I don’t think soccer players are any more or less babies than NFL players but I haven’t done an exhaustive study. There were games I would have enjoyed wearing pads though.
The clock in soccer is stopped by the referee as required for stoppages or time wasting. The idea is that the game is supposed to continue flowing and that’s also a part of the delay tactics and that’s why it’s for the referee to control vs a hard rule.
Soccer isn’t for everyone. After my time was done I didn’t watch a game until my son started playing. Now it’s soccer soccer soccer.
"Soccer isn’t for everyone" agreed. it was interesting to watch the first half, just seeing how such a popular sport is played. I like the "idea" of soccer. its very rich history and the great players and passion from fans around the world. I just dont enjoy actually watching the sport. i think it is that i do not enjoy free flow sports all that much, including ice hockey. just not my jam.
i get it though, i am in the minority on that one. I am certain that those around the world get bored watching an NFL game with all the down time. short bursts of extreme action/violence surrounded by 35 seconds of downtime. it must be insufferable to those used to soccer.
it could be we just really appreciate what we watch/participate in from youth. I am sure that if i would have been born in Argentina or Brazil I would be a rabid soccer fan!
To make soccer more interesting there only needs to be one rule change, well, actually two:
--- While running up and down the "pitch" all afternoon each player is allowed to cold-cock 5 players during the game.
--- No individual player may be punched more than 5 times.
That would liven things up!!
BTW, wasn't there a member who was making the case almost daily for the last few weeks that a current player was the GOAT?? He seems to have vanished after said player proved to be an embarrassment.
In America, soccer sucks!! END OF DEBATE!!! We now return you to our regularly scheduled NCAA slugfest thread.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@craig44 said:
another thing that i noticed was the amount of players hitting the ground and covering their faces/writhing after what appeared to be minor "hits" there was only one pretty good collision that i can remember and even that would be considered very mild compared to an average NFL hit.
are the players that soft or are they flopping like in the nba?
They're flopping. I forget which semi I was watching but guys flopping and hitting the deck was incredibly frequent. In a span of about 20-30 minutes, there were at least 8-10 guys hitting the deck and nearly all were from zero or extremely light contact.
@galaxy27 said:
what i find interesting is people having a difficult time appreciating soccer due to the lack of scoring, yet when it comes to American sports that same scenario is suddenly disgestible. imagine if the '85 Bears had given up zero points that season -- if you thought that unit was in the pantheon before, just imagine if they had dished out a clean sheet every week. the next time i hear someone say, "i couldn't stomach watching a Chicago Bears game in 85/86 because they prevented the other team from scoring in bunches and therefore made the product unwatchable"........it'll be the very first time. Spain was the '85 Bears the entire World Cup. it was a master class in defense for 7 games. i for one appreciated the pop tarts out of it.
It's not quite the same thing. That '85 Bears team is perceived as aggressive and pressing the action. Too often in soccer - I'm speaking in general here since I didn't watch the final or any Spain games - "defense" takes the form of just not trying on offense. Retreat, bop the ball around for 3 minutes, move up a bit, retreat, kill another 3 minutes, repeat.
England's victory over Mexico is an example of a team relying on defense in one way and Spain's victories in all of their matches is an example of a team relying on defense in another way.
Teams like France use defense as a way to exploit other teams with an explosive counter-attacking scheme. Not all 1-0 games are created equal... they're not all boring bloop singles.
I'm speaking in general here since I didn't watch the final or any Spain games
Spain's defense was historic. i actually shortchanged them -- they gave up 1 goal in EIGHT matches.
they were suffocating. high pressure, heavy possession, and strict tactical discipline throughout
and of course it's not the same thing. soccer is far more fluid. you have the same 11 alternating between offense and defense the entire game.
the point i was making is that if preventing the other team from scoring matters, then their D should be lauded in the same way the Bears' defense has been for decades
From what I watched the game doesn’t vary significantly since I played it as a kid in 6th grade PE class.
Still a whole bunch of kicking the opponent in the shin and writhing in pain on the ground.
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I don’t think soccer players are any more or less babies than NFL players but I haven’t done an exhaustive study. There were games I would have enjoyed wearing pads though.
The clock in soccer is stopped by the referee as required for stoppages or time wasting. The idea is that the game is supposed to continue flowing and that’s also a part of the delay tactics and that’s why it’s for the referee to control vs a hard rule.
Soccer isn’t for everyone. After my time was done I didn’t watch a game until my son started playing. Now it’s soccer soccer soccer.
@bgr
"Soccer isn’t for everyone" agreed. it was interesting to watch the first half, just seeing how such a popular sport is played. I like the "idea" of soccer. its very rich history and the great players and passion from fans around the world. I just dont enjoy actually watching the sport. i think it is that i do not enjoy free flow sports all that much, including ice hockey. just not my jam.
i get it though, i am in the minority on that one. I am certain that those around the world get bored watching an NFL game with all the down time. short bursts of extreme action/violence surrounded by 35 seconds of downtime. it must be insufferable to those used to soccer.
it could be we just really appreciate what we watch/participate in from youth. I am sure that if i would have been born in Argentina or Brazil I would be a rabid soccer fan!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
look at how insignificant the NFL is in the grand scheme of our planet
nowhere to be found
ping-pong is more popular
I would have thought F1 would be up there top fewish.
So is this thread trying to keep up with the embattled College Football thread?
World Cup is over
College Football hasn't started
It all checks out 😂😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
To make soccer more interesting there only needs to be one rule change, well, actually two:
--- While running up and down the "pitch" all afternoon each player is allowed to cold-cock 5 players during the game.
--- No individual player may be punched more than 5 times.
That would liven things up!!
BTW, wasn't there a member who was making the case almost daily for the last few weeks that a current player was the GOAT?? He seems to have vanished after said player proved to be an embarrassment.
In America, soccer sucks!! END OF DEBATE!!! We now return you to our regularly scheduled NCAA slugfest thread.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
🙂
I’m loving how much Maywood hates his life. Brings a smile to my face. Bitterness
Still, no base bal gu. Must be sulking.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
They're flopping. I forget which semi I was watching but guys flopping and hitting the deck was incredibly frequent. In a span of about 20-30 minutes, there were at least 8-10 guys hitting the deck and nearly all were from zero or extremely light contact.
It's not quite the same thing. That '85 Bears team is perceived as aggressive and pressing the action. Too often in soccer - I'm speaking in general here since I didn't watch the final or any Spain games - "defense" takes the form of just not trying on offense. Retreat, bop the ball around for 3 minutes, move up a bit, retreat, kill another 3 minutes, repeat.
England's victory over Mexico is an example of a team relying on defense in one way and Spain's victories in all of their matches is an example of a team relying on defense in another way.
Teams like France use defense as a way to exploit other teams with an explosive counter-attacking scheme. Not all 1-0 games are created equal... they're not all boring bloop singles.
Spain's defense was historic. i actually shortchanged them -- they gave up 1 goal in EIGHT matches.
they were suffocating. high pressure, heavy possession, and strict tactical discipline throughout
and of course it's not the same thing. soccer is far more fluid. you have the same 11 alternating between offense and defense the entire game.
the point i was making is that if preventing the other team from scoring matters, then their D should be lauded in the same way the Bears' defense has been for decades
From what I watched the game doesn’t vary significantly since I played it as a kid in 6th grade PE class.
Still a whole bunch of kicking the opponent in the shin and writhing in pain on the ground.