@MWK said:
There was enough suspicious activity with the waiting room that I seriously considered not buying this coin and waiting until after I had successfully purchased the 1804 silver dollar gold coin to buy today's Walking Liberty gold coin. I am going to be terribly upset if I am unable to buy the 1804 silver dollar gold coin later this month.
Because of the Mint's poorly designed web site, I don't see how I can complete a purchase in under a minute. It doesn't allow me to stay logged on hours before coin availability before timing out so I have to log in using the special link for user names that are not an e-mail address and at check out, I have to enter the credit card verification code. I can only hope there are no flippers or that they end up eating it when people refuse to pay the mark-up.
If I do not manage to snag an 1804 silver dollar gold coin, I will not buy in the secondary market.
I'm not sure who you are punishing by not buying one on the secondary market, but YOU GO GIRL!
Pretty sure the idea is to punish the person who boxed them out at the Mint, who only bought it to sell to them at a markup. I do the very same thing. I truly enjoy the things I buy from the Mint, but, believe it or not, have managed to live a meaningful productive life without owning anything that I was unable to source directly from the Mint upon release.
I buy classics from dealers and auction houses, but have not once, ever, other than when I was a kid and back filled some proof sets, bought any modern anything on the secondary market. That is fine for flippers, and for people who cannot live without things they were denied by a flipper from buying from the source, but I have never felt a need to reward that.
It's not punishing anyone, especially if the price is reasonable. If it's super hot, it'll hold value. If it's not, you can probably buy it at issue price down the line. Either way, the secondary market doesn't care who buys it, so you are only denying yourself a coin that you want.
It's about price, not whether you're in the primary or secondary market.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
@MWK said:
There was enough suspicious activity with the waiting room that I seriously considered not buying this coin and waiting until after I had successfully purchased the 1804 silver dollar gold coin to buy today's Walking Liberty gold coin. I am going to be terribly upset if I am unable to buy the 1804 silver dollar gold coin later this month.
Because of the Mint's poorly designed web site, I don't see how I can complete a purchase in under a minute. It doesn't allow me to stay logged on hours before coin availability before timing out so I have to log in using the special link for user names that are not an e-mail address and at check out, I have to enter the credit card verification code. I can only hope there are no flippers or that they end up eating it when people refuse to pay the mark-up.
If I do not manage to snag an 1804 silver dollar gold coin, I will not buy in the secondary market.
I'm not sure who you are punishing by not buying one on the secondary market, but YOU GO GIRL!
Pretty sure the idea is to punish the person who boxed them out at the Mint, who only bought it to sell to them at a markup. I do the very same thing. I truly enjoy the things I buy from the Mint, but, believe it or not, have managed to live a meaningful productive life without owning anything that I was unable to source directly from the Mint upon release.
I buy classics from dealers and auction houses, but have not once, ever, other than when I was a kid and back filled some proof sets, bought any modern anything on the secondary market. That is fine for flippers, and for people who cannot live without things they were denied by a flipper from buying from the source, but I have never felt a need to reward that.
It's not punishing anyone, especially if the price is reasonable. If it's super hot, it'll hold value. If it's not, you can probably buy it at issue price down the line. Either way, the secondary market doesn't care who buys it, so you are only denying yourself a coin that you want.
It's about price, not whether you're in the primary or secondary market.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
NJ, that’s a good attitude and approach to most everything in life. Be happy with what you’ve got and what you can obtain, without over-extending yourself mentally, financially or otherwise.
Did you add BOM3 to your collection today? No rush. Plenty to go around, and looks like it never reached back order status. If those earliest ATS numbers were on-point, back order might have (or will) kick in around the 19,000 ATS mark. Didn’t reach that today.
@MWK said:
There was enough suspicious activity with the waiting room that I seriously considered not buying this coin and waiting until after I had successfully purchased the 1804 silver dollar gold coin to buy today's Walking Liberty gold coin. I am going to be terribly upset if I am unable to buy the 1804 silver dollar gold coin later this month.
Because of the Mint's poorly designed web site, I don't see how I can complete a purchase in under a minute. It doesn't allow me to stay logged on hours before coin availability before timing out so I have to log in using the special link for user names that are not an e-mail address and at check out, I have to enter the credit card verification code. I can only hope there are no flippers or that they end up eating it when people refuse to pay the mark-up.
If I do not manage to snag an 1804 silver dollar gold coin, I will not buy in the secondary market.
I'm not sure who you are punishing by not buying one on the secondary market, but YOU GO GIRL!
Pretty sure the idea is to punish the person who boxed them out at the Mint, who only bought it to sell to them at a markup. I do the very same thing. I truly enjoy the things I buy from the Mint, but, believe it or not, have managed to live a meaningful productive life without owning anything that I was unable to source directly from the Mint upon release.
I buy classics from dealers and auction houses, but have not once, ever, other than when I was a kid and back filled some proof sets, bought any modern anything on the secondary market. That is fine for flippers, and for people who cannot live without things they were denied by a flipper from buying from the source, but I have never felt a need to reward that.
It's not punishing anyone, especially if the price is reasonable. If it's super hot, it'll hold value. If it's not, you can probably buy it at issue price down the line. Either way, the secondary market doesn't care who buys it, so you are only denying yourself a coin that you want.
It's about price, not whether you're in the primary or secondary market.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
NJ, that’s a good attitude and approach to most everything in life. Be happy with what you’ve got and what you can obtain, without over-extending yourself mentally, financially or otherwise.
Did you add BOM3 to your collection today? No rush. Plenty to go around, and looks like it never reached back order status. If those earliest ATS numbers were on-point, back order might have (or will) kick in around the 19,000 ATS mark. Didn’t reach that today.
Thanks! But don't give me more credit than I deserve. I'm not saying I'm actually happy. Just that I learn to live without, because I refuse to financially reward the people who deny me.
Yes, as I've said before, tributes to the classics are right in my wheelhouse. I've been looking forward to BOM since it was announced last year.
I'm true to my word. While I certainly love it when things I buy go up in value, I buy to collect, not to flip. So I know this isn't going to do anything, unless gold goes back to $5K per ounce, but I like it.
I'd much rather be able to buy what I like than have to fight off bots, do without, or pay hefty secondary market premiums just to be able to collect what I like. So, although it's not a popular view here, I wish they'd offer everything on an unlimited basis during a limited ordering window, be it a day, a week or a month.
That would totally kill the flippers and bots, but totally serve collectors, which is really what I think they should be doing with the numismatic program. After all, they are a government agency, not a private mint. But Hollis is clearly going in the exact opposite direction with auctions, limited edition Liberty Bells, and $124.50 base metal annual coin sets, so it is what it is.
@MWK said:
There was enough suspicious activity with the waiting room that I seriously considered not buying this coin and waiting until after I had successfully purchased the 1804 silver dollar gold coin to buy today's Walking Liberty gold coin. I am going to be terribly upset if I am unable to buy the 1804 silver dollar gold coin later this month.
Because of the Mint's poorly designed web site, I don't see how I can complete a purchase in under a minute. It doesn't allow me to stay logged on hours before coin availability before timing out so I have to log in using the special link for user names that are not an e-mail address and at check out, I have to enter the credit card verification code. I can only hope there are no flippers or that they end up eating it when people refuse to pay the mark-up.
If I do not manage to snag an 1804 silver dollar gold coin, I will not buy in the secondary market.
I'm not sure who you are punishing by not buying one on the secondary market, but YOU GO GIRL!
Pretty sure the idea is to punish the person who boxed them out at the Mint, who only bought it to sell to them at a markup. I do the very same thing. I truly enjoy the things I buy from the Mint, but, believe it or not, have managed to live a meaningful productive life without owning anything that I was unable to source directly from the Mint upon release.
I buy classics from dealers and auction houses, but have not once, ever, other than when I was a kid and back filled some proof sets, bought any modern anything on the secondary market. That is fine for flippers, and for people who cannot live without things they were denied by a flipper from buying from the source, but I have never felt a need to reward that.
It's not punishing anyone, especially if the price is reasonable. If it's super hot, it'll hold value. If it's not, you can probably buy it at issue price down the line. Either way, the secondary market doesn't care who buys it, so you are only denying yourself a coin that you want.
It's about price, not whether you're in the primary or secondary market.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
NJ, that’s a good attitude and approach to most everything in life. Be happy with what you’ve got and what you can obtain, without over-extending yourself mentally, financially or otherwise.
Did you add BOM3 to your collection today? No rush. Plenty to go around, and looks like it never reached back order status. If those earliest ATS numbers were on-point, back order might have (or will) kick in around the 19,000 ATS mark. Didn’t reach that today.
Thanks! But don't give me more credit than I deserve. I'm not saying I'm actually happy. Just that I learn to live without, because I refuse to financially reward the people who deny me.
Yes, as I've said before, tributes to the classics are right in my wheelhouse. I've been looking forward to BOM since it was announced last year.
I'm true to my word. While I certainly love it when things I buy go up in value, I buy to collect, not to flip. So I know this isn't going to do anything, unless gold goes back to $5K per ounce, but I like it.
I'd much rather be able to buy what I like than have to fight off bots, do without, or pay hefty secondary market premiums just to be able to collect what I like. So, although it's not a popular view here, I wish they'd offer everything on an unlimited basis during a limited ordering window, be it a day, a week or a month.
That would totally kill the flippers and bots, but totally serve collectors, which is really what I think they should be doing with the numismatic program. After all, they are a government agency, not a private mint. But Hollis is clearly going in the exact opposite direction with auctions, limited edition Liberty Bells, and $124.50 base metal annual coin sets, so it is what it is.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I’m in the same boat as you with this series. I wanted it from the start, simply to collect and enjoy it. As with the EU gold Eagle, I have zero intention to ever sell it. I’ve been sitting on the 2016 Centennial set for 10 years now under the same standards. I enjoy it, like to examine it (albeit not as often as I did when I first obtained them) and have no olan to part with them.
Glad to hear you got a set, although there was never a concern you’d be beaten to the punch on this one by a swarm of Bots. Mine is already on its way, and expected in record time WITHOUT paying for next day. Funny thing is, I paid for next-day shipping on BOM2 and they didn’t ship it for 5 days. This one I chose the slowest option, and will have it almost immediately.
@MWK said:
There was enough suspicious activity with the waiting room that I seriously considered not buying this coin and waiting until after I had successfully purchased the 1804 silver dollar gold coin to buy today's Walking Liberty gold coin. I am going to be terribly upset if I am unable to buy the 1804 silver dollar gold coin later this month.
Because of the Mint's poorly designed web site, I don't see how I can complete a purchase in under a minute. It doesn't allow me to stay logged on hours before coin availability before timing out so I have to log in using the special link for user names that are not an e-mail address and at check out, I have to enter the credit card verification code. I can only hope there are no flippers or that they end up eating it when people refuse to pay the mark-up.
If I do not manage to snag an 1804 silver dollar gold coin, I will not buy in the secondary market.
I'm not sure who you are punishing by not buying one on the secondary market, but YOU GO GIRL!
Pretty sure the idea is to punish the person who boxed them out at the Mint, who only bought it to sell to them at a markup. I do the very same thing. I truly enjoy the things I buy from the Mint, but, believe it or not, have managed to live a meaningful productive life without owning anything that I was unable to source directly from the Mint upon release.
I buy classics from dealers and auction houses, but have not once, ever, other than when I was a kid and back filled some proof sets, bought any modern anything on the secondary market. That is fine for flippers, and for people who cannot live without things they were denied by a flipper from buying from the source, but I have never felt a need to reward that.
It's not punishing anyone, especially if the price is reasonable. If it's super hot, it'll hold value. If it's not, you can probably buy it at issue price down the line. Either way, the secondary market doesn't care who buys it, so you are only denying yourself a coin that you want.
It's about price, not whether you're in the primary or secondary market.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
NJ, that’s a good attitude and approach to most everything in life. Be happy with what you’ve got and what you can obtain, without over-extending yourself mentally, financially or otherwise.
Did you add BOM3 to your collection today? No rush. Plenty to go around, and looks like it never reached back order status. If those earliest ATS numbers were on-point, back order might have (or will) kick in around the 19,000 ATS mark. Didn’t reach that today.
Thanks! But don't give me more credit than I deserve. I'm not saying I'm actually happy. Just that I learn to live without, because I refuse to financially reward the people who deny me.
Yes, as I've said before, tributes to the classics are right in my wheelhouse. I've been looking forward to BOM since it was announced last year.
I'm true to my word. While I certainly love it when things I buy go up in value, I buy to collect, not to flip. So I know this isn't going to do anything, unless gold goes back to $5K per ounce, but I like it.
I'd much rather be able to buy what I like than have to fight off bots, do without, or pay hefty secondary market premiums just to be able to collect what I like. So, although it's not a popular view here, I wish they'd offer everything on an unlimited basis during a limited ordering window, be it a day, a week or a month.
That would totally kill the flippers and bots, but totally serve collectors, which is really what I think they should be doing with the numismatic program. After all, they are a government agency, not a private mint. But Hollis is clearly going in the exact opposite direction with auctions, limited edition Liberty Bells, and $124.50 base metal annual coin sets, so it is what it is.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I’m in the same boat as you with this series. I wanted it from the start, simply to collect and enjoy it. As with the EU gold Eagle, I have zero intention to ever sell it. I’ve been sitting on the 2016 Centennial set for 10 years now under the same standards. I enjoy it, like to examine it (albeit not as often as I did when I first obtained them) and have no olan to part with them.
Glad to hear you got a set, although there was never a concern you’d be beaten to the punch on this one by a swarm of Bots. Mine is already on its way, and expected in record time WITHOUT paying for next day. Funny thing is, I paid for next-day shipping on BOM2 and they didn’t ship it for 5 days. This one I chose the slowest option, and will have it almost immediately.
Yeah. But it won't happen, because it would involve work, and then a manual process. And because they just don't care.
@Nephasth said:
250 hand written cards for each release of the series is quite a bit of manual work. I think it shows he cares a little.
Nope. That's marketing.
If they cared, they wouldn't be pricing base metal annual coin sets at $124.50 each, or not making them to demand, or making 2026 gold Liberty Bells to be sold at $19,600 each. Signing a few cards to gin up a little excitement is just marketing.
I'm sure he'll sign as many COAs as you want in Pittsburgh in a few weeks. Doesn't mean he is going to care if they don't make enough BOM4s and you don't get one.
Yeah, well, not really sure what else you would be expecting here. You can cheer lead all you want, but, yeah, you should know where I stand and not be shocked that I would respond.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I emailed Director Hollis with this exact suggestion a few days ago. Crickets... not even a canned response from staff.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I emailed Director Hollis with this exact suggestion a few days ago. Crickets... not even a canned response from staff.
Good. Thank you. I'll definitely be rethinking BOM5, if I don't get BOM4. I mean if they were going to cut back BOM2 or BOM3 would have been where to do it, as BOM4 and BOM5 would have more interest. No, now they have thousands of BOM 1, 2 and 3 sitting on the shelf gathering dust.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I emailed Director Hollis with this exact suggestion a few days ago. Crickets... not even a canned response from staff.
Good. Thank you. I'll definitely be rethinking BOM5, if I don't get BOM4. I mean if they were going to cut back BOM2 or BOM3 would have been where to do it, as BOM4 and BOM5 would have more interest. No, now they have thousands of BOM 1, 2 and 3 sitting on the shelf gathering dust.
The initial ATS was 10,240 on this one. The ABPP took 1618 of their 4500, leaving 8622 of that initial ATS. As of now (one hour after the HHL was lifted) they have sold 7143 that were available to retail buyers. If they can move 1479 more of them someday (???) it will be telling if they go to back order status. If that's the case, then they won't have much, if any, stock sitting around, and will simply mint to demand until we stop buying altogether later this year.
BOM1 was basically a sell-out, and I've got no clue what they're doing with BOM2. They may have played this the smart way as far as excess inventory, but that remains to be seen. It's almost a certainty that they will sell out of the highly-anticipated BOM4 and BOM5.
Possibly one of the last posts in this thread, as this one wasn't all that popular. Mine arrived today, and here is the comparison to its 2016 version. The medal is one of the best of the 5 IMO.
It seems the gold coins from 2016 are more strongly struck than these new coins. That's what I noticed on mine: the strike seems weak and the details aren't that sharp.
@MWK said:
It seems the gold coins from 2016 are more strongly struck than these new coins. That's what I noticed on mine: the strike seems weak and the details aren't that sharp.
I like it but you are spot on, it is a very soft strike.
I like the medal but it is my least favorite of the three thus far. Liberty on the obverse appears too laser-cut/sharp on the obverse whereas the reverse seems a little blobby. Not awful or anything but it's not as appealing as the other two IMO.
@lermish said:
I like the medal but it is my least favorite of the three thus far. Liberty on the obverse appears too laser-cut/sharp on the obverse whereas the reverse seems a little blobby. Not awful or anything but it's not as appealing as the other two IMO.
I rather dislike the medal. Liberty is looking mannish and the hands are in a straightish, jutting pose that looks something like a martial arts stance. Even Liberty's gown/robe reminds me of a fancy samurai warrior's clothes instead of something an emissary of peace would wear. Liberty's curved right arm and curled left arm on the Weinman design are a much less aggressive pose. I guess Liberty on the medal is supposed to be aggressive-looking as even the eagle on the reverse of the medal has a furled brow that makes it look like it is angry.
The medal that will be shipped with the Saint-Gaudens double eagle is also not my favorite because Liberty is depicted face-on and thus looks like she ran into a brick wall. Faces look better in profile on coins but the Saint-Gaudens double eagle gets away with it because Liberty's face is so tiny that it hides the flatness.
Last night at our coin club meeting, a member kindly brought in the set with the gold Standing Liberty quarter. WOW, what an eyeful of beauty! I am not much for modern productions but that was a gorgeous pair of modern specimens.
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5,900 sold in over 5 hours. Off to the expected slow start.
Whether it's actually "punishing" anyone depends on the market, not the individual. But the idea is to not reward the behavior by enabling it.
As I said, I have been disappointed on occasion by being unable to buy things that sell out quickly. I live without, rather than rewarding someone who elbowed past me online in order to grab it, not to own, but to flip to me at a profit.
Sure, if they can flip to someone else, they don't care, and don't even know about me. If not, then they are "punished," as happened to most with gold Liberty Bell coins. I told you what the idea is.
In real life, most of the time, the flippers are fine. So I am. My belly is full and I have a roof over my head.
So, yes, I want the things I can't get from the Mint. I don't need any of them. And I do deny myself. Because I don't need, and I don't want to reward flippers.
If everyone did what I do, there would be no flipping, and collectors would always be able to get what they want from the Mint at issue price. But I can't fix the world. I can only control my tiny piece of it.
NJ, that’s a good attitude and approach to most everything in life. Be happy with what you’ve got and what you can obtain, without over-extending yourself mentally, financially or otherwise.
Did you add BOM3 to your collection today? No rush. Plenty to go around, and looks like it never reached back order status. If those earliest ATS numbers were on-point, back order might have (or will) kick in around the 19,000 ATS mark. Didn’t reach that today.
Thanks! But don't give me more credit than I deserve. I'm not saying I'm actually happy. Just that I learn to live without, because I refuse to financially reward the people who deny me.
Yes, as I've said before, tributes to the classics are right in my wheelhouse. I've been looking forward to BOM since it was announced last year.
I'm true to my word. While I certainly love it when things I buy go up in value, I buy to collect, not to flip. So I know this isn't going to do anything, unless gold goes back to $5K per ounce, but I like it.
I'd much rather be able to buy what I like than have to fight off bots, do without, or pay hefty secondary market premiums just to be able to collect what I like. So, although it's not a popular view here, I wish they'd offer everything on an unlimited basis during a limited ordering window, be it a day, a week or a month.
That would totally kill the flippers and bots, but totally serve collectors, which is really what I think they should be doing with the numismatic program. After all, they are a government agency, not a private mint. But Hollis is clearly going in the exact opposite direction with auctions, limited edition Liberty Bells, and $124.50 base metal annual coin sets, so it is what it is.
Selfishly, I wish Director Hollis would compile a list of buyers who purchased all three of the first sets and let us have first shot at the final 2. Seems a simple task. Why not reward those committed to the series?
I’m in the same boat as you with this series. I wanted it from the start, simply to collect and enjoy it. As with the EU gold Eagle, I have zero intention to ever sell it. I’ve been sitting on the 2016 Centennial set for 10 years now under the same standards. I enjoy it, like to examine it (albeit not as often as I did when I first obtained them) and have no olan to part with them.
Glad to hear you got a set, although there was never a concern you’d be beaten to the punch on this one by a swarm of Bots. Mine is already on its way, and expected in record time WITHOUT paying for next day. Funny thing is, I paid for next-day shipping on BOM2 and they didn’t ship it for 5 days. This one I chose the slowest option, and will have it almost immediately.
Yeah. But it won't happen, because it would involve work, and then a manual process. And because they just don't care.
250 hand written cards for each release of the series is quite a bit of manual work. I think it shows he cares a little.
still waiting for my two Best of the Mint Merc Dimes and Medals that have been on backorder
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700
Nope. That's marketing.
If they cared, they wouldn't be pricing base metal annual coin sets at $124.50 each, or not making them to demand, or making 2026 gold Liberty Bells to be sold at $19,600 each. Signing a few cards to gin up a little excitement is just marketing.
I'm sure he'll sign as many COAs as you want in Pittsburgh in a few weeks. Doesn't mean he is going to care if they don't make enough BOM4s and you don't get one.
I knew better than to engage...
Yeah, well, not really sure what else you would be expecting here. You can cheer lead all you want, but, yeah, you should know where I stand and not be shocked that I would respond.
I emailed Director Hollis with this exact suggestion a few days ago. Crickets... not even a canned response from staff.
Good. Thank you. I'll definitely be rethinking BOM5, if I don't get BOM4. I mean if they were going to cut back BOM2 or BOM3 would have been where to do it, as BOM4 and BOM5 would have more interest. No, now they have thousands of BOM 1, 2 and 3 sitting on the shelf gathering dust.
The initial ATS was 10,240 on this one. The ABPP took 1618 of their 4500, leaving 8622 of that initial ATS. As of now (one hour after the HHL was lifted) they have sold 7143 that were available to retail buyers. If they can move 1479 more of them someday (???) it will be telling if they go to back order status. If that's the case, then they won't have much, if any, stock sitting around, and will simply mint to demand until we stop buying altogether later this year.
BOM1 was basically a sell-out, and I've got no clue what they're doing with BOM2. They may have played this the smart way as far as excess inventory, but that remains to be seen. It's almost a certainty that they will sell out of the highly-anticipated BOM4 and BOM5.
BOM3 HHL removed. Another ~1000 sold. ATS: 20727.
They will still be selling them on the website when the Tricentennial arrives.
Possibly one of the last posts in this thread, as this one wasn't all that popular. Mine arrived today, and here is the comparison to its 2016 version. The medal is one of the best of the 5 IMO.
Mine arrived today with a bonus:
Congratulations! Very nice!
I ordered one tonight.
It seems the gold coins from 2016 are more strongly struck than these new coins. That's what I noticed on mine: the strike seems weak and the details aren't that sharp.
I'm looking to buy a medal by itself if anyone has one they will divorce from their set.
I like it but you are spot on, it is a very soft strike.
I like the medal but it is my least favorite of the three thus far. Liberty on the obverse appears too laser-cut/sharp on the obverse whereas the reverse seems a little blobby. Not awful or anything but it's not as appealing as the other two IMO.
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
I rather dislike the medal. Liberty is looking mannish and the hands are in a straightish, jutting pose that looks something like a martial arts stance. Even Liberty's gown/robe reminds me of a fancy samurai warrior's clothes instead of something an emissary of peace would wear. Liberty's curved right arm and curled left arm on the Weinman design are a much less aggressive pose. I guess Liberty on the medal is supposed to be aggressive-looking as even the eagle on the reverse of the medal has a furled brow that makes it look like it is angry.
The medal that will be shipped with the Saint-Gaudens double eagle is also not my favorite because Liberty is depicted face-on and thus looks like she ran into a brick wall.
Faces look better in profile on coins but the Saint-Gaudens double eagle gets away with it because Liberty's face is so tiny that it hides the flatness.
Last night at our coin club meeting, a member kindly brought in the set with the gold Standing Liberty quarter. WOW, what an eyeful of beauty! I am not much for modern productions but that was a gorgeous pair of modern specimens.
Official PCGS account of:
www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com
The US Mint price went up didn't it?
Best of the Mint 1916 Walking Liberty Half Dollar Gold Coin and Silver Medal Set
Semiquincentennial Coins and Medals
Multi (P)(W)
$2,900.00
fleabay samples of paired slabbed sp70 sets seem to be currently going for around $3K in auctions
I was tempted but passed.
I like the detail of the 2016 better.
Yes. Issue price was $2775.