@wondercoin said:
Zoins... I got the serial number on the other PCGS-MS62 specimen. Serial # 24247934. As you see, PCGS assigned to it a different coin number. So, the coin is actually pop 2/0 right now in MS62... but currently is showing pop 1/0 under 2 different coin numbers.
Happy to assist in getting the information more accurate on this rare collectible.
Wondercoin
According to PCGS cert verification, PCGS 24247934 is a Genuine Not-Gradable 2009 Silver Eagle.
Is there a different cert number or is this a mechanical error?
I've added a note that NGC MS62 may have been crossed to this number, but more info would be good to definitively confirm, such as a photo which is currently missing. I'm surprised there's no TrueView. Do you know if it's possible to get a photo of this PCGS MS62?
I gave Stacks “heads up” on the second PCGS MS62 graded coin ahead of that article’s release, but for whatever reason, they ignored it. Instead, choosing to assert the coin they are auctioning is nicer than the NGC 62 coin (an assertion I am not sure I agree with by the way). And, failing to acknowledge the coin they are auctioning is actually a pop of 2 in that PCGS grade and recently failed to sell at another auction venue (if I read the comments here correctly). We will see how they catalog the coin they are selling.
Just my 2 cents.
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Thank you for this amazing and informative post. I know the current owner of the PCGS AU55 (Knight-Pineda Specimen, currently #37231894) and saw the piece at the Chicago ANA 2019 show before it sold for $33,600. The current owner grew up in Asia and is a so-called dollar collector, and I don't think the AU-55 is going to be re-sold for another 40 years. The Knight-Pineda specimen (in my opinion) is far nicer in hand and much more like the past TrueView photo (under the old number # 83784389 ) in hand.
I am also friends with the owner of one of the Unc Details pieces who is in the market for a higher grade, so there may be some action in that area if something like an MS-60 to MS-62 were to go on the auction block.
There was an amazing exhibit on these SCDs at the 2019 Chicago ANA. I love the connection to the Assay Commission Medals too.
A So-Called Dollar and Slug Collector... Previously "Pioneer" on this site...
Pioneer1- The current owner of the AU55 did well on his purchase I believe. I personally thought the coin had a strong claim to the 58 grade. I even tried it once or twice before selling it on behalf of my principal. The PCGS 62 coin is wonderful as well. I think it has a strong claim to a 63 grade. You can tell your friend, if he would like a private showing of the PCGS 62 specimen, I would be happy to arrange for it. Just PM me.
Wondercoin
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I wonder why the entire mintage of this Gold Medal seems to have been impaired or treated badly during the ensuing years since it was struck, especially since they given as Presentation Pieces.
@keets said:
I wonder why the entire mintage of this Gold Medal seems to have been impaired or treated badly during the ensuing years since it was struck, especially since they given as Presentation Pieces.
WW2?
My father helped liberate the Philippines. Things were very bad there.
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I wonder why the entire mintage of this Gold Medal seems to have been impaired or treated badly during the ensuing years since it was struck, especially since they given as Presentation Pieces.
At least they weren’t tossed into the sea like the copper ones!
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there is another Gold Wilson Dollar that just posted at Heritage for an auction in August 2-4. a cursory check by me doesn't seem to match any cert numbers or pictured medals.
@keets said:
there is another Gold Wilson Dollar that just posted at Heritage for an auction in August 2-4. a cursory check by me doesn't seem to match any cert numbers or pictured medals.
@wondercoin said:
Zoins... I got the serial number on the other PCGS-MS62 specimen. Serial # 24247934. As you see, PCGS assigned to it a different coin number. So, the coin is actually pop 2/0 right now in MS62... but currently is showing pop 1/0 under 2 different coin numbers.
Happy to assist in getting the information more accurate on this rare collectible.
The JHF PCGS MS62 specimen PCGS-25247934 is on Heritage with photos now as part of the "Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins". It looks nice!
Zoins: I love the PCGS-MS62 gold example being auctioned off by Heritage at their December, 2026 Hong Kong auction. It was an honor to sell off all (4) of JHF’’s gold Wilson Medal specimens culminating with the sale of this finest known MS62 example. Another exciting event in the sale comes with the auction of this Wilson Matte Proof Presentation Dollar:
“Unique Matte Proof Presentation Wilson Dollar
USA Administration bronze Matte Proof "Manila Mint Opening Presentation" Medallic Wilson Dollar 1920-M PR65 PCGS, Manila mint, cf. KM-X11a (for type), cf. HK-450 (same). By George T. Morgan. An absolute stunner within the highly collectible and fleeting "Wilson" Dollar series, whose status in Matte Proof remains unchallenged and likely stands as a unique specimen that should interest all collectors of Philippines numismatics. While we handle the standard production issues in bronze with relative frequency, none compare in quality to the present example, distinguished by overall matte appearances and all you would expect of a Proof striking: squared rims and needle-sharp devices that lend an ample depth to the composition. Impressive to say the least, as a fully Gem preservation further elevates this into trophy territory. One collector purports this to be the very specimen that Speaker Osmeña of the House of Representatives struck in celebration to commemorate the medals at the opening ceremony on July 15, 1920. Regardless of this, the current representative is decidedly worthy of considerable attention from only the most serious of collectors hoping to add a unique piece of Filipino history to their cabinets.
The 1920 Wilson dollars were struck to commemorate the opening of the Manila Mint on July 6, 1920, the first and only time the U.S. government has established a branch mint outside of the Continental United States. These coins or, more properly, medals, were never given legal tender status, but many of the pieces did circulate in the Philippine economy before World War II. They are usually collected with the So-Called dollar series. The mintage was limited to 3,700 pieces in copper (HK-450), 2,200 examples in silver (HK-449), and five to ten specimens struck in gold (HK-1031). The silver medals were sold for $1 and the copper examples were offered at $.50 per piece. The gold specimens were presented to VIP's, including President Woodrow Wilson. A number of unsold specimens were dumped into the Pacific Ocean in 1942, to prevent their seizure by Japanese invaders.
Ex. Stack's Bowers Auction (December 1996, Lot 2929)
From the Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins, Part XIV
Metal: Bronze
Diameter: 39mm“
There are some incredible Philippine (USPI) coins being auctioned off in the upcoming December, 2026 Heritage Hong Kong sale (including a 1903-S 50C (known mintage of 2-3 coins)!
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
For completeness, we shouldn’t forget the fifth JHF Wilson Dollar (grading Gem) that will be appearing in that upcoming December Heritage event:
“Highly Original Gem Silver Wilson Dollar
USA Administration silver "Manila Mint Opening" Medallic Wilson Dollar 1920-M MS65 PCGS, Manila mint, HK-449, KM-X11. An issue struck during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson and issued for the opening of the Philippines mint in Manila. Few examples of this Medallic Dollar are offered in such a high state of preservation. Graded Gem Mint State, this piece rises above the concentration of MS64 examples and approaches the top of the certified population. Its surfaces display brilliance beneath mottled cabinet toning. Only a single example ranks finer, making this likely the finest that will come to market for some time.
From the Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins, Part XIV
Metal: Silver
Diameter: 38.00mm
Mintage: 2,200”
I am expected to be in Hong Kong for most of December, 2026 if any board members are planning to attend this watershed (auction) event or the 17th Hong Kong International Numismatic Fair (HKINF) that will also take place around the same time.
Coin Show Details:
• Dates: 8–10 December 2026 (Main Exhibition); pre-registration runs 3–7 December 2026 hong kong international numismatic fair
• Venue: Crystal Ballroom, Holiday Inn Golden Mile, 50 Nathan Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong.
• Hours:
• Main exhibition opens daily at 08:00 (exhibitor set-up 08:00–10:00)
• Hall closes at 19:00 on 8–9 December and 18:00 on 10 December 2026 hong kong international numismatic fair
• Highlights: Asia’s premier numismatic event featuring rare coins, banknotes, and historical currency with a strong focus on Chinese and East Asian numismatics, alongside official auctions.
Feel free to reach out to me if you will be attending either this auction or the coin show.
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
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According to PCGS cert verification, PCGS 24247934 is a Genuine Not-Gradable 2009 Silver Eagle.
Is there a different cert number or is this a mechanical error?
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/24247934
Try 25247934
Wondercoin
Thanks @wondercoin . That's the right number:
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/25247934
I've added a note that NGC MS62 may have been crossed to this number, but more info would be good to definitively confirm, such as a photo which is currently missing. I'm surprised there's no TrueView. Do you know if it's possible to get a photo of this PCGS MS62?
Here's the blog past from late last week: https://www.stacksbowers.com/News/Pages/Blogs.aspx?ArticleID=so-called-dollar-wilson
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I gave Stacks “heads up” on the second PCGS MS62 graded coin ahead of that article’s release, but for whatever reason, they ignored it. Instead, choosing to assert the coin they are auctioning is nicer than the NGC 62 coin (an assertion I am not sure I agree with by the way). And, failing to acknowledge the coin they are auctioning is actually a pop of 2 in that PCGS grade and recently failed to sell at another auction venue (if I read the comments here correctly). We will see how they catalog the coin they are selling.
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin
Thank you for this amazing and informative post. I know the current owner of the PCGS AU55 (Knight-Pineda Specimen, currently #37231894) and saw the piece at the Chicago ANA 2019 show before it sold for $33,600. The current owner grew up in Asia and is a so-called dollar collector, and I don't think the AU-55 is going to be re-sold for another 40 years. The Knight-Pineda specimen (in my opinion) is far nicer in hand and much more like the past TrueView photo (under the old number # 83784389 ) in hand.
I am also friends with the owner of one of the Unc Details pieces who is in the market for a higher grade, so there may be some action in that area if something like an MS-60 to MS-62 were to go on the auction block.
There was an amazing exhibit on these SCDs at the 2019 Chicago ANA. I love the connection to the Assay Commission Medals too.
A So-Called Dollar and Slug Collector... Previously "Pioneer" on this site...
Pioneer1- The current owner of the AU55 did well on his purchase I believe. I personally thought the coin had a strong claim to the 58 grade. I even tried it once or twice before selling it on behalf of my principal. The PCGS 62 coin is wonderful as well. I think it has a strong claim to a 63 grade. You can tell your friend, if he would like a private showing of the PCGS 62 specimen, I would be happy to arrange for it. Just PM me.
Wondercoin
This MS62 sold for $66,000 in Jan 2020.
A So-Called Dollar and Slug Collector... Previously "Pioneer" on this site...
ANACS 1040348 is now slabbed as PCGS Cert 39215465 and now offered on Heritage.
Here are the PCGS and ANACS photos.
Every bit as nice as the 62? But, likely at a tiny, tiny % of the price.
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin
I wonder why the entire mintage of this Gold Medal seems to have been impaired or treated badly during the ensuing years since it was struck, especially since they given as Presentation Pieces.
WW2?
My father helped liberate the Philippines. Things were very bad there.
I> @keets said:
At least they weren’t tossed into the sea like the copper ones!
there is another Gold Wilson Dollar that just posted at Heritage for an auction in August 2-4. a cursory check by me doesn't seem to match any cert numbers or pictured medals.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/so-called-dollars/tokens-and-medals/1920-medal-wilson-manila-mint-opening-gold-medal-hk-1031-allen-m-3-krause-x-11b-edge-damaged-pcgs-genuine-unc-detai/p/1318-54079.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
the medal below has a very distinguishing scratch right along the jawline, easily seen in the larger image.
Thanks for posting! It's great to add this and track another specimen!
The JHF PCGS MS62 specimen PCGS-25247934 is on Heritage with photos now as part of the "Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins". It looks nice!
Any more thoughts on this piece @wondercoin ?
https://coins.ha.com/itm/philippines/usa-administration-gold-manila-mint-opening-medallic-wilson-dollar-1920-m-ms62-pcgs-/p/3137-86041.s
Zoins: I love the PCGS-MS62 gold example being auctioned off by Heritage at their December, 2026 Hong Kong auction. It was an honor to sell off all (4) of JHF’’s gold Wilson Medal specimens culminating with the sale of this finest known MS62 example. Another exciting event in the sale comes with the auction of this Wilson Matte Proof Presentation Dollar:
“Unique Matte Proof Presentation Wilson Dollar
USA Administration bronze Matte Proof "Manila Mint Opening Presentation" Medallic Wilson Dollar 1920-M PR65 PCGS, Manila mint, cf. KM-X11a (for type), cf. HK-450 (same). By George T. Morgan. An absolute stunner within the highly collectible and fleeting "Wilson" Dollar series, whose status in Matte Proof remains unchallenged and likely stands as a unique specimen that should interest all collectors of Philippines numismatics. While we handle the standard production issues in bronze with relative frequency, none compare in quality to the present example, distinguished by overall matte appearances and all you would expect of a Proof striking: squared rims and needle-sharp devices that lend an ample depth to the composition. Impressive to say the least, as a fully Gem preservation further elevates this into trophy territory. One collector purports this to be the very specimen that Speaker Osmeña of the House of Representatives struck in celebration to commemorate the medals at the opening ceremony on July 15, 1920. Regardless of this, the current representative is decidedly worthy of considerable attention from only the most serious of collectors hoping to add a unique piece of Filipino history to their cabinets.
The 1920 Wilson dollars were struck to commemorate the opening of the Manila Mint on July 6, 1920, the first and only time the U.S. government has established a branch mint outside of the Continental United States. These coins or, more properly, medals, were never given legal tender status, but many of the pieces did circulate in the Philippine economy before World War II. They are usually collected with the So-Called dollar series. The mintage was limited to 3,700 pieces in copper (HK-450), 2,200 examples in silver (HK-449), and five to ten specimens struck in gold (HK-1031). The silver medals were sold for $1 and the copper examples were offered at $.50 per piece. The gold specimens were presented to VIP's, including President Woodrow Wilson. A number of unsold specimens were dumped into the Pacific Ocean in 1942, to prevent their seizure by Japanese invaders.
Ex. Stack's Bowers Auction (December 1996, Lot 2929)
From the Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins, Part XIV
Metal: Bronze
Diameter: 39mm“
There are some incredible Philippine (USPI) coins being auctioned off in the upcoming December, 2026 Heritage Hong Kong sale (including a 1903-S 50C (known mintage of 2-3 coins)!
Wondercoin.
Thanks for the updates @wondercoin !
The upcoming Wilson Dollars from JHF are amazing!
Bronze Matte Proof - PCGS PR65 - unique
Bronze - PCGS MS63RB - pop 9/2
Copper - PCGS MS63RB - pop 9/2
Silver - PCGS MS65 - pop 7/1
For completeness, we shouldn’t forget the fifth JHF Wilson Dollar (grading Gem) that will be appearing in that upcoming December Heritage event:
“Highly Original Gem Silver Wilson Dollar
USA Administration silver "Manila Mint Opening" Medallic Wilson Dollar 1920-M MS65 PCGS, Manila mint, HK-449, KM-X11. An issue struck during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson and issued for the opening of the Philippines mint in Manila. Few examples of this Medallic Dollar are offered in such a high state of preservation. Graded Gem Mint State, this piece rises above the concentration of MS64 examples and approaches the top of the certified population. Its surfaces display brilliance beneath mottled cabinet toning. Only a single example ranks finer, making this likely the finest that will come to market for some time.
From the Mahal Collection of Spanish and US Philippines Coins, Part XIV
Metal: Silver
Diameter: 38.00mm
Mintage: 2,200”
I am expected to be in Hong Kong for most of December, 2026 if any board members are planning to attend this watershed (auction) event or the 17th Hong Kong International Numismatic Fair (HKINF) that will also take place around the same time.
Coin Show Details:
• Dates: 8–10 December 2026 (Main Exhibition); pre-registration runs 3–7 December 2026 hong kong international numismatic fair
• Venue: Crystal Ballroom, Holiday Inn Golden Mile, 50 Nathan Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong.
• Hours:
• Main exhibition opens daily at 08:00 (exhibitor set-up 08:00–10:00)
• Hall closes at 19:00 on 8–9 December and 18:00 on 10 December 2026 hong kong international numismatic fair
• Highlights: Asia’s premier numismatic event featuring rare coins, banknotes, and historical currency with a strong focus on Chinese and East Asian numismatics, alongside official auctions.
Feel free to reach out to me if you will be attending either this auction or the coin show.
Wondercoin.
Good to note! Silver added above!