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Do you consider Liberty nickels a part of the Barber series?
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Do you consider Liberty nickels a part of the Barber series?
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No.
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The designer was Barber.
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Even though by the same designer, it ran a several year different time from the dime, quarter and half.
I also prefer the Liberty nickel design over that man he put on the silver coins.
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It depends upon how you define "Barber series". If you mean the commonly thought of trio of dime, quarter and half dollar then no. However, if you consider it to be coins designed by Charles Barber then sure, and if you want to go farther and include his father (after all same last name) then the Trade dollar and twenty-cent piece become part of it, too.
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No.
No.
Walkers and Mercs were both designed by Weinman. But I don't think anyone would call them the "same series".
Now, if one enjoys the work of a particular coin designer and decides to collect both and consider them part of the same personal set, there's certainly nothing wrong with that. We all have the freedom to collector in whatever way we choose.
But to call them the "same series" would just be inaccurate.
No. The Barber silver coinage is an entity all its own. The two different designs are just that.
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No, they are cousin's at best. If I ever finish the dimes, quarters and halves, maybe would work on the nickels.
Since you didn’t define “Barber series” (intentionally?), I’ll go with the accepted use of the term among collectors. No.
Yes, left it vague intentionally. Pretty clear consensus (90%/10%). I've heard them referred to as "Barber nickels" on occasion, even recently, although I believe that phrase is less common than it once was in the past. A few voted the other way, but either didn't feel strongly enough or weren't brave enough to explain further in a comment. Thanks all.
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Ok. They, them, or it. 😆 something neutral.....
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Of course it is. It lays almost perfectly on the art and history of the other coinage of the time and was even designed by the same individual.
I'm not surprised most people differentiate them due to metal content and the fact there are two designs and the other three are the "same". I tend not to categorize things at all but when I do I tend to use broad categories because everything is unique.
I'd wager most numismatists in 1893 would consider it all "Barber coinage".
They did. They don't anymore.
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Surely you'd agree that the reality hasn't changed and those numismatists are all gone (probably).
Don't make me get Copilot to explain this.
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mechanics (reality)
categories (interpretation)
Evolution? Same pattern.
Hydrology? Same pattern.
Pyramid Texts? Same pattern.
Science itself? Same pattern.
You’re pointing out that categorical thinkers confuse the label for the thing.
In 1893, “Barber coinage” was the label.
Today, it’s obsolete.
The coins didn’t change."_
Same designer but different type.
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The nickel, dime, quarter and half dollar designed by Barber are all "Liberty head" designs. So, I don't understand the reluctance to call the Liberty Nickel (1883-1912) a part of the "Barber" series. Liberty nickels are absolutely part of the Barber series. That's my brave opinion.
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The nickel is Barber’s Christmas album. It’s him, for sure, and nice, just not the same as the rest of his catalog.
Lots of designers created different coins. Do we consider them to be part of the same series based on designer?
Barber dimes, quarters, and half dollars have the same obverse design. They are called "Barber" because that was the designer, but the label applies to coins of a certain obverse design. It's a generally accepted label used to describe a specific coin design, and it happens to be the designer's name.
The point of the question wasn't about the type. You are reading more into the question than it asks. Series of coins: First the nickel, starting 1883, then the dime, quarter and half dollar starting 1892.
The logical conclusion is that four distinctly different types of coin comprise the Barber series.
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When I said type, I didn’t mean different denominations. Barber Dimes, quarters and halves all have the decidedly same design, but the nickel looks significantly different. That’s what I meant.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
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The reverses of the dime, quarter, and half dollar are different from each other.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
The old folders even called them Barber nickels. No one calls them that now. And you know that. They are referred to as Liberty nickels or V nickels. But salmon swim upstream, so whatever.
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Mercury dimes, Indian cents and all the bust coins and early copper are also "Liberty Heads". It's going to be confusing.
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In other words, Copilot agrees with me. Does it hurt?
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The old folders also called them "Morgan", FWIW...
Yup. But times change... well... not cladking. Lol
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ROFL.
I spent my first 20 years learning a new name for China's capital every few days. Long ago I just gave up and started calling it "Peking". I figure it honors the millions of Chinese people who once lived there.
This is a little different though because the only categories I try to model are ones I use to communicate and I keep these categories very very tight very very precise. I call them "V-nickels" and the type I 1883 I call "no-cents V-nickel" if I must name it at all.
To each his own, eh?
Copilot-
You said:
The only categories I try to model are ones I use to communicate and I keep these categories very very tight very very precise.
This is the procedural rule:
A category is only allowed if it improves communication.
A category is never allowed to replace reality.
A category must map to a physical constraint.
A category must not drift.
A category must not become symbolic.
A category must not become hierarchical.
Replace Barber "series" with Barber "designs" there is no confusion. Well, shouldn't be any confusion anyway.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell