@alaura22 said:
It really doesn't matter anymore, I will not be using ebay until they change it
What really gets me is how some of these people will defend ebay to the end even if it's a bad idea
I'm done
We tried to help.
Sometimes, it's not "good" or "bad", it's just "different".
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@alaura22 said:
Ok, so I just did a search
1979-P Nickel PCGS MS-66 and I got 61 matches which DON'T Match my search
here
doing -P will exclude listings with P if you leave off the "-" in the search that will help
and... now that search has jogged my memory, i've encountered this problem looking for counterfeits 1928 peace dollar turns up non-1928 coins. this should not be required, but put everything in quotes and it will be less likely to return junk.... except the useless "Sponsored" junk
@MsMorrisine said:
you shouldn't have to use "Nickel" to keep from getting dimes. this ain't right
You don't, if you use "Jefferson". But you can't just say "1979" and exclude anything.
You could also restrict the category, of course, if you like. Then you don't need either "Jefferson" or "nickel". You are, however, at the mercy of the seller's listing quality.
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Again, if your search is set to "any" of the words, it won't narrow the search enough. Use quotation marks or change the search settings to "all" or "exact"
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I used to enjoy searching for PO1 PCGS Ikes and Kennedys for PCGS Lowball Registries, and also searching for AU Eisenhower's for my NGC and PCGS Everyman Registries. Now that search is difficult.
The more searches I tried, the more this seemed like something beyond simply dumbing down the interface. I had some time to research the updates, and I don’t see “breaking the search filters” listed in any development blog posts. Despite what some of you may think, I don’t believe this was an enhancement or even intentional on eBay’s part. It smells of a poorly executed migration and update. I believe they’ll fix the filters at some point. After all, the stated purpose was to “replace free-text condition descriptions and introduce consistent inputs across all listing flows”.
@DarkSideVAMs said:
The more searches I tried, the more this seemed like something beyond simply dumbing down the interface. I had some time to research the updates, and I don’t see “breaking the search filters” listed in any development blog posts. Despite what some of you may think, I don’t believe this was an enhancement or even intentional on eBay’s part. It smells of a poorly executed migration and update. I believe they’ll fix the filters at some point. After all, the stated purpose was to “replace free-text condition descriptions and introduce consistent inputs across all listing flows”.
they are so out of touch that they think condition settings will be used reliably?
"sell one like this" yields some lazy listing creations from unrelated listings.
this goes way back when the thing to do was to search outside just the specific category to find misplaced items. they are apparently so out of touch that they think things aren't still misplaced?
no matter what, it will always be best to search using "free text"
1) In some of the fields, people will put literally hundreds of related unrelated words to get their items to show up. It might list all coin denominations, all coin grades, all coin names, all grading companies, on and on. I normally just x those sellers out of my searches in the advance search tab.
2) White listing. Similar to above, but in the main description, or sometime elsewhere, hundreds of words in a white font. You don't see the words but your search finds them an you get peeeved. Short of periodically having a color reset on the computer to make them stand out, or copying seeminly blank areas, pasting them into Word and changing font color, it is hard to pick up. Again, I just block those people in my searches.
Here is one to the worst key word spammers. I know it is not coins, but I was just looking for a shock absorber for a 1968 Fairlane. With all these words, he shows up on almost anything.
Imagine if all of these were in white font. You would no idea what is going on, and blame ebay for a jacked up search engine.
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@mustangmanbob
Now now, lets not be so picky
Some of the people here will say that YOU just didn't do the search correctly! You didn't have quotes, dashes, comers, capital letters, periods, and on and on and on.......
It's all YOUR fault that you got those results
PLUS
Were you standing on one leg with one hand behind your back?
No wonder you didn't get the correct results Shame on you...........
@alaura22 said: @mustangmanbob
Now now, lets not be so picky
Some of the people here will say that YOU just didn't do the search correctly! You didn't have quotes, dashes, comers, capital letters, periods, and on and on and on.......
It's all YOUR fault that you got those results
PLUS
Were you standing on one leg with one hand behind your back?
No wonder you didn't get the correct results Shame on you...........
I think you misunderstood what he's saying.
What he's telling you is that NO FILTER would keep that listing from showing up.
Further, he's saying that YOU would blame ebay search when it did show up.
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@TrickleCharge said:
Sometimes I want to see the prices of a particular date coin that is slabbed by any of the main TPGS in all grades. You could search that date and check the filter boxes for all 5 of the grading companies. Now you would have to run 5 separate searches while trying to remember the prices for each.
I hope removing the filters isn't a permanent change.
This is true, but it also assumes that the item specifics were correctly indicated. You would never see a coin, for example, if you filtered for all 5 grading services and the seller hadn't checked one. This is true even if it said PCGS in the title.
I'm sure some do fall through the cracks like that. You could also have a seller enter the incorrect date which would fail to hit on a search or filter. Once I was just scrolling through a category and noticed a semi key date coin by the picture. For whatever reason the listing description and title mentioned a more common date. Seven day auction and I was the only bidder. Nothing is perfect, but the filters can be easier than having to run multiple separate searches.
Agreed. But you can also just add it to the search. You can also do an advanced search that includes all 5 TPG's simultaneously and don't need to do 5 separate searches. So, you really don't need the filter to accomplish the same thing.
If, for example, I simply type in "1964 Kennedy Half Dollar 67 + NGC or PCGS or ANACS", I get results that includes any of those 3 holders.
You'll also note that it also gives me the option of adding specific filters for the TPGS.
Or you can do as Spud suggested and put less information and then choose the filter from the horizontal scroll.
I appreciate the help, but I can't seem to get the "or" search to work that way. If I search "1865 pcgs" I get 320 results in the U.S. Coins category. If I search "1865 pcgs or ngc", I get only one result. I am in the app so not sure if that makes a difference.
I do see the bar now that Spud mentions, but it is only allowing me to pick one service.
Not sure. I didn't try it in the app. I'll try now
Any luck figuring this out? I am still getting 327 results searching "1865 pcgs" and only a small fraction of that searching "1865 pcgs or ngc".
@TrickleCharge said:
Sometimes I want to see the prices of a particular date coin that is slabbed by any of the main TPGS in all grades. You could search that date and check the filter boxes for all 5 of the grading companies. Now you would have to run 5 separate searches while trying to remember the prices for each.
I hope removing the filters isn't a permanent change.
This is true, but it also assumes that the item specifics were correctly indicated. You would never see a coin, for example, if you filtered for all 5 grading services and the seller hadn't checked one. This is true even if it said PCGS in the title.
I'm sure some do fall through the cracks like that. You could also have a seller enter the incorrect date which would fail to hit on a search or filter. Once I was just scrolling through a category and noticed a semi key date coin by the picture. For whatever reason the listing description and title mentioned a more common date. Seven day auction and I was the only bidder. Nothing is perfect, but the filters can be easier than having to run multiple separate searches.
Agreed. But you can also just add it to the search. You can also do an advanced search that includes all 5 TPG's simultaneously and don't need to do 5 separate searches. So, you really don't need the filter to accomplish the same thing.
If, for example, I simply type in "1964 Kennedy Half Dollar 67 + NGC or PCGS or ANACS", I get results that includes any of those 3 holders.
You'll also note that it also gives me the option of adding specific filters for the TPGS.
Or you can do as Spud suggested and put less information and then choose the filter from the horizontal scroll.
I appreciate the help, but I can't seem to get the "or" search to work that way. If I search "1865 pcgs" I get 320 results in the U.S. Coins category. If I search "1865 pcgs or ngc", I get only one result. I am in the app so not sure if that makes a difference.
I do see the bar now that Spud mentions, but it is only allowing me to pick one service.
Not sure. I didn't try it in the app. I'll try now
Any luck figuring this out? I am still getting 327 results searching "1865 pcgs" and only a small fraction of that searching "1865 pcgs or ngc".
The "or" doesn't seem to work in the app correctly. It may be the default setting of the keyword search. I don't see a way to adjust it like you canon the website.
Edited: figured it out, with the help of a Google search. "OR" doesn't work in the app, but you can use parentheses. Use: "1865" + (pcgs, ngc). That gives you 1865 coins from both services, 642 total hits.
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@TrickleCharge said:
Sometimes I want to see the prices of a particular date coin that is slabbed by any of the main TPGS in all grades. You could search that date and check the filter boxes for all 5 of the grading companies. Now you would have to run 5 separate searches while trying to remember the prices for each.
I hope removing the filters isn't a permanent change.
This is true, but it also assumes that the item specifics were correctly indicated. You would never see a coin, for example, if you filtered for all 5 grading services and the seller hadn't checked one. This is true even if it said PCGS in the title.
I'm sure some do fall through the cracks like that. You could also have a seller enter the incorrect date which would fail to hit on a search or filter. Once I was just scrolling through a category and noticed a semi key date coin by the picture. For whatever reason the listing description and title mentioned a more common date. Seven day auction and I was the only bidder. Nothing is perfect, but the filters can be easier than having to run multiple separate searches.
Agreed. But you can also just add it to the search. You can also do an advanced search that includes all 5 TPG's simultaneously and don't need to do 5 separate searches. So, you really don't need the filter to accomplish the same thing.
If, for example, I simply type in "1964 Kennedy Half Dollar 67 + NGC or PCGS or ANACS", I get results that includes any of those 3 holders.
You'll also note that it also gives me the option of adding specific filters for the TPGS.
Or you can do as Spud suggested and put less information and then choose the filter from the horizontal scroll.
I appreciate the help, but I can't seem to get the "or" search to work that way. If I search "1865 pcgs" I get 320 results in the U.S. Coins category. If I search "1865 pcgs or ngc", I get only one result. I am in the app so not sure if that makes a difference.
I do see the bar now that Spud mentions, but it is only allowing me to pick one service.
Not sure. I didn't try it in the app. I'll try now
Any luck figuring this out? I am still getting 327 results searching "1865 pcgs" and only a small fraction of that searching "1865 pcgs or ngc".
The "or" doesn't seem to work in the app correctly. It may be the default setting of the keyword search. I don't see a way to adjust it like you canon the website.
Edited: figured it out, with the help of a Google search. "OR" doesn't work in the app, but you can use parentheses. Use: "1865" + (pcgs, ngc). That gives you 1865 coins from both services, 642 total hits.
Awesome. Thank you, I never would have guessed to try it that way.
@TrickleCharge said:
Sometimes I want to see the prices of a particular date coin that is slabbed by any of the main TPGS in all grades. You could search that date and check the filter boxes for all 5 of the grading companies. Now you would have to run 5 separate searches while trying to remember the prices for each.
I hope removing the filters isn't a permanent change.
This is true, but it also assumes that the item specifics were correctly indicated. You would never see a coin, for example, if you filtered for all 5 grading services and the seller hadn't checked one. This is true even if it said PCGS in the title.
I'm sure some do fall through the cracks like that. You could also have a seller enter the incorrect date which would fail to hit on a search or filter. Once I was just scrolling through a category and noticed a semi key date coin by the picture. For whatever reason the listing description and title mentioned a more common date. Seven day auction and I was the only bidder. Nothing is perfect, but the filters can be easier than having to run multiple separate searches.
Agreed. But you can also just add it to the search. You can also do an advanced search that includes all 5 TPG's simultaneously and don't need to do 5 separate searches. So, you really don't need the filter to accomplish the same thing.
If, for example, I simply type in "1964 Kennedy Half Dollar 67 + NGC or PCGS or ANACS", I get results that includes any of those 3 holders.
You'll also note that it also gives me the option of adding specific filters for the TPGS.
Or you can do as Spud suggested and put less information and then choose the filter from the horizontal scroll.
I appreciate the help, but I can't seem to get the "or" search to work that way. If I search "1865 pcgs" I get 320 results in the U.S. Coins category. If I search "1865 pcgs or ngc", I get only one result. I am in the app so not sure if that makes a difference.
I do see the bar now that Spud mentions, but it is only allowing me to pick one service.
Not sure. I didn't try it in the app. I'll try now
Any luck figuring this out? I am still getting 327 results searching "1865 pcgs" and only a small fraction of that searching "1865 pcgs or ngc".
The "or" doesn't seem to work in the app correctly. It may be the default setting of the keyword search. I don't see a way to adjust it like you canon the website.
Edited: figured it out, with the help of a Google search. "OR" doesn't work in the app, but you can use parentheses. Use: "1865" + (pcgs, ngc). That gives you 1865 coins from both services, 642 total hits.
Awesome. Thank you, I never would have guessed to try it that way.
That should also work for the person who wanted to search multiple grades. Just do (45, 50, 53, 55) or whatever.
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@MasonG said:
I picked five random coins I have for sale on eBay and searched for them, just to see what happens.
eBay's search function found them.
it's finding items that fit but returning items that don't too. it shouldn't be where everything needs to be in quotes to return the proper list of items.
@MsMorrisine said:
it shouldn't be where everything needs to be in quotes to return the proper list of items.
An explanation has been provided that narrows the results down to the "proper list of items".
And yet, the complaints continue.
you mean putting 1979 nickel ms 66 returning dimes is my fault?
Yes, if you don't use quotation marks
If it's not doing an all word match, it will return just 1979 items or just nickels or just 66. If you insist that "nickel" be present with the quotation marks, it won't return anything that doesn't have the word.
But the "best match" sort should put the dimes on the bottom. Lol.
I also don't see how having an NGC filter would solve the dime problem. You can mostly solve the dime problem using the category filter.
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Well, sure. eBay should just know what I'm searching for.
As soon as the cognitive implants are available this problem will go away...welll... other than your own scattered thoughts.
I managed to get exactly the results I wanted on both the web and in the app. And I even posted it for others to be able to reproduce. And yet, we just need the NGC button back, even though that doesn't filter out quarters.
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@MsMorrisine said:
is it the expected result or not?
I would expect the results to be consistent with how eBay says they provide those results. Since it's their search tool, it's going to work the way they want it to. Their "How to use search" webpage has an overview explanation what they're doing. You might consider checking it out. Spoiler alert: If you're expecting that this search:
1979 nickel ms 66
will result in a list of items that match all four search terms, you're going to be disappointed. ChatGPT says:
eBay tells us:
-Best Match is the default ranking system.
-Relevance to search terms matters.
-Popularity, price, browsing history, location and other factors matter.
-Listing completeness and item specifics matter.
-Search can include related results.
-Product Research is substantially more exact.
-eBay regularly changes its Best Match algorithm.
eBay does NOT publicly tell us:
-the exact matching algorithm
-the numerical relevance score
-the weighting of 1979 versus nickel versus MS 66
-exactly when a missing term causes a listing to be excluded
-the precise query-expansion rules
-whether a particular synonym is generated algorithmically or manually
-the exact role of title vs. item specifics for each query
-the threshold at which eBay decides to broaden a query
edited to add... more from ChatGPT:
If you're trying to understand why changing one word in an eBay search can dramatically change the results, Boolean logic alone is not a sufficient model. eBay's search is capable of ranking and interpreting results rather than merely retrieving listings that satisfy literal conditions.
What eBay explicitly acknowledges: Best Match considers relevance to the search, popularity, price, listing quality/completeness, listing terms, seller track record, and—according to eBay's buyer-facing help—things such as browsing history and item location.
A Boolean search is essentially rule-based filtering. You tell the search engine exactly what conditions must be met. eBay's search is much more like a ranking system.
it wasn't required to use quotes in the past to keep a quarter out of a nickel search. if this is a new effort then it is a failur.
however, to alaura, put quotes on each word should do it (for now) the way to do an "or" is with parenthesis
("pcgs, "ngc") will leave out anacs and cacg and the third worlders
we should not have to use quotes, and we did not in the past. search is now a broken mess.
@MsMorrisine said:
it wasn't required to use quotes in the past to keep a quarter out of a nickel search. if this is a new effort then it is a failur.
eBay changes things- everybody knows this. There's lots of things I would have preferred that eBay didn't "improve", but they don't ask me when they make changes. Either accept that's so or complain about it- your choice.
@MsMorrisine said:
it wasn't required to use quotes in the past to keep a quarter out of a nickel search. if this is a new effort then it is a failur.
however, to alaura, put quotes on each word should do it (for now) the way to do an "or" is with parenthesis
("pcgs, "ngc") will leave out anacs and cacg and the third worlders
we should not have to use quotes, and we did not in the past. search is now a broken mess.
Basic search has not changed. The filters were the only thing that I see as different. The basic search has always had those options and behaved that way. That's the way all search works.
Here's a Google search using 1979 nickel MS 66.
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@MsMorrisine said:
it wasn't required to use quotes in the past to keep a quarter out of a nickel search. if this is a new effort then it is a failur.
eBay changes things- everybody knows this. There's lots of things I would have preferred that eBay didn't "improve", but they don't ask me when they make changes. Either accept that's so or complain about it- your choice.
The only thing that I see that's different is the filter options. The search itself always had those same options.
Further, you could still use the category filter to limit the search to the nickels category.
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When you search for an item on eBay, the listings in your search results are ranked by our Best Match algorithm. The algorithm is designed to show you the listings that most closely match what you're looking for.
Listings are ranked based on a variety of factors, including:
-how closely the listing matches your search terms
-how popular the item is
-the price of the item
-your browsing history
-the item's location
Other factors such as the seller's track record on eBay, how complete the listing is, and the number of listings matching your query, are also taken into account. Promoted listings that match your search query and interests will also appear higher in search results.
That sounds suspiciously similar to ChatGPT's interpretation:
eBay tells us:
-Best Match is the default ranking system.
-Relevance to search terms matters.
-Popularity, price, browsing history, location and other factors matter.
-Listing completeness and item specifics matter.
-Search can include related results.
-Product Research is substantially more exact.
-eBay regularly changes its Best Match algorithm.
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It is very simple, it's just different.
And this was ALWAYS the case, even with the filters. The filters were at the mercy of how a seller listed a coin.
Don't feel badly, I have a hard time getting my students to do more specific searches also.
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We tried to help.
Sometimes, it's not "good" or "bad", it's just "different".
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Two of them are Denver issues, so some people will still say the search is broken. If you add "-d" at the end of your search...
"1979" "jefferson" "PCGS" "66" -d
You only get the two P mint coins.
.
doing -P will exclude listings with P if you leave off the "-" in the search that will help
and... now that search has jogged my memory, i've encountered this problem looking for counterfeits 1928 peace dollar turns up non-1928 coins. this should not be required, but put everything in quotes and it will be less likely to return junk.... except the useless "Sponsored" junk
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw="1979"+-d+-s+"Nickel"+"PCGS"+"MS"+"66"&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=1979-P+Nickel+PCGS+MS-66&_osacat=0
you shouldn't have to use "Nickel" to keep from getting dimes. this ain't right
I wasn't trying to restrict it to P. But, yes, exclusions also work. With only 4 coins, I didn't feel the need to exclude anything. Lol
You can also use Google search if you don't like ebay search.
There are ways. But everyone hates change.
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You don't, if you use "Jefferson". But you can't just say "1979" and exclude anything.
You could also restrict the category, of course, if you like. Then you don't need either "Jefferson" or "nickel". You are, however, at the mercy of the seller's listing quality.
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searched 1979 Nickel PCGS MS 66 attempt #1 - results: 89 listings
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=1979+Nickel+PCGS+MS+66&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw="1979"+-d+-s+"Nickel"+"PCGS"+"MS"+"66"&_osacat=0
searched "1979" "Nickel" "PCGS" "MS" "66" (quotes around everything) attempt #2 - results: 8 listings
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw="1979"+"Nickel"+"PCGS"+"MS"+"66"&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=1979+Nickel+PCGS+MS+66&_osacat=0
Again, if your search is set to "any" of the words, it won't narrow the search enough. Use quotation marks or change the search settings to "all" or "exact"
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I used to enjoy searching for PO1 PCGS Ikes and Kennedys for PCGS Lowball Registries, and also searching for AU Eisenhower's for my NGC and PCGS Everyman Registries. Now that search is difficult.
The more searches I tried, the more this seemed like something beyond simply dumbing down the interface. I had some time to research the updates, and I don’t see “breaking the search filters” listed in any development blog posts. Despite what some of you may think, I don’t believe this was an enhancement or even intentional on eBay’s part. It smells of a poorly executed migration and update. I believe they’ll fix the filters at some point. After all, the stated purpose was to “replace free-text condition descriptions and introduce consistent inputs across all listing flows”.
https://developer.ebay.com/updates/blog/coins-condition-requirements
itwould be funny if it weren't so sad
they are so out of touch that they think condition settings will be used reliably?
"sell one like this" yields some lazy listing creations from unrelated listings.
this goes way back when the thing to do was to search outside just the specific category to find misplaced items. they are apparently so out of touch that they think things aren't still misplaced?
no matter what, it will always be best to search using "free text"
2 other problems you might check.
1) In some of the fields, people will put literally hundreds of related unrelated words to get their items to show up. It might list all coin denominations, all coin grades, all coin names, all grading companies, on and on. I normally just x those sellers out of my searches in the advance search tab.
2) White listing. Similar to above, but in the main description, or sometime elsewhere, hundreds of words in a white font. You don't see the words but your search finds them an you get peeeved. Short of periodically having a color reset on the computer to make them stand out, or copying seeminly blank areas, pasting them into Word and changing font color, it is hard to pick up. Again, I just block those people in my searches.
Here is one to the worst key word spammers. I know it is not coins, but I was just looking for a shock absorber for a 1968 Fairlane. With all these words, he shows up on almost anything.
Imagine if all of these were in white font. You would no idea what is going on, and blame ebay for a jacked up search engine.
Manufacturer Part Number
1910,1911,1912,1913,1914,1915,1916,1917,1918,1919,, 1920,1921,1922,1923,1924,1925,1926,1927,1928,1929, 1930,1931,1932,1933,1934,1935,1936,1937,1938,1939,, 1940,1941,1942,1943,1944,1945,1946,1947,1948,1949,, 1950,1951,1952,1953,1954,1955,1956,1957,1958,1959,, 1960,1961,1962,1963,1964,1965,1966,1967,1968,1969, 1970,1971,1972,1973,1974,1975,1976,1977,1978,1979, 2WD, 4WD, Square Body, Pilot House, OBS, Cab,, 3/4, 1, Ton, Crew, Standard, Short, Long, Box ,, Bomba, Lowrider, Truck, Fleetside, Stepside, 1/2,, Bucket, Park, Blinker, Turn Signal, Antenna, Rim, Car, Coupe, Sedan, Convertible, Roadster, Delivery, Chrome, Die-Cast, Lamp, Light, Bezel, Housing,, Grille, Quarter, Sheet Metal Panel, Stainless,, Hood, Fender, Door, Trunk, Deck, Lid, Bumper,Grill, Hubcap, Wheel Cover, White Wall, Bias Ply, Jack, Rally, 5, 6, 8, Lug, Mag, Magnesium, Spoke, Wire, Station Wagon, Hardtop, Sedanette, Rag Top, Sled,, Steel Wheel, Riveted, Artillery, 14", 15", 16", Windshield, Glass, Vent, Cowl, Molding, Trim
Material
Igniter Juice Power Brakes Jug Long Short Block, Locker Lakes Leadsled Knock-Off Louvers Lowboy, Nail Head Mouse Pancaked Post Pony Car, Pro Street Puffer RPM Restored Rockcrusher Rod, Rocket Roll Pan Running Board Scallop Scoop Shave, Section Sleeper Slingshot Slushbox Smoothy, Split Window Steelies Stovebolt TPI Survivor, Track T Tranny Tri Five Tri-Power Tubbed Tuck Roll, Turnkey Victoria Vicky Vintage VIN, owboy Mag Matching Numbers Merc Moons Mopar, service lamps warning holder head tail kit tool
Superseded Part Number
221 239 255 337 215 223 262 Flathead, 348 409 302 402 L65 L78 L72 L88 ZL1 LS6 331 352, 392 273 315 318 325 340 383 440 426 Hemi Mopar, AMC Buick Cadillac Chevrolet Chrysler Dodge Ford, Axle, Posi, Carrier, Open, Rear End, Exhaust, Pipe, Durant Elgin Franklin Gardner LaSalle Paige, Fargo Hudson Auburn Cord Graham Hupmobile Nash, Fender Skirts Grille Visor Bumper Guard Wing, Ignition, Cap, Points, Brush Set, Bracket, Choke, L6 Inline Project Straight 8 Cylinder Assembly, Lafayette Lincoln Mercury Olds Oldsmobile Chevy, Old School Pre-War Touring Open Closed Cab, Packard Pierce Arrow Pontiac REO Studebaker Star, Restoration Hardware Rebuild Poly Restore, Terraplane Henry J Rambler Chandler Dodge Brothers, Traditional Period Correct AACA Car Club Cruise, Vintage Original Patina Rat Rod Hot Rod Driver, Vintage, Accessory, RPO, Yenko, COPO, Washer Jar, Voltage Regulator, Coil, Rotor, Hub, Willys BBC SBC 216 235 265 283 327 350 396 427 454
Vintage Part
Yes
Placement on Vehicle
Assembly Cruise Control Telescopic Rim Wheel, CB Radio Diamond T White Mack IHC GMC, Dealer Installed Bolt-On Add-On Option Compass, Display Advertising Sign Gas Oil Ornament, Dome Garnish Radio AM/FM 8 Track Cassette, Emblem Badge Cowl Tag Vin Body Style Code, Engine Transmission Big Small Block BBC SBC, Fender Hood Trunk Deck Lid Quarter Panel Patch, Ignition Distributor Coil Plug Points Contact Set, Interior Exterior Dash Seats Instrument Gauges, Job Resale Lot Collection Group Large Rare TROG, Mascot Car Club Cruise Accessory Part Mechanism, Model A B T Master Special Deluxe Special Century, Rim Blow Wood Grain Spoke Tilt Steering Wheel, Spotlight Keychain Spinner Knob Seat Cover, Steering Wheel Dashboard Glove Box Pad Headliner, Tach Speedometer Oil Temperature Fuel Gas, Targa Rumble Seat Barn Find Lacquer 94 97, Wheel Hubcap Grill Molding Trim Stainless Rocker, wheel rim steering column interior exterior
Brand
GM
Type
Accessory Rare Factory Option Interior Exterior
Interchange Part Number
8-Track, Cassette, Speaker, 3rd Row, Jump, Tilt, Assembly, Gas, Fuel, Cap, Radiator, Hose, Core, Bellhousing, Water Neck, Flex Plate, Fuel, Water, Bolt, Clip, Washer, Shim, Hardware, Restoration,, Carburetor, 1, 2, 4 Barrel, 1BBL, 2BBL, 4BBL, Cluster, Mirror, Glove Box, Seatbelt, Armrest, Column, Console, Shifter, 3, 4, Speed, Automatic, Cover, Tappet, Spring, Oval Port, Hi-Po, V8, Dome Light, Door Panel, Carpet, Floor Mat, Engine, Motor, Head, Intake, Exhaust, Manifold, Flathead, Inline, 6, 8, Straight, Cam Shaft, Oil, Headrest, Bench, Bucket, Split, AM/FM, Radio,, Hinge, Shock, Mount, Hanger, Ornament, Emblem, Interior, Exterior, Seat, Dash, Gauge, Instrument, Manual, Transmission, Tach, Tachometer, Clock, Moulding, Spear, Garnish, Sill Plate, Drip Rail,, Pulley, Belt, Crankshaft, Crank, Rocker Arm, Valve, Pump, Alternator, Generator, Starter, Distributor,, Tail Panel, Handle, Lock, Latch, Mechanism,, Wiper, Switch, Motor, Blower, Heater, A/C, Control
OE/OEM Part Number
88 98 F85 442 Cutlass W-30 2+2 Eldorado, A B C E Body Platform Satellite GTX Rotunda, Appleton Stromberg Trippe Dealer Installed, Autolite Motorcraft Bosch Trico Kelsey Hayes OEM, Belvedere Cuda Barracuda Fury Challenger RT, Billet Belly Pan Bobbed Blown Blower Hiboy, Bored Stroked Bone Stock Boost Bucket Bull Nose, Borg Warner Muncie Saginaw Toploader, Charger Coronet Lancer Valiant Duster, Chevele Chevy II Nova Caprice Camaro Corvette, Coach Carson Top Dagmar Crate Digger Duval Flatty, Coupe Deville Mustang Torino Cougar Falcon Galaxie, Fairlane Ranchero Thunderbird T-Bird Comet, Flathead Fastback Front Clip Four Two Barrel, FoMoCo Carter Holley Napa Echlin Shurhit BW, GM General Motors Guide Delco-Remy Mopar, GS Skylark Riviera GTO Lemans Tempest Bonneville, Gasser Glasspack GOAT Grill Shell Headers Highboy, Impala Belair 150 210 Fleetline Styleline Deluxe, Monterey XR7 SCJ CJ 428 429 Continental Mark
Features
170 198 225 241 259 315 325 Hemi Poly Y-Block, 215 223 262 332 256 401 403 NailHead, 216 235 261 265 283 327 350 396 402 427 454 SBC, 302 400 455 500 239 223 262 254 215 332 352 360, 361 390 406 410 427 428 351 270 273 352 332, 383 340 426 440 201 219 175 190 160 196 201 212, American Racing Crane Hedman Frontenac SW, Cal-Custom Evans Bell Auto Cragar Cyclone Howard, Crower Sheifier Snider Halibrand Edmunds Fenton, Engine Motor Block Head Oil Pan Horsepower, Hot Rat Rod Chop Channel Section Lowrider Chassis, Isky Iskenderian Eelco Lakewood Mallory Hurst, Lead Sled Bomba Car Club SCTA AACA TROG, Man-a-fre Appliance Paxton Hilborn Cyclone, Moon Equipped Power Tour Race Drag Bomba, Slant 6 Inline V8 Flathead L65 L88 L82 ZL1, Spalding Kurten Kong Thickstun Heidts, Tattersfield Speed Parts, Tri-Power Fuel Injection FI Fuelie 3x2 Dual Quad, Winfield Weiand Nicson Edelbrock Offenhauser
Finish
Brushed, Chrome, Gloss, Matte, Painted, Polished Chrome, Polished Nickel, Aluminum Steel Mag Magnesium Nickel Plated, Lacquer Basecoat Clearcoat Wrap Dipped, Paint Chrome Stainless Polished Patina Faded, Paint Primer Detail Restore Project
Country of Origin
United States
@mustangmanbob
Now now, lets not be so picky
Some of the people here will say that YOU just didn't do the search correctly! You didn't have quotes, dashes, comers, capital letters, periods, and on and on and on.......
It's all YOUR fault that you got those results
PLUS
Were you standing on one leg with one hand behind your back?
No wonder you didn't get the correct results Shame on you...........
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
I think you misunderstood what he's saying.
What he's telling you is that NO FILTER would keep that listing from showing up.
Further, he's saying that YOU would blame ebay search when it did show up.
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I picked five random coins I have for sale on eBay and searched for them, just to see what happens.
eBay's search function found them.
But...but...but...
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Any luck figuring this out? I am still getting 327 results searching "1865 pcgs" and only a small fraction of that searching "1865 pcgs or ngc".
Several of my canned searches that I have used for decades now return hundreds of totally unrelated items. PITA for sure...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
The "or" doesn't seem to work in the app correctly. It may be the default setting of the keyword search. I don't see a way to adjust it like you canon the website.
Edited: figured it out, with the help of a Google search. "OR" doesn't work in the app, but you can use parentheses. Use: "1865" + (pcgs, ngc). That gives you 1865 coins from both services, 642 total hits.
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Awesome. Thank you, I never would have guessed to try it that way.
That should also work for the person who wanted to search multiple grades. Just do (45, 50, 53, 55) or whatever.
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it's finding items that fit but returning items that don't too. it shouldn't be where everything needs to be in quotes to return the proper list of items.
An explanation has been provided that narrows the results down to the "proper list of items".
And yet, the complaints continue.
It's easier just to complain. The (ngc, pcgs) is probably better than the filter, but no one cares.
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you mean putting 1979 nickel ms 66 returning dimes is my fault?
Yes, if you don't use quotation marks
If it's not doing an all word match, it will return just 1979 items or just nickels or just 66. If you insist that "nickel" be present with the quotation marks, it won't return anything that doesn't have the word.
But the "best match" sort should put the dimes on the bottom. Lol.
I also don't see how having an NGC filter would solve the dime problem. You can mostly solve the dime problem using the category filter.
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No, that's not your fault. What is your fault is not understanding how the search function works.
As I noted above, a solution has been posted that will not show dimes. Use it to get the results you want or keep complaining- your choice.
Well, sure. eBay should just know what I'm searching for.
As soon as the cognitive implants are available this problem will go away...welll... other than your own scattered thoughts.
I managed to get exactly the results I wanted on both the web and in the app. And I even posted it for others to be able to reproduce. And yet, we just need the NGC button back, even though that doesn't filter out quarters.
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hmmmmm
searching for :: 1979 nickel ms 66
means I get all nickels ms 66 even if not 1979
and
all denominations that are 1979 ms 66
and
all 1979 nickel ms at any grade
and
all 1979 Nickel 66
this is the expected result from :: 1979 nickel ms 66 ??
If you want just "1979 nickel ms 66" and nothing else, it's been explained to you how to obtain that result.
Why isn't that good enough?
No, it won't. I can see it now...
"Well, that's what I was thinking but it's not what I wanted..."
is it the expected result or not?
Yes, unless the search is for all words. You can change this on the website but not in the app
Here are your 4 options on the website:
Any words, Any order
All words, any order
Exact words, exact order
Exact words, any order
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And here's the default for the app:
You can use the parentheses and quotation marks as discussed above to change it, but there isn't advanced search options available as on the website.
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I would expect the results to be consistent with how eBay says they provide those results. Since it's their search tool, it's going to work the way they want it to. Their "How to use search" webpage has an overview explanation what they're doing. You might consider checking it out. Spoiler alert: If you're expecting that this search:
1979 nickel ms 66
will result in a list of items that match all four search terms, you're going to be disappointed. ChatGPT says:
eBay tells us:
-Best Match is the default ranking system.
-Relevance to search terms matters.
-Popularity, price, browsing history, location and other factors matter.
-Listing completeness and item specifics matter.
-Search can include related results.
-Product Research is substantially more exact.
-eBay regularly changes its Best Match algorithm.
eBay does NOT publicly tell us:
-the exact matching algorithm
-the numerical relevance score
-the weighting of 1979 versus nickel versus MS 66
-exactly when a missing term causes a listing to be excluded
-the precise query-expansion rules
-whether a particular synonym is generated algorithmically or manually
-the exact role of title vs. item specifics for each query
-the threshold at which eBay decides to broaden a query
edited to add... more from ChatGPT:
If you're trying to understand why changing one word in an eBay search can dramatically change the results, Boolean logic alone is not a sufficient model. eBay's search is capable of ranking and interpreting results rather than merely retrieving listings that satisfy literal conditions.
What eBay explicitly acknowledges: Best Match considers relevance to the search, popularity, price, listing quality/completeness, listing terms, seller track record, and—according to eBay's buyer-facing help—things such as browsing history and item location.
A Boolean search is essentially rule-based filtering. You tell the search engine exactly what conditions must be met. eBay's search is much more like a ranking system.
if you expect chatgpt to be reliable then you are already wrong
And just for the heck of it, here's a coin from a listing that does match all your search terms (1979 nickel ms 66):
it wasn't required to use quotes in the past to keep a quarter out of a nickel search. if this is a new effort then it is a failur.
however, to alaura, put quotes on each word should do it (for now) the way to do an "or" is with parenthesis
("pcgs, "ngc") will leave out anacs and cacg and the third worlders
we should not have to use quotes, and we did not in the past. search is now a broken mess.
eBay changes things- everybody knows this. There's lots of things I would have preferred that eBay didn't "improve", but they don't ask me when they make changes. Either accept that's so or complain about it- your choice.
If you think it's wrong more than it's correct, you are already wrong.
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Basic search has not changed. The filters were the only thing that I see as different. The basic search has always had those options and behaved that way. That's the way all search works.
Here's a Google search using 1979 nickel MS 66.
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Based on your posts regarding eBay's search function, I'll go with ChatGPT's take on what to expect from it over yours.
The only thing that I see that's different is the filter options. The search itself always had those same options.
Further, you could still use the category filter to limit the search to the nickels category.
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From "How to use search" on eBay:
When you search for an item on eBay, the listings in your search results are ranked by our Best Match algorithm. The algorithm is designed to show you the listings that most closely match what you're looking for.
Listings are ranked based on a variety of factors, including:
-how closely the listing matches your search terms
-how popular the item is
-the price of the item
-your browsing history
-the item's location
Other factors such as the seller's track record on eBay, how complete the listing is, and the number of listings matching your query, are also taken into account. Promoted listings that match your search query and interests will also appear higher in search results.
That sounds suspiciously similar to ChatGPT's interpretation:
eBay tells us:
-Best Match is the default ranking system.
-Relevance to search terms matters.
-Popularity, price, browsing history, location and other factors matter.
-Listing completeness and item specifics matter.
-Search can include related results.
-Product Research is substantially more exact.
-eBay regularly changes its Best Match algorithm.
Just sayin'.