Vaultbox Slabs: Good, Bad or Indifferent?

124Spider · July 31, 2026 3:44PM

Hi,

As I search for the coins on my shopping list, I stumble across coins in a Vaultbox slab from time to time.

Gambling has no attraction for me, so I have never dabbled in that game; but I have no problem with it existing.

I find that I am absolutely turned off to the idea of buying an otherwise acceptable coin if it's in a Vaultbox holder.

I'm wondering if others share this aversion.

Thanks.

Mark

cheezhed · July 31, 2026 3:48PM

I don't search them out if that means anything.

lermish · July 31, 2026 3:49PM

I would immediately reholder any coin I bought in a VB slab but there are some perfectly fine coins in those holders.

MsMorrisine · July 31, 2026 3:49PM

i would buy if i saw something on a white whale list because it can be reholdered

TomB · July 31, 2026 3:51PM

I'd imagine that if force to purchase a coin in such a holder that I would have to consider the cost and time for a reholder in the purchase price. The same holds for those Trader Bee abominations.

johnny9434 · July 31, 2026 4:12PM

No, I haven't even thought of it outside of seeing it here. No interest in it either

124Spider · July 31, 2026 4:38PM

@johnny9434 said:
No, I haven't even thought of it outside of seeing it here. No interest in it either

Just to clarify, I'm talking about coins that were graded by PCGS with a special label showing it was a Vaultbox coin, that is now trading on the secondary market. I assume that the grade is as reliable as a regular PCGS slab, but I am turned off by the Vaultbox label; I'm wondering if others share that aversion.

MWallace · July 31, 2026 4:42PM

I don't buy coins in VB Slabs or coins in several other slabs.

Unknown · July 31, 2026 5:38PM

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lkenefic · July 31, 2026 6:13PM

If the coin was acceptable and I needed it for my collection, I'd buy one... but I'd also have to consider the cost of getting it re-holdered and shipping as I bid.

edited to add... unless I'm buying it for one of my albums, then leaving it raw would work...

humanssuck · July 31, 2026 10:42PM

@TomB said:
The same holds for those Trader Bee abominations.

Those slabs = 😬😤🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😵

oldabeintx · August 1, 2026 5:11AM

Indifferent. I have a few and the coins are nice.

fathom · August 1, 2026 1:24PM

@jmlanzaf said:
I think if it like any other PCGS slab.

You get extra credit for your consistency.

Unknown · August 1, 2026 2:55PM

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U1chicago · August 1, 2026 4:18PM

If I liked the coin, I would pay the same amount for it as I would any other modern PCGS or NGC slab.

MasonG · August 1, 2026 4:22PM

Label? Don't care.

skier07 · August 1, 2026 9:49PM

Buy the coin and not the label on the holder.

I don’t particularly care for the label but if it was a nice coin that I wanted I’d most definitely buy it.

Cougar1978 · August 1, 2026 10:29PM

Not real familiar with pricing there. Are they trading below CDN bid?

BStrauss3 · August 2, 2026 6:13AM

2nd mouse gets the cheese.

SOMEBODY overpaid to get that slab, lost their shirt on the resale, and now the market has them fairly valued.

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coinbuf · August 2, 2026 4:20PM

@124Spider said:
I'm wondering if others share this aversion.

Yes both the VB and Trader Bea slabs are a turnoff for me. Both are so garish and take your attention off the coin, I would not avoid buying one if it had the right coin but would need to include the reholdering costs into the deal.

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MasonG · August 2, 2026 4:39PM

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

P0CKETCHANGE · August 2, 2026 4:44PM

I actually bought a coin in a VaultBox slab last week (in part) BECAUSE it was in a VaultBox slab.

It was a Barber proof listed online, and the seller photos were no better than basic slab scans, so there was a lot of uncertainty about the purchase and I was leaning towards passing on the coin.

But, when I looked the coin up on the VaultBox website, it included the buy-back offer for the coin. The offer was exactly the same price as what the seller was asking for the coin.

Since this essentially de-risked the purchase, I pulled the trigger. I haven’t gotten it in hand yet, but if I dislike it, I’ll take the VB offer and be made whole.

If I do like it, it’ll be sent to CAC stickering and then CACG for reholder.

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NJCoin · August 3, 2026 4:25PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

Well, it it's a matter of taste but basic red and black doesn't strike me as "garish".

How about the 10 point grading scale that landed with a thud?

Unknown · August 3, 2026 4:26PM

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NJCoin · August 3, 2026 4:48PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

Well, it it's a matter of taste but basic red and black doesn't strike me as "garish".

How about the 10 point grading scale that landed with a thud?

The 10 point grading system predates the VB slabs and continues to exist. Google NGCX

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ngcx-10-point-grading-scale/

Edited to add: they also continue to dominate the Ancients market with dual 5 point grading systems.

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ancient-coins/grading.aspx

And, of course, they sometimes use the stupid 70 point scale.

Google NGCX? Yes, I know what it is. Launched with great fanfare, shortly before VB. I think VB was the first big user.

Where is it today, and why did VB diversify away from it? It was supposed to be the next Big Thing, chasing after the same market as VB.

The fact that NGC has not yet pulled the website means nothing. I haven't seen or heard from this since shortly after launch, since, as I said, it landed like a thud. It's not the next Big Thing. it's a garish feature of a red NGCX VB slab.

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NJCoin · August 3, 2026 5:59PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

Well, it it's a matter of taste but basic red and black doesn't strike me as "garish".

How about the 10 point grading scale that landed with a thud?

The 10 point grading system predates the VB slabs and continues to exist. Google NGCX

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ngcx-10-point-grading-scale/

Edited to add: they also continue to dominate the Ancients market with dual 5 point grading systems.

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ancient-coins/grading.aspx

And, of course, they sometimes use the stupid 70 point scale.

Google NGCX? Yes, I know what it is. Launched with great fanfare, shortly before VB. I think VB was the first big user.

Where is it today, and why did VB diversify away from it? It was supposed to be the next Big Thing, chasing after the same market as VB.

The fact that NGC has not yet pulled the website means nothing. I haven't seen or heard from this since shortly after launch, since, as I said, it landed like a thud. It's not the next Big Thing. it's a garish feature of a red NGCX VB slab.

Do your own research. They launched NGCX largely for moderns not classics, although they sometimes use it for classics. It is not tied to VB, although VB used it. It was for bulk submitters.

It is used at the request of submitters not forced upon them. Check the census, there are tens of thousands of NGCX coins.

I know. But where are they? I don't see them on TV, which is almost exclusively modern, and high volume at that. I don't see them online.

Tens of thousands? Since launch? You don't say. How many hundreds of thousands of moderns do NGC, PCGS and ANACS combined slab each month?

Census is one thing. How many went to VB? How many have been added to the census in the last 6 months? Tens of thousands is nothing. Especially if there is no longer any interest. Is there?

I know there was a launch. I know there was a lot of hype. And now I don't see or hear about them anywhere, other than right here, right now.

BryceM · August 3, 2026 6:13PM

The painting is generally more important than the frame, but on occasion the frame can be so terrible that it detracts from the art. Still, in the end, it’s all about the painting.

Same thing.

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NJCoin · August 3, 2026 7:01PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

Well, it it's a matter of taste but basic red and black doesn't strike me as "garish".

How about the 10 point grading scale that landed with a thud?

The 10 point grading system predates the VB slabs and continues to exist. Google NGCX

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ngcx-10-point-grading-scale/

Edited to add: they also continue to dominate the Ancients market with dual 5 point grading systems.

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ancient-coins/grading.aspx

And, of course, they sometimes use the stupid 70 point scale.

Google NGCX? Yes, I know what it is. Launched with great fanfare, shortly before VB. I think VB was the first big user.

Where is it today, and why did VB diversify away from it? It was supposed to be the next Big Thing, chasing after the same market as VB.

The fact that NGC has not yet pulled the website means nothing. I haven't seen or heard from this since shortly after launch, since, as I said, it landed like a thud. It's not the next Big Thing. it's a garish feature of a red NGCX VB slab.

Do your own research. They launched NGCX largely for moderns not classics, although they sometimes use it for classics. It is not tied to VB, although VB used it. It was for bulk submitters.

It is used at the request of submitters not forced upon them. Check the census, there are tens of thousands of NGCX coins.

I know. But where are they? I don't see them on TV, which is almost exclusively modern, and high volume at that. I don't see them online.

Tens of thousands? Since launch? You don't say. How many hundreds of thousands of moderns do NGC, PCGS and ANACS combined slab each month?

Census is one thing. How many went to VB? How many have been added to the census in the last 6 months? Tens of thousands is nothing. Especially if there is no longer any interest. Is there?

I know there was a launch. I know there was a lot of hype. And now I don't see or hear about them anywhere, other than right here, right now.

There are currently over 1600 NGCX coins on ebay.

Are you looking for them? Or you expect them to just find you?

Neither. Just saying I don't see them or hear about them.

I don't go looking for Dan Carr overstrikes on eBay, but can't avoid them, either here or on TV. On multiple channels. Several times per week.

Same with every single Mint release this year. I see them all over the place. Without going out of my way to look for them. Haven't seen a single one in a NGCX slab.

For comparison, how many NGC coins on eBay? You seem very good at finding exceptions to every rule.

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NJCoin · August 3, 2026 7:14PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@NJCoin said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
VB slabs are "garish"? They are black and/or red.

Well, the red is sort of garish. The black, not so much.

Well, it it's a matter of taste but basic red and black doesn't strike me as "garish".

How about the 10 point grading scale that landed with a thud?

The 10 point grading system predates the VB slabs and continues to exist. Google NGCX

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ngcx-10-point-grading-scale/

Edited to add: they also continue to dominate the Ancients market with dual 5 point grading systems.

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ancient-coins/grading.aspx

And, of course, they sometimes use the stupid 70 point scale.

Google NGCX? Yes, I know what it is. Launched with great fanfare, shortly before VB. I think VB was the first big user.

Where is it today, and why did VB diversify away from it? It was supposed to be the next Big Thing, chasing after the same market as VB.

The fact that NGC has not yet pulled the website means nothing. I haven't seen or heard from this since shortly after launch, since, as I said, it landed like a thud. It's not the next Big Thing. it's a garish feature of a red NGCX VB slab.

Do your own research. They launched NGCX largely for moderns not classics, although they sometimes use it for classics. It is not tied to VB, although VB used it. It was for bulk submitters.

It is used at the request of submitters not forced upon them. Check the census, there are tens of thousands of NGCX coins.

I know. But where are they? I don't see them on TV, which is almost exclusively modern, and high volume at that. I don't see them online.

Tens of thousands? Since launch? You don't say. How many hundreds of thousands of moderns do NGC, PCGS and ANACS combined slab each month?

Census is one thing. How many went to VB? How many have been added to the census in the last 6 months? Tens of thousands is nothing. Especially if there is no longer any interest. Is there?

I know there was a launch. I know there was a lot of hype. And now I don't see or hear about them anywhere, other than right here, right now.

There are currently over 1600 NGCX coins on ebay.

Are you looking for them? Or you expect them to just find you?

Neither. Just saying I don't see them or hear about them.

I don't go looking for Dan Carr overstrikes on eBay, but can't avoid them, either here or on TV. On multiple channels. Several times per week.

Same with every single Mint release this year. I see them all over the place. Without going out of my way to look for them. Haven't seen a single one in a NGCX slab.

For comparison, how many NGC coins on eBay? You seem very good at finding exceptions to every rule.

There's no doubt the Sheldon scale is still more popular.

Not sure what any of this has to do with VB, anyway.

Nothing. I should have kept my mouth shut, but felt the need to chime in by pointing out that something "garish" about the slabs you posted, aside from the color, might be the NCGX scale that is not market standard.

ChangeInHistory · August 4, 2026 7:58AM

When looking for coins, my first thought is indifferent, but I could do without the 'eye-catching' slab, and the hype associated with it. I realize it's part of attracting new and younger collectors, however I would like to see a downturn in the 'gamification' of numismatics.

BigFrankie · August 4, 2026 7:36PM

I don't like any Vault Box slab. Some are worse than others. If I ever purchased one, I would re-holder. The PCGS red ones are utterly terrible!

Steven59 · August 4, 2026 9:13PM

They do sell very well at auctions!

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BigFrankie · August 5, 2026 7:55AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@BigFrankie said:
I don't like any Vault Box slab. Some are worse than others. If I ever purchased one, I would re-holder. The PCGS red ones are utterly terrible!

Witter Bricks? Or just generic PCGS red ones.

The generic PCGS red ones with the giant words "VAULT BOX" on the front and the coin label on the bottom of the reverse.

Cougar1978 · August 6, 2026 11:46AM

Witterbrick CACG highly sought and bring good retail money.

Catbert · August 6, 2026 11:58AM

Vaultbox Slabs: Good, Bad or Indifferent?

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