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ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 7, 2026 8:18AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Just as the title says what is a coin that is not available on the market, but you are waiting patiently to come back around or just wish was available for a set and why.

I continue to struggle to find an upgrade for my William and Mary in my monarch set. It's been incredibly difficult to find in high grade and I am stuck at the moment. Looking at past auctions there's a few examples that have come and gone but I have to reach back to 2001 to find one I really feel like would solidify the slot in my set.

Sold by HA in 2001 ungraded for $632. I would happily pay $5k for this coin today. Potentially more.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:

    But why? Can't say I know anything about the coin in question.

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭✭





    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SimonW Is that the only known example with the IL?

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clio said:

    @Boosibri said:

    But why? Can't say I know anything about the coin in question.

    Unique 1866. 1867 was the regular issue. There is one reported in a museum in Chile, but it disappeared. Wonder where it is?

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2026 3:11PM

    @Clio said:
    @SimonW Is that the only known example with the IL?

    The only one I’m aware of. I have a feeling it would sell for more today. I think the first time around was such a surprise, the newness of it made people question the legitimacy of it. That and not many people care about Bolivian Republic.

    I would assume there’s more, I’ve looked, haven’t seen one.

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  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1827 R Brazil 960 Reis

  • ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MEJ7070 said:
    1827 R Brazil 960 Reis

    Why is that? Is that a year with overstrikes?

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  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    960R are generally all over struck on host coins.

    1827 R is one of the lower mintages in the series and, while not at all “rare” by the standards of this board (mintage of 18k, which is about 17,995 more than what I often see posted here), still doesn’t surface for sale with regularity like most of the dates in the series tend to. Some of the later Bahia dates are also in that ballpark of “hard to find” but they all come up once every few years.

    I’m just working on a registry set and the 1827 R is one of the tougher open slots. Set doesn’t include the real tough ones like the later Bahia dates or the crazy tough 1816 M. Those are coins I can fantasize about.

  • ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MEJ7070 said:
    960R are generally all over struck on host coins.

    1827 R is one of the lower mintages in the series and, while not at all “rare” by the standards of this board (mintage of 18k, which is about 17,995 more than what I often see posted here), still doesn’t surface for sale with regularity like most of the dates in the series tend to. Some of the later Bahia dates are also in that ballpark of “hard to find” but they all come up once every few years.

    I’m just working on a registry set and the 1827 R is one of the tougher open slots. Set doesn’t include the real tough ones like the later Bahia dates or the crazy tough 1816 M. Those are coins I can fantasize about.

    Very cool! Do you have a link to the set by chance?

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  • ClioClio Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking set. Seems you've only been working on it since November??? that's great progress. Very impressive.

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    The best collecting goals lie right on the border between the possible and the impossible. - Andy Lustig, "MrEureka"

  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. I bought a really nice 1817 R from CRO at Baltimore in November, then bought David Andre Levy’s book, then started getting hooked.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2026 8:40AM

    There are many, but this is a neat one.

    1813 Argentina 2s.


  • Plus00VltraPlus00Vltra Posts: 110 ✭✭✭



    If I could conjure a coin to fill a hole in my collection, right now it is this: 1769 Guatemala 8 Reales, large flan, ex Stuart.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SimonW said:

    I bought nine coins from that auction. It was the first live auction from which I bought, or else I would have bought more. I had a dealer represent me which was actually unnecessary, especially since he failed to bid on one. (I subsequently bought a similar coin a few years later.)

    The Whittier collection (this auction) was the largest and most comprehensive collection of Bolivia Republic I've ever seen, by far.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1771 Peru 4R which sold the same day in March 2002 I bought my 1770 Bolivia 4R. Coins looked essentially identical. I should have bought both.

    Another would be a 1756 or 1758 Peru 4R described as AU (ex-Patterson I recall) also on eBay a few months later, but the ask was $1750 which was far more than I spent on a single coin at the time.

  • Plus00VltraPlus00Vltra Posts: 110 ✭✭✭

    @SimonW said:

    $632?! No way!

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