Where is the mintmark on a 1911 $5 Gold Indian?

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 1:46AM

I just got this back from PCGS and they labelled it 1911-S. For the life of me; I can't find the "S."

kieferscoins · August 8, 2003 1:48AM

Reverse left hand side. It's incuse and sometimes hard to see.

Cameron Kiefer

coinguy1 · August 8, 2003 1:50AM

massscrew, the mintmark will be on the reverse, near the rim at approximately 7:00. Some of them are quite weak/faint.

kieferscoins · August 8, 2003 1:52AM

This one dosen't have one, but they are near the tip of the arrow at about 7:00 like Mark said.

Cameron Kiefer

jom · August 8, 2003 2:01AM

<< <i>Reverse left hand side. It's incuse and sometimes hard to see. >>

Correction: The mintmark is NOT incuse. It is actually in relief....which probably led to the weakness seen in many of the dates.

Here is a pic of a $2.5 but the mm is in the same position:

jom

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 2:29AM

I found the area; but I'm not seeing an "S." I can find a small nick or bagmark but that's it. Does PCGS ever make mistakes such as this or should I just trust that they're seeing something that I'm not. I'm using a 10x loupe....

jom · August 8, 2003 3:39AM

I would consider, if you can, in sending the coin back to whoever you bought it from. I collect the series by date and I do NOT like weakly struck mintmarks. I mean, if you can see the mm why not just get an 11-P, which is probably cheaper?

jom

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 3:53AM

jom,
I actually bought this coin as a "P." It was labelled simply 1911. I sent it to PCGS (for authenticity) and just got it back today. I'm just not seeing where they're coming up with the "S." There's nothing there that I can see with a 10x loupe but a bagmark...

jom · August 8, 2003 3:55AM

They must have seen something...I dunno...or they mislabed the slab. ???

You might be able to sell it for something more than the typical 11-P. That's what I'd do...but maybe you are just interested in the "type" so it may not matter to you.

jom

Placid · August 8, 2003 4:00AM

This is the $5 1911-s reverse.

Check the cert number in the database and see if it also shows your coin as a s mint.

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 4:00AM

It's probably mislabelled. That would be my luck. Maybe I'll send it back to PCGS and let them figure it out. Thanks for the replies....

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 4:07AM

Here's the "Cert Verification" info:

COIN INFORMATION
Date, mintmark: 1911-S
Denomination: $5
Variety: N/A
Grade: VF30

I don't know; maybe I need a more powerful loupe? Or, it's mislabelled. Would it really be worth sending it back?

Placid · August 8, 2003 4:11AM

Is rim worn at all in that area? Maybe the mint mark is just worn off? Can you post a picture of the reverse?
Maybe someone revomed it on purpose. People used to do strange things to gold coins and save up the small gold amounts removed.

The s is worth a little more than the p anyway.

jom · August 8, 2003 4:12AM

Yeah, I didn't know it was a VF. Since the mm is in relief it might have been worn off. Also, there might be some OTHER diagnositcs of an 11-S that I'm not aware of that PCGS is privy to.

jom

USMC_6115 · August 8, 2003 4:37AM

I think you guys are right. I suspect that PCGS definately knows what they are doing. It must have worn off or something...Thanks again for all your help.

Where is the mintmark on a 1911 $5 Gold Indian?

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