Major Rarity in Sunday’s GC Auction
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There are only 4 examples known. This coin, discovered in 2012, was the last of the 4. Just read that the legendary Louis Eliasberg added one of the then 3 known as the next to last coin in his vast collection. Bid right now @ $127.5k & I’m “guessing” it moves much higher.
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Wish I had deep pockets!!!
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Amazing all the way around, I like 👍
Cool coin!
What a rare bird!!
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I hate when people post my cherry picks. I was hoping to get this for about $100.
But…..but…..WAIT!…..it doesn’t have a green or gold bean. I’ll pass for now and wait for one that is bean approved.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
trophy coin for sure
certainly enough of a headline piece that it deserves to be talked about while on auction
Sat AM - last bid @ $152.5k. I don’t don’t specialize in these types of coins; no idea how high this might go, but it is a pop 4…..
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300k-400k is my guess will see if the deep pockets fight it out.
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@Catbert:
Hi Dan - did you see this? How deep are your pockets?
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The fact it is a mint (New Orleans) rarity makes it that much more special versus some overdate or the like.
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Yes + it’s a pop 4
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When Top Pop is a 35, you know it's rare. The 35 sold for $517k in 2017.
Mintage and survivors are both 4? That's something you don't see every day.
EDIT - THE COINFACTS MINTAGE FIGURE I CITED IS INCORRECT PER @MFELD BELOW.
That coin has stories.
Why isn't it considered a transitional pattern or something like that?
I believe Congressional authorization as legal tender is the deciding factor between coins and patterns (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
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No, the mintage is unrecorded, but believed to have been in the hundreds or thousands, with nearly all having been melted.
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I see.
Maybe someone with our gracious host could update Coinfacts.
@MFeld raises a good point. Pops reported are “4 known”. PCGS grades are G6, VG8 (this one & the most recent discovery in 2012), F12 & the VF35 cited above.
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There’s an informative description in CoinFacts authored by Ron Guth. In it, he cites two articles about the coin that should prove interesting.
As for me, I’m curious about the Eliasberg coin. Was it one one of the G6, F12 or VF35? Or, rather one of the ones melted? I don’t know when that may have occurred.
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The Eliasberg example couldn’t have been one of the ones melted or he wouldn’t have been able to obtain it.😉
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Stack's Coin Resource Center has some good info.
https://stacksbowers.com/coin-resource-center/coin/1853-o-no-arrows-no-rays-liberty-seated-half-dollar/
Thanks for the informative link! In parsing through it, the Eliasberg coin was the F-12.
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You don't think it could have been melted in the recent silver run-up? 🤣
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Hammered for$225k ($247,500 all in)!!
Pass the Cristal… and a toast to the winner!!
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A “bargain”!
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Wish I had deep pockets!!! > @Copperindian said:
Seems like one to me. Congrats to the buyer!!!
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I think a coin like this would do better at HA or SB timed with winter FUN or the ANA.
I wonder if anyone on the forum purchased this. It did seem like a relative bargain considering its rarity.
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GC is not usually good for major rarities like this. They have a big following but not the type of collectors/investors that HA has at the right auction as others have said here.
I wonder if it will appear again in the near future in another company's auction in connection with a major show. Given the prosperity of the upper 1% of the upper 1% these days my gut feeling is that it went toward the low end of expectations.
Saw this one but passed.
Still wondering why this one is included in the basic seated half set when it's pretty much unobtainable.
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If it’s an as-intended circulation strike whose rarity is simply due to meltings, shouldn’t it be included in the basic set?
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I agree with the post auction comments. For a coin like this, a description like HA/SB do would be warranted. As I don’t follow this series, I wasn’t aware of the pop 4/perceived rarity. I’m sure I’m not alone there. HA/SB would have done a better job with that + might have the 1% of 1% clientele another poster alluded to.
But make no mistake - GC has a massive following that continues to grow. Witness the $306k hammer for that newly discovered top pop 1885-CC Double Eagle yesterday. Apples & oranges comparison, sure. To me, GC was a decent choice for the 50C - perhaps not the best but that’s unknowable.
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So 1933 Saints since the government ordered them to be melted down are not part of a basic set while 1853-O’s are since they were never officially ordered to be melted by the government? Is my understanding correct?
I don’t know the basis upon which the grading companies determine their set parameters. However, I would distinguish the 1853–O half dollars from the 1933 $20’s because the Saints weren’t intended to be released and all but one are illegal to own.
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Wish I had deep pockets!!! > @DCW said:
Maybe the billionaire that is doing the top 100 US set. He may have needed the coin not sure. He posted his coins a while back but cannot recall if he had this coin or not.
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Can someone post the link to the coin?
The archives at GC are difficult to navigate.
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No offense to GC, but a coin of such importance deserves a much more in depth description. Each of the big-3 firms have their strengths and weaknesses for certain material. Congrats to the buyer! He or she stole it.