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Does this 1836 half dollar appear to be a bogus, contemporary counterfeit to you?
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This one offers many characteristics that are appealing and give me pause as to the authentic nature of its origins.
Then again, I look at the reverse specifically and see some of the spacing between the letters are not appearing mint made.
What are your thoughts?
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Not an expert on these but my opinion is that it is a counterfeit.
I used to collect Capped Bust halves but was never familiar with all the varieties, but I think it may be real. Definitely not a contemporary counterfeit in my opinion. I look forward to hearing from the experts on this one.
Looks fine, just harshly cleaned. It appears to be O-117.
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Real but heavily polished.
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It's a real coin in AU cleaned
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The coin is genuine, cleaned. The lettering and numerals were hand punched letter by letter, so there is variance in placement.
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Why is it not in a TPG holder? Pass
Beware of big ticket coins that are not in a TPG holder.
My first instincts says it’s legit…
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Very much looks like a real O-117 to me. All of the diagnostics are there and the overall look and "fabric" looks right.
Now she probably won't ever straight grade, because she's been boinked pretty bad, but she does have some meat left on her bones.
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I agree.
Why are some of the inner star points, such as on stars #5-7, so strong?
That is not an example of a contemporary counterfeit in my opinion.
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A Genuine but cleaned coin. The quality is much too high to be a contemporary counterfeit.
Not sure I’d consider this a big ticket coin, as it’s the lettered edge variety, although I guess a “Sunday bourse” dealer might call it choice AU and ask $300.
If it were mine I certainly wouldn’t sink another $50 into it to get it in a genny holder.
Like others have stated, yes it’s genuine, harshly cleaned AU details. Not worth slabbing, and not a good album coin either, unless one is building a higher grade type set as cheaply as possible.
Genuine, as others have said.
Also, looks to have an interesting (but not particularly rare) experimental reeded edge.
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Looks genuine to me and I agree regarding not worthy of grading, although to sell it, you may be required to do so. Were it mine, it would go in an album for how many ever years possible and look at it again. JMO
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Agree that there is no reason to slab this coin. It would probably benefit from some judicious handling every now and then for a few years. Nose oil might be involved.
Metal flow, striking pressure variances, depth of star punched, die rotation etc. From coin to coin, strike weakness/metal flow is reflected similarly from different coins struck from the same die marriage.
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Expert opinions, to be sure.
This one arrived today and I am pleased with it.
Not as dull as the seller's photos (above).
Straight into my Dansco type set album.
I like your images and the decision to add to a type set album.
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Lots of details noticeable on the pictures you posted, 58-to Unc.; how would you grade with the coin in hand?
UNC details, cleaned.
Not polished though, yet for sure, dipped and/or cleaned.
Hairlines are minimal.
I wouldn't object if someone looking at it called it AU(58) details though.
Either way, a great album coin.
@Pnies20 I'd love more information, or at least where to look, regarding the edge.
Another quick note:
This 1918-S Walker arrived too for the album:
The Dansco 7070 is a great place for that new bustie.
In a similar vein, I too purchased a cleaned “slider” bust half for my 7070, about 16 years ago, as part of a bulk deal from a wholesale guy I knew.
Time and the album have been kind to it:
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Sometimes blast white coins just need some time to breathe.
This one was blast white (from a careful albeit blast white inducing dip) when I purchased her.
Several years later she looked like this when I sent her into PCGS, where she was graded as an AU58.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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The raw 1836 BU above looks nice but a lot of them cleaned. Get it in TPG holder
Take it out once a month and give it a little nose oil, applied with your thumb. Post another picture in five years.
No, humbly, I don't think I will.