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keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
I thought I'd relate my short vacation to the ANA Show complete with some deeeeeeep thoughts about the actual show itself!!

Me and my girlfriend rolled out of North Madison, Ohio, at about 7 AM Tuesday and had a rather uneventful drive with the exception of of road construction in Pennsylvania. Much to our amazement Rt. 95 or whatever we were on ended right at the Convention Center. We located some parking and stopped at the Holiday Inn where we talked with kranky for a short time and planned the show strategy for the next day. then off to Upper Marlboro where we stayed till Friday with friends.

The first night was kind of funny because I mentioned that I had never eaten crabs before and was going to attend a dinner with some "coin guys" on Thursday, so I was given a crash course on cracking crabs!! Not what I had expected. Much work with little payoff and quite a mess. Crab eating tip: eat something before dinner and don't wear anything that stains easily!!

Wednesday morning found me eager to get out the door and early at kranky's hotel. We got to the show, registered and I joined up to become a full-fledged ANA member. Next came some quick aution lot viewing and then the opening ceremony where they announced the Fifth Nickel. It was really quite a surprise. Finally we were allowed into the show and since it was my first biggeeee I was thrilled. Kranky announced that he needed to look for sample slabs and that was the last I saw him for a few hours. I had some specific dates I was looking for and it was good to have a short list because there was way too much to just look at and people/dealers to try to find. What I ended up buying on Wednesday was a 2-cent piece.
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What's funny about the coin is that I didn't realize I'd bought it from a forum member until after I was home. I ended up going back to his table the next day and introducing myself to talk for a while.

I had taken my counterstamped Cleveland Commem's to the show hoping to get them slabbed by ANACS but they wouldn't do it. Instead, I walked them to NGC and they agreed to holder them, which is a bit of a surprise. One should grade and the other will probably end up in an NCS net holder, still authenticated. I took some submission forms to fill out and planned to return in the morning. I had a good time chatting with the NGC grader who took the coins and had some time to watch him assess a group of mostly cleaned Morgans for an older gentleman. Not a pretty sight.

On Thursday I went to the show without my girlfriend and took a change of clothes for the MDWoods/GSAguy birthday bash. First stop was NGC to drop off the aforementioned Cleveland's and then some looking around at coins/tables I had noted the day before. Having bought the two-center, I focused mainly on a 3-cent Nickel 1866, 5-cent 1867 w/rays and an 1870 half-dime. While there were boatloads of the coins I had a chance to look at, the specific dates/grades I was trying to find were almost non-existent---MS/PR 63. The experience was good, though, since it allowed me to do some comparison that is probably unheard of elsewhere. I took some time from the bourse floor and walked through the exhibits and looked at the Lib Nickels before heading out for lunch. Before I left for the day I picked up a nice half dime and crossed it off the list.
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Thursday evening found a peculiar conglommeration of forum members together in a small room swinging wooden hammers, not at each other as might be expected, but at hapless crabs!! It was quite a topper after the show. I sat next to Anaconda and he had the lines of the night, first when he leaned over and said "I can't believe I paid $60 for potato salad and corn" which was a reference to what you really get from a crab, next to nothing. The best, though, was when we went around the tables and introduced ourselves. He stood and stated that he was "Laura Sperber" and the place rolled!!

On Friday I went and stood in the "Presedential preview line" to let DH give an assessment of two Buffalo's I have, specifically, whether he saw the tone as genuine and what his grade estimate would be. He thought they looked a bit like Chicago coins but would holder at MS63/64. With my allotted minute gone, I went to shop!! and grabbed a medal/so-called-dollar in copper that I had seen at a table on Wednesday.
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I like Jefferson so I bought it to go into that part of my collection. I then went to see the folks at Capital Plastics and they measured the medals/coins for some custom holders I'm having made. It was about time for the Registry Luncheon by now so we walked over to the Sheraton and had a great meal while DH handed out the awards and gave a short talk that ende with a few questions. The most profound thing he said was quite simple: get focused. Decide what you want to collect and zero in on that area without wasting time, energy and MONEY in other areas. But we all already knew that!!!

And that was it for me. Try as I might I couldn't convince my girlfriend to hang around a bit longer. We headed up to Gettysburg for two days, took in the battlefield and the town. What a way to end the week. If you've never been to an ANA Show, make plans NOW for next year. and if you've never been to Gettysburg, figure out a way to get there, also.

Al H.image

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  • Fabulous original color on the two cents and the half dime..

    Congrats,

    Steveimage
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like fun. Except the crab part. I don't fancy the idea of eating an underwater buglike critter that feeds on fish poop and rotting sea offal. Blecch.

    Wish I coulda been there. Nice travelogue.

    I'll be in Orlando come January, though.

    Edited to add a thumbs-up on your purchases, too: image

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post. Thanks.

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  • Great post! I wondered where you disappeared to after the luncheon....Ken
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Great coinsimage

    Great postimage

    Reports like yours have me kicking myself for not finding a way to get there.image
  • Amazing, and I was going around introducing myself as Adrian (or David Hall on occasion)! image
    Laura Sperber


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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey ken

    that whole lunch was sweeeeeet except that it ended real quick. i never had a chance to speak with you or Merz to set something up for Gettysburg. i talked with beartracks and excused myself to ask BJ a question and when i came back most everyone was gone. i did call Don's home Friday evening and got no answer, figured he must have been at "The Show" so me and Casey went on as best we could, strangers in the wilderness!!

    al h.image

    .......hey laura, it was one of those "had to be there" moments!! i'm kind of small potato's compared to that assembled room, and i was sort of in the corner with Adrian to my right and TBT's Brian across from me. there was good talk till the food appeared and the free-for-all ensued.image
  • Great report Keets. image
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    It was good to see you and your girlfriend there. I'm surprised the Buffalos only got a verbal 63/64. I figured the eye appeal might get them into 65 range. All of your purchases look very nice.

    I got a little envious that everyone but me got to go to the registry set luncheon, so I'm going to start one using coins I already have.

    And thanks for the ride back to the hotel after the crab dinner!

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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coins, great post, EXCEPT for the crab part.

    I spent four years in college in Maryland and must say fell in love with the area and the cuisine. Some of my best memories from college revolve around our favorite Annapolis crab shack called Mike's for dollar crabs, dollar beer night.

    To get full on crabs all you need is time. I was just last night eating out with an Academy/flight school roommate at the Monterey fish house here on the peninsula. He ordered crab cakes and we both commented that the only way that it would be better was if the cakes were made from Maryland blue crabs instead of California Dungeness.

    And here you and Anaconda were in crab heaven and didnt even know it!!!!

    Will have to educate you and anaconda if we are ever out there in the future. Give me a beer, blue crabs, some Old Bay and a nice proof gold piece and I'm in heaven!!

    j
  • Great post! It was good to chat with you on Friday. Also, the coin purchases look great. I missed Kranky at this show, but saw a whole bunch of forum members and they all seem to be great guys...most are young enough to be ofspring of old bears like me! image
    May see you and kranky at one of the Cleveland shows later this year.image
    Gary
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  • Great review, I love the half-dime. Reading these makes me want to go to a big show more and more. Maybe next year...
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  • Sounds like you had a real adventure. As a Marylander, I'm sorry the crab experience
    didn't measure up to the coin experience, but coins is what you came here for.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice post Keets. Very interesting. I learned my lesson on soft shell crabs years ago. Once was enough. Pass the steak please.

    roadrunner
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Soft shell crabs. When you remove the shell, do you really want to look

    at the creatures internal organs and digestive tract. I guess thats why its always

    served with a lot of beer or other alcoholic beverage as a nausea suppressent.image

    Soft shell crabs are more then I ever want to know about crustacean biology.
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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keets pretty much gave all the details of the dinner (I sat on the other side of him). I would also like to thank him for a ride back to the hotel, with Kranky, after the blood fest ( I still have a "crab" wound).

    I suppose the funniest line I heard at the show was when I was going through double row boxes of slabs at a dealers table and he commented "Yeah, they call these rare coins" and then pointed to the hundreds of dealers around him.

    Over all a fantastic trip and something I will remember for ever. (and that is just meeting so many people that I "know" for the first time.)

    Well, I will just hang out here on a stop on the Lewis & Clark journey, and wait for keets to show up.

    (Keets, how far is Pittsburgh from Gettysburgh? Next years ANA is in the steel city, may have to make it out east again)
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Skipper

    the crab thing wasn't as bad as i made it out to be. as noted, persistence is the greatest need. crab just tastes so good that it's hard to wait and even harder to eat those small chunks.

    but i guess persistence is needed to build a nice collection, also. this was my first Major Show and i learned volumes and gained respect for what dealers have to do. i can't tell you how many times i made the rounds of the tables, passing what was crowded. with the two-center, i just wondered a few aisles over and came back 20 minutes later to an empty table that had previously been jammed, with one guy looking at the exact group of coins i wanted to view. the dealer explained that he was a variety collector. fortunately for me, he passed on everything.

    with the half-dime, i looked at the coin i bought after almost two days of seeing weakly struck coins or the date i wanted in a grade of MS64-66 but no MS63's. i really wanted a PR63 but gave that search up early Wednesday and started to look at MS63. two tables before i hit paydirt, i looked at an 1870 in an NGC MS 63-64 holder that had about one-quarter of the reverse denticles not even struck up and the top left wheat flat.

    oh yeah, i had a really sweet 1940 Jefferson in an old PCGS PR66 holder as a backup!!! i might PM the member dealer and see if he still has it, but if a Jefferson guy went through after me it's probably gone.

    al h.image
  • TootawlTootawl Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Soft shell crabs are more then I ever want to know about crustacean biology. >>



    When I was allowed to eat crabs (doctor's rule), the one thing I HATED was softshell crab sandwiches. I don't like eating sandwiches that have legs sticking out the side.
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post and coins. I had to leave the crab feast early. Wish we would have met. K
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    MS63/64??? Are we talking about the same Buffalo that you were showing off a couple of weeks ago?


    I know your frustration with cracking crabs. Next time, try crab cakes instead. You get a lot more substance in a lot less time.
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    HAH! You guys should have been setting by GSAGUY and Fantisiize. Both experienced crab eaters. They had me mowing through a mountain of crabs in no time. I actually stopped eating because I got full. Of course I still had a piece of Birthday cake. image Thanks again to Mitch for setting the dinner up. I had a blast and got to meet some great folks.

    Thanks also to Andy Skrabalak of Angel Dees for inviting me out to another dinner on Saturday night. A perfect way to end the trip to Baltimore. Our party had dinner overlooking the Inner Harbor. Fantastic food and vino. Also, a very special treat was our waiter Seamus who makes having Irish Coffee and experience to remember. If you get a chance, go to the Pisces for dinner. Make sure you make reservations way ahead of time and ask for Seamus and Irish Coffee. I guarantee you will enjoy the evening.

    This show was a great experience for me. The weather was mild until the last day of the show. There were tons of coins to view in the auctions and on the bourse. There was also a multitude of friendly faces. I wish I could remember 1/2 the names of people I met. And I picked up some great coins.
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't like eating sandwiches that have legs sticking out the side. >>


    LOL! That's my favorite part! It keeps everyone from wanting to share my sandwich!

    Great report Keets!

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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Too bad you seem to have been fed crab that were not fully grown into their shells, top grade crab when cooked properly and fully grown into their shells are to die for, check with Flash, he will tell you about the Oregon crab we harvest hereimage---------BigE
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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Thanks again to Mitch for setting the dinner up. I had a blast and got to meet some great folks. >>



    Did I say that? I should have. The forum is a different place when you put faces on so many of the names. Wish I had the seasoned crab tips at my end. We had Adrian!

    I also had an interesting dinner Saturday with 3 dealers from the show. Nothing like hearing about 6 figure coin deals being made.
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  • Next years ANA is in the steel city,...Wow!!! Here I come! One of the best Brewpubs in the world. The Church Brew Works!!!.....Ken
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Great write up keets and it was a pleasure to meet some of you guys. I just wish I had been there for Woods party at Obrycki's. I had my own there the next night and yes the crabs were alot of work.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943
    Keets, If you ever make it to the Panam City Beach area, I'll show you how to work those crabs over in short order in a various numbers of ways and you won't walk away wondering when you'll get some food in your belly.

    I may make the next show in Orlando! Have to wait till the 4 month old is easier to handle!! Could stay in Deland with my sister and family, send them to Disney or Daytona Beach while I enjoy the show! Not much in the Panhandle of Fla.
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  • That sounds like great fun!

    Crabs and coins are a great combination, as long as one washes up after the crabs and before touching any coins!
  • wow, sounds like you had a great time, wish I had been there
  • ahah Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    Great interesting post both on the coins and the crabs.
    Al
  • ANACONDAANACONDA Posts: 4,692
    Speaking of meals, I would like to have lunch with David Hall and Laura. I would even promise to just listen. I would just enjoy listening to them converse. By the way, does David curse much?

    (Speaking of Laura, Laura could go by just "Laura". She is, in so many ways, like some of the other one named people like Madonna and Cher. Hard to ignore... among other things. Of course, if you're a coin dealer, getting ignored is almost the last thing you want. "Dead", of course, is worse.)

    Anyway, yeah, dinner with the gang was good. I wish we could have had more people there. It would have been good to not have to expend so much effort to eat. Most of my crab induced injuries have finally healed. That's the first time i've ever had crabs. Good for me, eh? My suspicions are that the locals don't eat crab. Probably like rattlesnake is to Texans.

    adrian
  • Adrian........up my way we don't eat the WHOLE crab! I go to a great Chinese/American all you can eat Buffet......with the main draw of large Snow crab "legs". Next to the King Crab they are the best IMO. Many other seafood dishes, clams, oysters(great for labido!!), and the damndest stirfry custom prepared before your very eyes on a 4 foot round grill/woc!

    Sure the crab legs take a "little" effort to get them suckers opened up.......but on the larger legs and claws an easy ounce of meat per main part of leg or claw! And SWEEEEEEEET.............rarely need the butter! Sure they fight back once in awhile........i have have my battle scars.......but then who got the better of who in the end!!!! image

    Oh......forgot to mention......$8.99 Sunday-Thurs., and $9.99 Fri. and Sat. Bet i eat $35 in legs alone!!!! Compare that to those pricey Baltimore entres! image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about one of those fish-catching spiders? Scoop up the whole web, and you can have a fish sandwich, yet still get the legs-hanging-out effect, too.

    Spider? Crab? What's the difference? I'd just as soon eat one as the other. (OK, so maybe the spider's poisonous. All the better. Maybe the venom would paralyze my gag reflex.)

    They serve the whole lobsters here, steamed and split open down their backs, with all their green guts in there and all. Yummy. Lobster tail's one thing, but green lobster guts? Eeew!

    And I gotta say, the first person to eat a raw oyster must have been REALLY hungry.

    Oops. OT.

    Mmmmm....
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