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GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭✭

Early days of slabs - I bought a nice original 1802/0 VG or so half cent in an ANACS soapbox, hated the notion of it being trapped in a plastic tomb, so I cracked it open with a vice and a pliers, the coin pops out of the insert onto a cement basement floor, and voila! Nice new bright coppery ding in the coin’s edge.
Ughhhh…. Talk about feeling like a blooming idiot…. Never again.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GuzziSport said:
    Early days of slabs - I bought a nice original 1802/0 VG or so half cent in an ANACS soapbox, hated the notion of it being trapped in a plastic tomb, so I cracked it open with a vice and a pliers, the coin pops out of the insert onto a cement basement floor, and voila! Nice new bright coppery ding in the coin’s edge.
    Ughhhh…. Talk about feeling like a blooming idiot…. Never again.

    Lesson learned, will get thru it

  • DesertCoinDesertCoin Posts: 364 ✭✭✭

    @GuzziSport said:
    Early days of slabs - I bought a nice original 1802/0 VG or so half cent in an ANACS soapbox, hated the notion of it being trapped in a plastic tomb, so I cracked it open with a vice and a pliers, the coin pops out of the insert onto a cement basement floor, and voila! Nice new bright coppery ding in the coin’s edge.
    Ughhhh…. Talk about feeling like a blooming idiot…. Never again.

    Better method: Hammer and light to moderate taps around the edge of the holder on an anvil until it can be gently disassembled.

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  • JimWJimW Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭

    I use my concrete garage floor instead of anvil LOL! But yes the hammer tap intensity is key.

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to use metal snips to cut them out. Ngc and pcgs would hold the coin securely, but I was cutting a $2 1/2 gold Indian out of a no name holder once and the coin slipped out of the prongs and I literally cut it almost into two pieces. Made me sick. It was a pretty decent coin too, even coming from a basement brand holder.

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never cracked one out, I'll leave it to all you Professionals :o
    Keep them coming it will help someone else learn Not What To Do.

  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For decades, metal snips were my go-to slab crackers.

    However, there was a learning curve:

    Early on, a customer brought in a PCGS graded Peace dollar (his optimistic declared value was $600) that he wanted us to send to NGC in hopes of an upgrade.

    Puting a submission together layer that week, I snipped too close when cracking out his coin and dug into the rim on both sides. Ouch!

    • He wasn’t too happy when I called to tell him what happened.

    • And I wasn’t too happy to pay him $600 for ruining a coin that I thought was worth closer to $200.

    But I immediately became a more careful cracker-outer, with no further numismatic fatalities.

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  • safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a nice coin on GC…and was happy when it arrived. After I logged it into my spread sheet, I took it and went to put it in my safe…..and it slipped out of my hand…and hit the front frame of the safe…..(approximately a two foot drop)…and it put a nice crack on the edge of the slab. Had to get PCGS to re-slab it for me…..🥴😩. Got it back and it’s safe and sound and back to new, but wasn’t happy about blowing almost $100 again for something so minor….

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Put it in a bench vise and slowly twist until the plastic halves pop apart. No risk of cutting or touching the coin. Plus sometimes it pops apart so cleanly that you can reuse the slab.

  • InlanderInlander Posts: 159 ✭✭✭✭

    I haven't cracked a coin out in a quite a while, but my go to (and safest method) was using a saw with a miter box.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got a chuckle out of a couple of these, including the OP's post. Not funny ... but since I know it was lessons learned from long ago ... kinda funny!


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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use a wire end cutter that is pretty new, so quite sharp and about 1" wide. I've cut out every type of holder with no danger to the coin but always do it at my desk over a soft towel.

  • GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pursuitofliberty said:
    I got a chuckle out of a couple of these, including the OP's post. Not funny ... but since I know it was lessons learned from long ago ... kinda funny!

    I know, but if you know me, you know I take my job as a steward of these historic artifacts very seriously!
    I felt like an abject failure in that role☹️

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    Chris

  • split37split37 Posts: 311 ✭✭✭✭

    A bandsaw works quite well also.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have this type:

    My mistakes and losses with coins, though small, have generally been limited to proper packaging.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @scubafuel said:
    Put it in a bench vise and slowly twist until the plastic halves pop apart. No risk of cutting or touching the coin. Plus sometimes it pops apart so cleanly that you can reuse the slab.

    Suggest that you wrap the slab in a cloth first for eye safety.

    Safety first!

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GuzziSport said:

    @pursuitofliberty said:
    I got a chuckle out of a couple of these, including the OP's post. Not funny ... but since I know it was lessons learned from long ago ... kinda funny!

    I know, but if you know me, you know I take my job as a steward of these historic artifacts very seriously!
    I felt like an abject failure in that role☹️

    Chris, even knowing you as little as I do do I know you take the role of a caretaker quite seriously (as do I), and so I guess in a dark way, that helps add to the humor


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  • GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pursuitofliberty thanks Todd, we’re of similar mindsets, and to think I didn’t even include the part about me chasing that ‘02 half cent around my cellar as it rolled away on its edge! Horrifying…. LOL

    Other passions include golf, Moto Guzzi motorcycles, and Euro motorcycles in general.
    Chris

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven’t damaged any coins by cracking them out, so my tale of woe is a little different.

    Shortly after PCGS announced that they were going to be doing restoration, I had a ‘33S walker in a 64 rattler that had some light gold haze on it that bugged me, so I submitted it.

    They cracked it, dipped it, and reholdered it in a new blue label slab. So I paid a moderate fee to make it look like everyone else’s….
    This was prior to the old holder craze of course, but I still think back on it and wince.
    Lesson learned, be happy with what you have and leave it alone, unless there’s substantial upside to be gained.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    My "pliers"..............

    One of my favorites 😍

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    My "pliers"..............

    That's the way to go.
    I use a vice and pliers too but I don't crack them out anymore. I have plenty of raw Morgan's to satisfy my appetite for them.
    I still buy them and from time to time I like to sell them but in the holder.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    My "pliers"..............

    Please please replace that blade pass through plate(is that what it's really called?). That is an injury waiting to happen if material is pulled into it.

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I haven’t damaged any coins by cracking them out, so my tale of woe is a little different.

    Shortly after PCGS announced that they were going to be doing restoration, I had a ‘33S walker in a 64 rattler that had some light gold haze on it that bugged me, so I submitted it.

    They cracked it, dipped it, and reholdered it in a new blue label slab. So I paid a moderate fee to make it look like everyone else’s….
    This was prior to the old holder craze of course, but I still think back on it and wince.
    Lesson learned, be happy with what you have and leave it alone, unless there’s substantial upside to be gained.

    If it makes you feel any better, they do say that they won't "just dip a coin back to white" so there was probably something else also going on.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Please please replace that blade pass through plate(is that what it's really called?). That is an injury waiting to happen if material is pulled into it.

    .
    No big deal - I've been a woodworker for 40 years - if ya can't work around a worn table insert then you shouldn't be around a saw in the first place,

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  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I have this type:

    My mistakes and losses with coins, though small, have generally been limited to proper packaging.

    Yes, that is exactly what I use and they work great on every slab that I've come across with no danger to the coin.

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    My "pliers"..............

    Drop that guide lower to the material :o remember what your highschool woodshop teacher told you, No Sense Tempting Fate. :D

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overkill. Pliers always worked for me, good old brute strength.

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wrap in old hand towel, place on edge on garage floor and tap with hammer gently. Towel contains coin and plastic shards - safer, no damage, easy cleanup.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Please please replace that blade pass through plate(is that what it's really called?). That is an injury waiting to happen if material is pulled into it.

    .
    No big deal - I've been a woodworker for 40 years - if ya can't work around a worn table insert then you shouldn't be around a saw in the first place,

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  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:
    Put it in a bench vise and slowly twist until the plastic halves pop apart. No risk of cutting or touching the coin. Plus sometimes it pops apart so cleanly that you can reuse the slab.

    I've learned to wrap in a few layers of newspaper or cardboard to prevent the possibility of the coin landing on the floor. But I agree the bench vise method is for me.

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