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Major Rarity in Sunday’s GC Auction

CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

There are only 4 examples known. This coin, discovered in 2012, was the last of the 4. Just read that the legendary Louis Eliasberg added one of the then 3 known as the next to last coin in his vast collection. Bid right now @ $127.5k & I’m “guessing” it moves much higher.

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  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wish I had deep pockets!!!

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing all the way around, I like 👍

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a rare bird!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sat AM - last bid @ $152.5k. I don’t don’t specialize in these types of coins; no idea how high this might go, but it is a pop 4…..

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Indy Eagles
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    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    300k-400k is my guess will see if the deep pockets fight it out.

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert:
    Hi Dan - did you see this? How deep are your pockets? B)

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The fact it is a mint (New Orleans) rarity makes it that much more special versus some overdate or the like.

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WildWestHalfDollars said:
    The fact it is a mint (New Orleans) rarity makes it that much more special versus some overdate or the like.

    Yes + it’s a pop 4

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

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    Copperindian
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  • Baylor8670Baylor8670 Posts: 253 ✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2026 1:48PM

    When Top Pop is a 35, you know it's rare. The 35 sold for $517k in 2017.

    Mintage and survivors are both 4? That's something you don't see every day.

    EDIT - THE COINFACTS MINTAGE FIGURE I CITED IS INCORRECT PER @MFELD BELOW.

  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin has stories.

  • dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why isn't it considered a transitional pattern or something like that?

  • Baylor8670Baylor8670 Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @dunkleosteus430 said:
    Why isn't it considered a transitional pattern or something like that?

    I believe Congressional authorization as legal tender is the deciding factor between coins and patterns (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copperindian said:
    @Catbert:
    Hi Dan - did you see this? How deep are your pockets? B)

    LOLLOLLOLOOOOL!

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  • Baylor8670Baylor8670 Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Baylor8670 said:
    When Top Pop is a 35, you know it's rare. The 35 sold for $517k in 2017.

    Mintage and survivors are both 4? That's something you don't see every day.

    No, the mintage is unrecorded, but believed to have been in the hundreds or thousands, with nearly all having been melted.

    I see.

    Maybe someone with our gracious host could update Coinfacts.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld raises a good point. Pops reported are “4 known”. PCGS grades are G6, VG8 (this one & the most recent discovery in 2012), F12 & the VF35 cited above.

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There’s an informative description in CoinFacts authored by Ron Guth. In it, he cites two articles about the coin that should prove interesting.
    As for me, I’m curious about the Eliasberg coin. Was it one one of the G6, F12 or VF35? Or, rather one of the ones melted? I don’t know when that may have occurred.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Copperindian
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    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copperindian said:
    There’s an informative description in CoinFacts authored by Ron Guth. In it, he cites two articles about the coin that should prove interesting.
    As for me, I’m curious about the Eliasberg coin. Was it one one of the G6, F12 or VF35? Or, rather one of the ones melted? I don’t know when that may have occurred.

    The Eliasberg example couldn’t have been one of the ones melted or he wouldn’t have been able to obtain it.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the informative link! In parsing through it, the Eliasberg coin was the F-12.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Copperindian said:
    There’s an informative description in CoinFacts authored by Ron Guth. In it, he cites two articles about the coin that should prove interesting.
    As for me, I’m curious about the Eliasberg coin. Was it one one of the G6, F12 or VF35? Or, rather one of the ones melted? I don’t know when that may have occurred.

    The Eliasberg example couldn’t have been one of the ones melted or he wouldn’t have been able to obtain it.😉

    You don't think it could have been melted in the recent silver run-up? 🤣

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2026 5:35PM

    Hammered for$225k ($247,500 all in)!!

    Pass the Cristal… and a toast to the winner!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:
    Hammered for$225k ($247,500 all in)!!

    A “bargain”!

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

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  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2026 6:01PM

    Wish I had deep pockets!!! > @Copperindian said:

    @Walkerfan said:
    Hammered for$225k ($247,500 all in)!!

    A “bargain”!

    Seems like one to me. Congrats to the buyer!!!

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if anyone on the forum purchased this. It did seem like a relative bargain considering its rarity.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    GC is not usually good for major rarities like this. They have a big following but not the type of collectors/investors that HA has at the right auction as others have said here.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if it will appear again in the near future in another company's auction in connection with a major show. Given the prosperity of the upper 1% of the upper 1% these days my gut feeling is that it went toward the low end of expectations.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Saw this one but passed. :D Still wondering why this one is included in the basic seated half set when it's pretty much unobtainable.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2026 7:17AM

    .

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    Saw this one but passed. :D Still wondering why this one is included in the basic seated half set when it's pretty much unobtainable.

    If it’s an as-intended circulation strike whose rarity is simply due to meltings, shouldn’t it be included in the basic set?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the post auction comments. For a coin like this, a description like HA/SB do would be warranted. As I don’t follow this series, I wasn’t aware of the pop 4/perceived rarity. I’m sure I’m not alone there. HA/SB would have done a better job with that + might have the 1% of 1% clientele another poster alluded to.
    But make no mistake - GC has a massive following that continues to grow. Witness the $306k hammer for that newly discovered top pop 1885-CC Double Eagle yesterday. Apples & oranges comparison, sure. To me, GC was a decent choice for the 50C - perhaps not the best but that’s unknowable.

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    Saw this one but passed. :D Still wondering why this one is included in the basic seated half set when it's pretty much unobtainable.

    If it’s an as-intended circulation strike whose rarity is simply due to meltings, shouldn’t it be included in the basic set?

    So 1933 Saints since the government ordered them to be melted down are not part of a basic set while 1853-O’s are since they were never officially ordered to be melted by the government? Is my understanding correct?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2026 7:45AM

    @skier07 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    Saw this one but passed. :D Still wondering why this one is included in the basic seated half set when it's pretty much unobtainable.

    If it’s an as-intended circulation strike whose rarity is simply due to meltings, shouldn’t it be included in the basic set?

    So 1933 Saints since the government ordered them to be melted down are not part of a basic set while 1853-O’s are since they were never officially ordered to be melted by the government? Is my understanding correct?

    I don’t know the basis upon which the grading companies determine their set parameters. However, I would distinguish the 1853–O half dollars from the 1933 $20’s because the Saints weren’t intended to be released and all but one are illegal to own.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2026 9:35AM

    Wish I had deep pockets!!! > @DCW said:

    I wonder if anyone on the forum purchased this. It did seem like a relative bargain considering its rarity.

    Maybe the billionaire that is doing the top 100 US set. He may have needed the coin not sure. He posted his coins a while back but cannot recall if he had this coin or not.

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can someone post the link to the coin?

    The archives at GC are difficult to navigate.

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No offense to GC, but a coin of such importance deserves a much more in depth description. Each of the big-3 firms have their strengths and weaknesses for certain material. Congrats to the buyer! He or she stole it.

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