Can anyone see why this coin is only graded MS 63?
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I saw this CACG coin on EBay that’s looks like a much higher grade than 63, and cannot figure out from the photos why? Can anybody see what is holding it back. FWIW I am not buying it
Never saw a 63 this beautiful
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There is some strike weakness, but overall a very pretty coin that could likely grade higher from these photos. My guess is the photos might be hiding some light grazes or marks, but CAC is known to grade conservatively.
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Nice coin but pricey. I’d be tempted to buy it otherwise. I like First Year type.
I see some rub on the eagle breast feathers. The lighting has enhanced the luster.
If some or all of the very dark looking areas at the periphery of each side aren’t merely shadows, perhaps that’s the reason.
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the obverse is holding it back but it looks nicer than a 63. don't buy it hoping for an upgrade
There is Significant chatter in the right facing obverse field. That is the main field focal point of any Walking liberty and the first place the graders look. I might see it as a 64, on a good day from another service, but no higher. There is also light chatter on the head and breast. Strike and luster are both good.
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It's CAC graded, and sometimes they are too conservative. Then again there might be more going on in the area of the sun than is visible in the photo.
If you are collecting these coins in MS-63 - 64, this would be agreat pick-up.
That's a beautiful coin.
I thought CAC doesn’t grade high point friction as uncirculated
no one should
You’re correct. If it had any friction, whatsoever, CAC would put it in a AU 58 holder.
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Is there a rim ding at 1 o'clock on the obverse? That might look worse in hand. Wouldn't ruin it for me though, that's an incredible coin no matter what it's graded.
There is a small dig along Liberty's leg. It could be deeper in person.
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On a side note: What's going on right above the foot and below IN GOD WE TRUST?
Looks almost like a clash?
Possibly hairlines that aren't visible in the photos. The coin has great luster and looks good overall, so they took off a point or two due to that.
That's a die clash and they are pretty cool when they are there. I think the coin looks nice and would have guessed a higher grade.
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The sun doesn’t have a nice smooth look.
I'm a Walker collector and I can't see anything that would keep it from a higher grade, even with that chatter on the right front field.
The strike seems sorta weak and there’s some light marks throughout. Beautiful coin though!
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I think a 63 is about right, jmo
I don’t see 63 as unreasonably harsh. Just a reminder that grading is subjective…
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I think 63 is fair. Maybe it 64s on a "good day" (grader bad day?) The reverse seems nicer, but that usually doesn't carry the day.
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63 seems a bit harsh to me. It has a little strike and die problem but is a beautiful specimen. I'd take a good hard look at those high points to be sure it wasn't a borderline AU-58. It looks to have slid in and out of an envelope quite a few times.
If I graded it Unc I'd call it a very low end Gem. (MS-65)
A little rub. Coins can get circulated a little and still be near Unc. Its better than an AU58+ so it gets a 63. That is my guess.
I like it, and I like CAC grading. Conservative grading is ok with me.
That's a solid 63 for sure. I think the strike is nice- notice she's got a thumb? Luster is not creamy like a 65 would be, and a mark on her neck and thigh keeps it where it is. There's a nice clash behind her ankle too.
It’s a really nice PQ CACG MS 63. Really Like it. How much above MS63 CDN Bid (CAC) would you ramp it up in auction to win it? Bet they would bid it into the stratosphere.
Thats a very nice coin. I've seen many higher graded Walkers with more issues than that coin. As far as strike goes its pretty good and they dont really factor strike in very much anyway IMO. Its at least a 64
I agree right field obverse chatter. I do like the die clash.
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I like the coin.
I love the photography.
To help everyone out, please realize that the 1916, and most of the 1917 issues, were intentionally struck with a matte finish, so you won’t see the frosty luster that you have on the later dates.
Also, the strike is very nice for the date, as is typical for the 1916 coins. The master dies were modified and skirt lines re-engraved multiple times over the years. You really can’t compare a 1916 walker to a deep dish original roll 1943 coin.
As others have said, it’s a solid 63+ coin, 64 on a good day, limited by some small marks and abrasions.