNITED on the reverse.
Look for yourself.

Ray

Russ

<< <i>Diagnostic for the proof is the missing serif on the top of the "D" in UNITED on the reverse.
Look for yourself. >>



Actually, many of the business strike Two Cent Pieces have an incomplete D - including this one.

Russ, NCNE

mdwoods

Great photo Russ. I think it's a wonderful coin. Whoever you got that from must have quite an eye.

lathmach

I was just going to edit my post Russ, to say I don't know the series well enough to know if the business strikes of that year also had the missing serif. The info on the serif I got from Breen's Book on the proofs.

Ray

Russ

<< <i>Great photo Russ. I think it's a wonderful coin. Whoever you got that from must have quite an eye. >>



Mark,

You want to hear something funny? Despite the trials and tribulations thus far, it is actually my favorite piece.

Russ, NCNE

lordmarcovan

Nice coin, even if it ain't a proof. The strike's too mushy-lookin' for a proof, I guess.

I'm a year off, but y'all have given me another opportunity to show mine, yet again:



I'm thinking of selling it. Just thinkin', mind you. Haven't made up my mind.