Grade this 1965 business strike Kennedy Half.
Russ
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Picked this up at the show today:
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Blazing luster and a cartwheel that will make you cross-eyed. Save for a couple very minor ticks on the obverse, the fields are essentially immaculate. Some minor hits to the portrait, but in the less obtrusive areas. Beautiful shield.
I think it's a solid MS66. Your thoughts?
Russ, NCNE
Large images here:
Click for large obverse image.
Click for large reverse image.
Blazing luster and a cartwheel that will make you cross-eyed. Save for a couple very minor ticks on the obverse, the fields are essentially immaculate. Some minor hits to the portrait, but in the less obtrusive areas. Beautiful shield.
I think it's a solid MS66. Your thoughts?
Russ, NCNE
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It's still a 0% excellent coin however
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<< <i>MS67+++ imo >>
Fivecents,
The only way it would get in to a 67 holder is if the eye appeal puts it there. Technically, I think it comes up short. But, it does have a stunning visual impact to it and grading services are sometimes known to give a little bump when the coin grabs them hard enough.
<< <i>Now the trick is to get PCGS to accept it as a business strike and not call it an SMS. >>
Frank,
That is, of course, a concern. They're notorious for doing that to business strikes that look exceedingly nice.
BTW, the dealer had it graded MS65 with a price of $11. Being the poor person that I am, I was able to get it for $8.50. I told the dealer that if I could get a little discount I would be able to eat lunch.
Russ, NCNE
There are also a couple ticks on his lower neck, and one running horizontally in his hair right above the sideburn.
Edited to add: The one above the sideburn is really more like a slight scrape of a high point in the hair. Actually very hard to see on the coin itself.
Edited again to add: It would sure make my day if you were right and I'm wrong!
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I was able to get it for $8.50. I told the dealer that if I could get a little discount I would be able to eat lunch. >>
You should've discussed your beater ECONOLINE van with him - you probably could've gotten the coin at melt then
Russ, NCNE
al h.
The word I've heard is that if PCGS can't take a cursory look at a 1965-67 coin and decide whether or not it's an SMS or a business strike, they classify it as SMS. I've heard of collectors sending coins freshly out of original rolls from those years and having them all come back with the SMS designation.
it's been discussed quite a bit that it's reasonable to assume all roll coins aren't necessarily business strikes. if a collector had a high grade coin and could determine it was without a doubt a business strike, it would be a simple matter of having ANACS or SEGS holder it as such, then a crossover attempt.
this scenario is in the perfect world!!
al h.
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Personally, I plan to stay away from the 65, 66 and 67 coins; been burned too many times.
Hate to post a negative message on such a nice day, will now end with a smiley!
because of problems. The scratch on the temple alone should keep it out
of MS-67.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
<< <i>so the rub is a high grade SMS-year business strike is worth more than a similar grade SMS coin? >>
Cam40,
A LOT more. There are only ten (10) 1965 business strikes in MS67, with 62 in MS66. There are a zillion SMS coins in MS67.
An MS66 business strike is about a $90 to $100 coin, an MS66 SMS might bring $15 on a good day. I don't know what an MS67 business strike would bring, but I'd guess it would be around the $1500 mark. An MS67 SMS, around $30.
Russ, NCNE