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Will the $1 coin ever replace the bill?

Just wondering if anyone thinks the $1 coin will ever replace the bill? I understand that the Federal government would save a lot of money annually (something like $500,000,000.00) if the bill was phased out and permently replaced by the coin. But will it ever happen? Is it the idea of a coin that turns people off, or is it the size, weight, design, or just the familiarity with the bill? I would think that if people knew 1/2 billion dollars a year could be saved it might change a few minds about the switch-over.
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  • Eventually, due to inflation, the current $1 will have the worth of the penny. So the answer to your question is yes. However the time frame is not known.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    before that ever has a chance to happen, i think plastic (the credit-card kind) will replace both.

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  • They would have to stop printing the paper dollar, and that isn't going to happen any time soon.

    50 cent peices never caught on, I don't think a dollar coin will.

    Anyway, we are moving more to a "cashless" culture.
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  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    I can't invision a scenario where that happens.


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  • << <i>1/2 billion dollars a year >>



    Thats about the budget of New York City in a week. So it isn`t enough to make more then a hiccup. But in Canada they got rid of the $1 bill in 1987 and switched over to $1 and $2 coins instead. They got use to it and we would too. People would complain if they paid a $2.51 bill and only get 49 cents back on a $5 bill because they don`t like a pair ugly Sacs in there pocket. People probably will complain by the switch then will get tired of complaining and accept it if something like this happens.
  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭


    << <i>50 cent peices never caught on, I don't think a dollar coin will. >>


    Most older people would beg to differ with you on this. Half dollars were at one time a strong part of the cash economy in the US. It was when vending machines were built to accept up to quarters when the half dollar lost its steam, then its decline was further increased by the modern generation's idea that anything larger than a quarter was "bulky" and "too heavy."

    In actuality this country needs to get off its uncreative and wasteful duff and mint a $1, $2 and $5 coin and leave the paper to the higher denominations that warrant it. We need to catch up to the rest of the world. The EEC uses a coin worth around $2.50(US) and people use it every day and don't whine about it like Americans whine about not having their way outdated $1 bills.
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  • Hi,

    I just returned from Canada and they have a 1 and 2 dollar coin. Both circulate easily and I didn't find them weighting me down even when I had 4 or 5 in my pocket. As most of us save our change everyday, throwing 1 and 2 dollar coins into the old plastic mug would add up much, much faster than quarters. Speaking of halves, just where do they all go? I haven't seen a Kennedy in circ in years. My solution would be to cut back, not eliminate , printing paper dollars and "force" folks to start using the gold dollar. Again, where are all these going? image
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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    its the whole change issue...the other day at a coffee shop my bill was $ 3.57 the guy said dont bother with the pennies since the bank charges him money to accept change....
    but yes Canada has great system and when I am up there I like the $1 and $2 coins
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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    In actuality this country needs to get off its uncreative and wasteful duff and mint a $1, $2 and $5 coin and leave the paper to the higher denominations that warrant it. >>


    Well said!
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  • Force 'em! They'll get used to it.

    > Thats about the budget of New York City in a week. So it isn`t enough to make more then a hiccup.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only way is if they quit printing paper $, by then as someone said, will be a plastic society.
  • I travel to Canada quite a bit on business and I still cannot get used to non-fractional coins. One day I made several different stops and mad a bunch of purchases. By the time I got back to the hotel I had 13 loonies and $2 pieces. I was just not able to ever use up those pieces during my trip. I ended up stopping at the Windsor casino before crossing back into the US and spent them in the slots.

    Could have been just my inexperience handling $1 and $2 coins but it always seemed I ended up with more coins at the end of the day than when I started.

    As for the $1/2billion in savings, until they clean up the pork in the budget there are plenty of other useless projects to cut before uproot the monetary system, but that's for another thread at another time.
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  • I don't think anytime soon, but I can see in somenumber of years, they remove the penny and one dollar bills, and make coins for 5,10,25,100 cents. Maybe they will or won't have a 50 cent coin, maybe if they do they'll get popular to use again.
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    I agree. Stop printing the dollar, and within 3 years they won't be used any more. People will be glad to get $2 notes and $1 coins instead of loads of quarters.

    When they re-started the Sac, a law mandating new vending machines take dollar coins would have helped. No retrofit charges, but in 5 years I'd think half of all machine would be accepting dollars. In time, those that didn't would be at a disadvantage.
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will never happen.

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  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    If they get rid of the one dollar bill, where am I going to put the dancers tip? lol
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $1 coins have replaced paper ones in many countries around the world. In Argentina the $1.00 bi-metallic is very cool looking and very practical. When I visited there they were ideal for paying for bus and subway tokens, buying drinks and hot dogs (Everything was a minimum of $1.00 in Buenos Aires) they were even nice for the constant stream of beggars one encounters.

    I think a Bi-metallic coin about the size of a half dollar would do the trick....or maybe not.

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  • CoulportCoulport Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>50 cent peices never caught on, I don't think a dollar coin will. >>



    Oh, the innocence of youth.

    Prior to the disappearance of US silver coins, the 50¢ coin represented considerable purchasing power and were certainly in circulation.




    And no, the dollar coin will never succeed till the paper version is stopped. This subject has been brought up many times.
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  • The only way I see this happening is if the half gets a redesigned along with a dollar coin. I really like the sac and would not complain if the paper note went away. I would, however, like to see a nice half to go along with it.

    One other stumbling block would have to be the coin-op industry. They will have to support the changes quickly for the new coins to take hold. From there, it would only be a short amount of time. I, for one, and tired of trying to find five quarters for the Pepsi machine when it keeps spitting my GW note back at me.

    We are due for a change in our change and I'd fully support it. I WANT my substitute for "shin plasters." image
  • hmmm. . . .it would be nice to see a circulating silver dollar again.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Get rid of the dollar bill. Dollar coins will come into circulation right away. Why is this so hard. Canada did it. The UK did it. In my trips to both places, it was really nice not to have to deal with paper for the little purchases. You don't have to deal with bills that are crumpled and falling apart, with trying to get them into your wallet, with trying to get them into a vending machine.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Speaking of circulating silver, my mother told me that during WWII, people in Utah and other western states preferred silver dollars to paper. Silver dollars circulated widely. Ah, those were the days.
  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭
    the only way is to force the bill out of circulation is to stop printing it.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    It will only happen by force. Just do the deed. People will adjust.
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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Get rid of the dollar bill. Dollar coins will come into circulation right away. Why is this so hard. Canada did it. The UK did it. In my trips to both places, it was really nice not to have to deal with paper for the little purchases. You don't have to deal with bills that are crumpled and falling apart, with trying to get them into your wallet, with trying to get them into a vending machine. >>


    Canada, UK, Ireland, France, Belgium, Switzerland, Greece, Italy, Turkey, and over a dozen other countries I've been to. The US is the ONLY country I know of in the major economic market that doesn't have a coin for the base unit of currency INSTEAD of a note. It's the only country I know of that tries to circulate both, which is just plain retarded.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People might well reject the dollar coin if it were ever offered, but so far they
    haven't had a chance. The banks refuse to issue the coin so no one really
    knows if the coin could succeed or not. Some people would complain about
    the coin but it could simply be exchanged for a bill in those cases. With the coins
    actually circulating even those who don't like them might find that they really are
    more convenient.

    The costs of the bill are much higher than just the huge costs of printing and dis-
    tributing them. The costs also include many billions of dollars of lost sales for
    vending machines and the costs of counting the mountains of bills which rapidly
    become tattered and worn in circulation.
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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    It really aggravates me to think that $500,000,000.00 of our tax money isn't worth enough for politicians to think about saving. When a bill lasts on average 17 months and a coin, what, 30 years the choice should be a no brainer. Oh that's right we are talking about politicians, they are the epitome of "no brainers".
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  • Hmmh, paper & metallic currencies! They'll both be phased out and plastic crediting systems will be integrated, thus, the conservation of our natural resources. Therefore, HOARD all you can HOARD!..image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say no. The Federal Government has been trying for 165 years to find a dollar coin that the public would use. The closest they came was in the 1850s with the "real" golden dollars. Those coins were popular for a while because their value was reliable (unlike the private bank notes of the period), and they not so large as to wear holes in people's pockets.

    Unfortunately they proved to be too small, and when the government finally got it right with respect to size, the Civil War came along and drove all of the gold out of circulation.

    Americans just don't want to use a dollar coin. The only way to force them to use it would be to do away with the paper dollar.

    So far as saving governemnt money, that's a load of cr*p. If the money were saved Congress would just find a new way to waste it.
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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's already happened for me. I collect gold dollars, and I can honestly say that they have replaced a large number of my paper dollars........................
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  • Hopefully yes, but first the government has to decide/choose between the metallic or paper lobbies.
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  • What is money; but dirty pieces of metal and paper upon which privilege is stamped...Hell, I say go the plastic route so we collectors can hoard such as we do presently and make a fortune...image
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  • << <i>It's already happened for me. I collect gold dollars, and I can honestly say that they have replaced a large number of my paper dollars....... >>



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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all...er...most of the great responses. I think I'll write my senators and congressman. It probably won't do angood but I'll feel better if I do.
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  • << <i>If they get rid of the one dollar bill, where am I going to put the dancers tip? lol >>


    Same place but you'll use $2 notes instead. Come on after all this time those girls deserve a raise don't they?

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