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1904 Lewis and Clark Gold Token Like the Commemorative $....Ever seen one ?

thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

Hello folks....I've had this piece for 40 or 50 years. I recently ran across it and attempted to find out a little bit about it. I've never seen another and haven't come up with anything.
It's gold, 14.4 millimeters in diameter and weighs 1.68 grams.

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mr_Spud

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe I would encase that coin, as small and thin as it is. Nice 2 headed coin. Nice flipper.
    Jim


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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OP's point is that their piece isn't the normal commemorative. It doesn't have a denomination.

    I don't think I've seen that before. Looks interesting. Clearly a counterfeit or replica of do sort. Possibly contemporary? It doesn't have the look of a modern Chinese piece.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's obviously not the commemorative and I agree it looks like a contemporary replica and not modern.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    edit token into the title so those people will look

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn’t notice the denomination was missing. I did another Google Lens search and pointed out the missing denomination and this was the result that came up with the focus on the missing denomination

    Mr_Spud

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably a souvenir item sold at the time (1904) in competition with the actual US gold coin.

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  • RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Probably a souvenir item sold at the time (1904) in competition with the actual US gold coin.

    It's minted on a gold planchet though. I can't imagine trying to compete against the U.S. Mint and getting away with it.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a dangerous copy to me, which could be used to fool people who don't know any better, or those who don't take the time to really look at the coin.

    I've read stories about how a baker was prosecuted for making cookies that resembled Indian Cents. If that's true, I can't understand why the Feds didn't come down on these people for making a close copy like this.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RedRocket said:

    @291fifth said:
    Probably a souvenir item sold at the time (1904) in competition with the actual US gold coin.

    It's minted on a gold planchet though. I can't imagine trying to compete against the U.S. Mint and getting away with it.

    This was an era when medal souvenirs were very common. Some were apparently sold just outside exhibit grounds. It would not surprise me to find that this piece was one such item.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not familiar with this knockoff at all. My gut feeling is contemporary.

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for chiming in folks !

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Might I recommend a good Specific Gravity test and some sort of electronic metal test to confirm the composition?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it does need testing.

    i'm guessing plated

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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:

    That would make this a very RARE coin, IMHO

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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2026 11:43AM

    Heads I will, Tails you lose?

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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭


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