Eisenhower Dollar Prototype Listing

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19Lyds
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edited September 20, 2026 10:14AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Well, the first discovered IKE Prototype Coin is up or auction again on Great Collections.
I'm curious to see what the final hammer price will be on Oct 18, 2026.
It was first sold at a Heritage Auction on Jan 14, 2022

I find it hard to believe that it's been 18 years since I came across this coin at a Long Beach Show. Probably because I remember it like it was yesterday.

https://greatcollections.com/Coin/2233773/1971-S-Eisenhower-Dollar-Silver-J-2147-PrototypeDiscovery-Coin-PCGS-SP-67-CAC-Green

I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



The name is LEE!

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  • 19Lyds
    19Lyds Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭
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    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Talk about "moon money".

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  • TomB
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    I remember when you posted about this coin the first time and also find it amazing it was nearly two decades ago.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • Survivor50
    Survivor50 Posts: 219 ✭✭✭
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    What was the price realized at the original Heritage auction? Is it possible there are additional examples to the three known? @19Lyds is there a published story with additional information of your original discovery? I would be interested in what led you to discovering this coin.

  • Floridafacelifter
    Floridafacelifter Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I lot viewed the coin at Heritage and took photos of the ginormous holder

    Is this the same coin as the OP posted which is currently in the GC auction? (Because the one I photographed says Discovery Coin but is in a different holder with a different cert #)

  • TomB
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    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • dunkleosteus430
    dunkleosteus430 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Such a beautiful coin with a great story behind it, too. I find it just as if not more interesting than several of the "giants" of the hobby that frequently sell for hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars despite often being significantly more common. Unfortunately there will always be people that disagree just because it's an Ike, though.

    I collect world proof sets, coins featuring composers, mid-20th century U.S. proof coins, U.S. type coins, and whatever else I want.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    from $3 to six figures. oh the inflation! j/k

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  • Byers
    Byers Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TomB said:
    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Same coin

    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • RedRocket
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    @Byers said:

    @TomB said:
    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Same coin

    @Byers Please tell us more about this if you have any insider information regarding this coin.
    A truly fascinating dollar.

  • FlyingAl
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    Arguably the greatest cherrypick of all time. Incredible coin.

  • Byers
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    @RedRocket said:

    @Byers said:

    @TomB said:
    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Same coin

    @Byers Please tell us more about this if you have any insider information regarding this coin.
    A truly fascinating dollar.

    No insider information.

    I helped promote the sale when Heritage auctioned it. And studied it.

    It’s the same coin. Subtle marks and spots match up.

    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thank you.
    I will refer to the older Heritage description.

  • Cuprinkor
    Cuprinkor Posts: 377 ✭✭✭
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    Was the coin in question originally from a blue Ike envelope (and plio plastic)?

  • Floridafacelifter
    Floridafacelifter Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I find it hard to believe that it's been 18 years since I came across this coin at a Long Beach Show. Probably because I remember it like it was yesterday

    In those 18 years how many Ike’s do you figure you have searched looking for another one?

    My friend @FlyingAl and I have independently found several 1921 Satin Peace $ proofs in business strike holders and got them certified as proof but I’ve looked at a LOT of 1921 Peace Dollars

  • 19Lyds
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    @Survivor50 said:
    What was the price realized at the original Heritage auction? Is it possible there are additional examples to the three known? @19Lyds is there a published story with additional information of your original discovery? I would be interested in what led you to discovering this coin.

    The Original Heritage Price was $264,000.
    Here a little more on the discovery: https://coinweek.com/found-in-a-tube-of-ordinary-ikes-264000-eisenhower-prototype-returns-to-auction/

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds
    19Lyds Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Survivor50 said:
    What was the price realized at the original Heritage auction? Is it possible there are additional examples to the three known? @19Lyds is there a published story with additional information of your original discovery? I would be interested in what led you to discovering this coin.

    As for what led me to discovery the coin?
    Simple. I was looking for a 1971-S Uncirculated 40% Silver IKE with a Type 2 Reverse.
    As you may or may not known the Type 2 reverse (as appears on the 71-S Proof Coin, does not have island raised above the surface of the coin but instead have merely the outlines of 3 Islands off the coast if a Florida that is shaped like a tornado.
    Given my lack of louping expertise, I could see that this coin was of a very high grade and I thought I'd scored. Well getting under a stero scope showed a reverse I'd never seen before.
    It was total luck.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds
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    @TomB said:
    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Yes Tom, it is the same coin.

    David Frohman, who bought the coin from me, invested a lot of money in getting the coin conserved because despite my numerous regrade submissions (there were at least 3) I could not get the coin above a 65+. Gordon Wrubel indicated that the coin had a haze on it which was what limited the grade.
    I did not have the capital to pay for conservation which, IIRC, included a certain percentage of the coins value including the grading fees.
    BTW, I'd had the coin up for sale to a well known IKE Collector for $22,500 but he had no interest. I sold it to David, after we butted heads several times, for way less than the coins hammer price at Heritage.

    As of today, the bidding is at $100,000

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds
    19Lyds Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Byers said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Byers said:

    @TomB said:
    I think it's the same coin and now has a Judd number added to the cert. It was also probably sent in for regrade when the Judd number was added.

    Same coin

    @Byers Please tell us more about this if you have any insider information regarding this coin.
    A truly fascinating dollar.

    No insider information.

    I helped promote the sale when Heritage auctioned it. And studied it.

    It’s the same coin. Subtle marks and spots match up.

    Thank You Mike.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds
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    @Cuprinkor said:
    Was the coin in question originally from a blue Ike envelope (and plio plastic)?

    Speculation says yes.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds
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    @Floridafacelifter said:

    I find it hard to believe that it's been 18 years since I came across this coin at a Long Beach Show. Probably because I remember it like it was yesterday

    In those 18 years how many Ike’s do you figure you have searched looking for another one?

    My friend @FlyingAl and I have independently found several 1921 Satin Peace $ proofs in business strike holders and got them certified as proof but I’ve looked at a LOT of 1921 Peace Dollars

    Oh Man! You just had to ask that question!

    Sadly I missed an auction on ebay that clearly showed the Prototype reverse but somebody else picked it up for only a couple of hundred.
    That failue on my part, also gets added to the eBay Auction of the 1971-S Proof coin listed on ebay that had a Type 1 reverse! Andy O. picked that one up for a couple of hundred as well.

    Now, One needs to ask, "Why have important coins such as this gone unseen or unidentified for nearly 5 or 6 decades?"
    The answer is simple.
    The US Mint advertised the Eisenhower Dollar as a Silver Dollar even though the coins made for the public were CnClad. No Matter.
    For Collectors of Proofs and Uncirculated coin, it was a different story. The 40% Silver Uncirculated coin sold for $3.00. The 40% Silver Proof Coin sold for $10.
    Many Dealers jumped on that Proof coin and literally lost their butts. Come to think of it even in 1980 when Silver Jumped to $50 and ounce, the coins STILL weren't worth $10 plus shipping in Silver Content.
    As such interest quickly waned in the coin between 1971 and 1972 because there wasn't any money to be made. Couple that with a low mintage on the 1973-S 40% Silver Proof and dealers lost even more money. While the coin sold from the mint for $10 prices soared to over $250 on the after market because of that low mintage. That one fell off the interest scale when the BiCentennial Coins came out and literally FLOODED the Market with 40% Silver Unc and Proof coin sets. The US Mint made so many of them that they were still selling then at the turn of the century. (1998-1999 I think)

    So, anyway, the Coin was no Peace Dollar and it sure as heck wasn't a Silver Dollar. The general public liked them but it was rare to ever encounter them in the wild because a Dollar Coin has never, ever been widely used in circulating coinage. The reason behind that is the Paper Buck. Had the Treasury Department ended the Paper buck then the Eisenhower Dollar would have been widely circulated.
    As it sits right now, today, there are mint sewn bags of IKEs of all years and mints, sitting in Federal Reserve Vaults just gathering dust. Like Half Dollars, Retail Outlets have no interest in keeping them around or even using them. When somebody spends them, they either end up in somebody's dresser drawer or they get sent back to the bank who then returns them to the Federal Reserve bank when they accumulate enough.

    Remember, when these coins were 1st Issued, not a whole lot of people could afford to buy and keep a $20 roll of coins much less order a $1,000 bag from the bank. So, the coin was discontinued in 1978 and replaced with yet another failure the Susan B Anthony until 1981 when that one was discontinued.

    All Because the US Treasury, in their infinite stupidity and a strong coin machine lobby, refused to get rid of the Paper Dollar!

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • bronze6827
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    Speaking of Andy O....

    (Boy, have things changed here since I last posted here)

    I, too, saw that the coin was up for auction, and I fondly remembered when Lee brought the coin to us for examination. I remember Rob being very intrigued by it, as we all were. I can't say (honestly), that any of us were freaking out, drop-dead over-the-moon excited about its monetary value, but more of a deep wonderment of how and where it came from; it sure had our attention. Many devices are crisper than regular production, with other features more muted. To be sure, it's a neat coin, and a heck of a find. Only someone with deep knowledge of Ikes was going to pick up on it in the wild.

    Rob spent a lot of time analyzing it and decided it would be a good idea to spread the word about the coin. He went so far as to do a two-sided leaflet about the coin, in tear-off tablet form. I still have a few. Lee probably remembers (and probably still has some).

    Personally, I think this coin and its cousins are of far more interest than something like the 76 No-S proof, for example. Such coins don't turn my crank - I see basically no interest in hunting coins like that by the masses because it's one of a kind. Folks mentally recognize it as fruitless and move on, resigned to the likelihood that only those with deep pockets will own such coins.

    The prototypes are more than one, as we know (albeit single digits thus far). I think what drives the Ike prototype interest is the fact that they were found in the wild by average collectors. Same with the 71-S FS-801 and the 71-S Type 1 reverse Ikes, as Lee mentioned - they are out there, picked up by average collectors with some basic knowledge. More numerous than prototypes, but still barely in double digits.

    And that's the draw: being more than just one in existence (but not a "gazillion") fuels collectors' belief that they can find one with enough searching; they will have landed a rarity on their own. To me, that's one of the greatest aspects of coin collecting - the thrill of the hunt. I mean, in the end, that's the root of why we all engage in this hobby, isn't it...?

    To this day, I still average at least one person a month contacting us at the Ike Group claiming they've got a prototype (spoiler alert: none of them ever are). People are searching.

    Excited to see where this one lands at auction. What a privilege to have looked it over and been involved with the discovery years ago.

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