guess the grade-$5 liberty in mint state

darktone · October 16, 2003 9:57PM

I like the colors of this one.

mike

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razorface1027 · October 16, 2003 10:01PM

62.578...

Blade · October 16, 2003 10:13PM

I broadly agree with Razor. Reverse looks excellent - maybe 64, but the obverse has too many hits and scuffing for a 63.

Edited to say - Yes. I love that light gold toning!

nwcs · October 16, 2003 10:24PM

VERY attractive. I'll give it a 64 or 65.

RiffRaff1967 · October 16, 2003 10:35PM

I'm *very* new at this, but I think MS62. Unfortunatley, as I'm learning to grade, I seem to be grading 1 under everyone else on MS coins - so this may be an MS63 by default.

darktone · October 16, 2003 10:53PM

wow- tough crowd! Here's the first ms63 listed in the auction archives at the Heritage site for a comparrison. I hope mine looks a bit better than 63

. mike

1907Quarter · October 16, 2003 11:16PM

I'm concerned about the upper hair-soft strike? shame about the little hit on the beak

mgoodm3 · October 17, 2003 2:46AM

My first instinct looking at the pic was 64. So I'll go with that.

Shamika · October 17, 2003 3:04AM

The obverse is a little scuffy, but I don't see any problem with this coin grading MS64.

Steve27 · October 17, 2003 3:14AM

My first guess was 63, but yours does look better than the 63 example, so I'll go with 64.

khayse · October 17, 2003 7:34AM

Yours looks better than the first 63 you pulled up but worse than the first 64 I pulled up.

So it's somewhere in there.

-KHayse

darktone · October 17, 2003 8:06AM

PCGS MS65 is the grade. In my view it is a typical ms65 coin with excellent color. Thanks nwcs! the rest of you can jump in a lake

- just kidding I expected low grades from those not familiar with gold. mike

nwcs · October 17, 2003 8:15AM

You do come up with these great gold ones! I hope I can find a few eye appealing ones that escaped your far reaching and searching eye.

lclugza · October 17, 2003 8:53AM

I say it's Uncirculated.

jom · October 17, 2003 9:00AM

A GEM grade is not surprising as I don't think most people can grade gold thru a picture. It's very tough. That coin has very little "scuff" actually. The "colour" (note the "u"...lol) makes this coin GEM, IMO.

In person, it's easier but people who are used to Morgans will tend to undergrade a gold coin.

jom

abuell · October 17, 2003 9:00AM

Choice unc. There's unc, choice unc, gem unc, superb gem unc and FDC (fleur de coin). If anyone feels the need to split hairs any finer than that they really should sell their coins and use the proceeds for psychiatric help.

jom · October 17, 2003 9:02AM

<< <i>split hairs any finer than that they really should sell their coins and use the proceeds for psychiatric help. >>

LOL. I totally agree but you are preaching to a brick wall here...

jom

abuell · October 17, 2003 9:12AM

Yea I know. But the truth is still the truth and the hype is still the hype and ne'er the twain shall meet.

coinkat · October 17, 2003 9:36AM

great looking coin and 65 for this is about right in light of the color and originality

fcloud · October 17, 2003 10:12AM

Nice to see them not dipped out! Nice looking coin!

fountainheadgold · October 17, 2003 2:31PM

my guess is ms65 , i only have my gaudens to compare it to but gold is gold

ohbaby · October 17, 2003 2:49PM

I would have guessed 64 given the soft strike and ticks on the portrait. This is a 65 I would pass on, too many better 65s out there.

The best way to learn a series and how to get a better idea what's out there....go to a national show and look at box after box of coins. You'll soon see what a real 64 or 65 or 63 looks like. Years ago I bought about 8 FE cents, all "PCGS64s", half of them were low end I came to discover as I got better at grading. I now own 3 solid 65s, once you see a "REal" one you'll know.

darktone · October 17, 2003 9:36PM

<< <i>I would have guessed 64 given the soft strike and ticks on the portrait. This is a 65 I would pass on, too many better 65s out there. >>

soft strike? what do you mean soft strike? If you can find a 65 with no nicks or surface marks it's not a 65 it's a 69. I can take criticism well most of the time...... but you might want to take a look at a few $5 liberty's in MS65 so you can see that these are not graded the same as flying eagle cents. Sorry I just don't want those unfamiliar with $5 liberty's to read this and think they can compare the grade of a flying eagle cent to a $5 liberty. mike

razorface1027 · October 17, 2003 9:55PM

OK..Mike! Bottom line, what is it?.... The suspense is killin' me......

darktone · October 17, 2003 9:59PM

PCGS MS65. I actually posted the grade a few posts up last night. I am almost a little afraid to show the next MS65 $5 liberty I am expecting soon.

mike

darktone · October 17, 2003 10:01PM

razorface1027, You should enable your personal message capability in your profile. This way you can be sent private messages. mike

guess the grade-$5 liberty in mint state

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