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guess the grade-$5 liberty in mint state

darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
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I like the colors of this one.image mike
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      • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
        62.578...
        What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?
      • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744 ✭
        I broadly agree with Razor. Reverse looks excellent - maybe 64, but the obverse has too many hits and scuffing for a 63.

        Edited to say - Yes. I love that light gold toning!
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      • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
        VERY attractive. I'll give it a 64 or 65.
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      • RiffRaff1967RiffRaff1967 Posts: 405
        I'm *very* new at this, but I think MS62. Unfortunatley, as I'm learning to grade, I seem to be grading 1 under everyone else on MS coins - so this may be an MS63 by default. image
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      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        wow- tough crowd! Here's the first ms63 listed in the auction archives at the Heritage site for a comparrison. I hope mine looks a bit better than 63image. mike
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        • 1907Quarter1907Quarter Posts: 2,770
          I'm concerned about the upper hair-soft strike? shame about the little hit on the beak
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        • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
          My first instinct looking at the pic was 64. So I'll go with that.
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        • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
          The obverse is a little scuffy, but I don't see any problem with this coin grading MS64.
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        • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
          My first guess was 63, but yours does look better than the 63 example, so I'll go with 64.
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        • khaysekhayse Posts: 1,336 ✭
          Yours looks better than the first 63 you pulled up but worse than the first 64 I pulled up.

          So it's somewhere in there.

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        • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
          PCGS MS65 is the grade. In my view it is a typical ms65 coin with excellent color. Thanks nwcs! the rest of you can jump in a lakeimage- just kidding I expected low grades from those not familiar with gold. mike image
        • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
          You do come up with these great gold ones! I hope I can find a few eye appealing ones that escaped your far reaching and searching eye. image
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        • lclugzalclugza Posts: 568 ✭✭
          I say it's Uncirculated.
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        • jomjom Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
          A GEM grade is not surprising as I don't think most people can grade gold thru a picture. It's very tough. That coin has very little "scuff" actually. The "colour" (note the "u"...lol) makes this coin GEM, IMO. image

          In person, it's easier but people who are used to Morgans will tend to undergrade a gold coin.

          jom

        • abuellabuell Posts: 715
          Choice unc. There's unc, choice unc, gem unc, superb gem unc and FDC (fleur de coin). If anyone feels the need to split hairs any finer than that they really should sell their coins and use the proceeds for psychiatric help.
        • jomjom Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


          << <i>split hairs any finer than that they really should sell their coins and use the proceeds for psychiatric help. >>



          LOL. I totally agree but you are preaching to a brick wall here... image

          jom
        • abuellabuell Posts: 715
          Yea I know. But the truth is still the truth and the hype is still the hype and ne'er the twain shall meet.
        • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
          great looking coin and 65 for this is about right in light of the color and originality

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        • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
          Nice to see them not dipped out! Nice looking coin!

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        • fountainheadgoldfountainheadgold Posts: 2,467 ✭
          my guess is ms65 , i only have my gaudens to compare it to but gold is gold
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        • ohbabyohbaby Posts: 768
          I would have guessed 64 given the soft strike and ticks on the portrait. This is a 65 I would pass on, too many better 65s out there.

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        • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


          << <i>I would have guessed 64 given the soft strike and ticks on the portrait. This is a 65 I would pass on, too many better 65s out there. >>
            soft strike? what do you mean soft strike? If you can find a 65 with no nicks or surface marks it's not a 65 it's a 69. I can take criticism well most of the time...... but you might want to take a look at a few $5 liberty's in MS65 so you can see that these are not graded the same as flying eagle cents. Sorry I just don't want those unfamiliar with $5 liberty's to read this and think they can compare the grade of a flying eagle cent to a $5 liberty. mike
          • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
            OK..Mike! Bottom line, what is it?.... The suspense is killin' me......image
            What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?
          • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
            PCGS MS65. I actually posted the grade a few posts up last night. I am almost a little afraid to show the next MS65 $5 liberty I am expecting soon.image mike
          • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
            razorface1027, You should enable your personal message capability in your profile. This way you can be sent private messages. mike
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