Better date Morgan, straight grade or no?

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  • RedRocket
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    From your photos, straight grade.

  • RedRocket
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    Upper right corner, your Peace dollar looks interesting. Any chance of seeing it too?

  • MsMorrisine
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    looks ok

    is that shot with an incandescent bulb? seems yellow

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  • lkenefic
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    Based solely on those images, I couldn't tell if it would straight grade or not. Is that chatter under the eagles left wing or evidence of a cleaning? The reverse under the eagle's right wing is completely overexposed... I dunno...

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    So you’re the Satellite Camera guy!!! 😂😂😂😇

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  • johnny9434
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    Yes from what I can tell

  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't see anything that would cause me to say that it wouldn't grade. Of course, I also don't see anything that would cause me to say that it would.

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  • MFeld
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    The coin looks straight-grade worthy, despite a light cleaning.

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  • coinkat
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    Doubtful.

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  • 291fifth
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    Cleaned.

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  • TennesseeDave
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    Straight grade AU is my guess.

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  • marcmoish
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    looks cleaned to me so no.

  • fathom
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    I would say no but there are so many holdered that look multitudes worse send that in for sure.

  • relicsncoins
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    Hard to gauge luster from the photos. Based on the photos it doesn't seem to have the luster for a coin with that amount of detail. I would say AU details cleaned. Photos are a bit tough to garner much from.

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  • Morgan13
    Morgan13 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My opinion is it looks harshly cleaned but it is hard to tell from those images.
    Added: especially the reverse.

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  • RedRocket
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    @Morgan13 said:
    My opinion is it looks harshly cleaned but it is hard to tell from those images.
    Added: especially the reverse.

    Yours is a surprising opinion. On the one hand you state it looks harshly cleaned yet on the other it is "hard to tell" from the images.
    It is a specifically harsh opinion based on a difficult to interpret photos.

  • Morgan13
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    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan13 said:
    My opinion is it looks harshly cleaned but it is hard to tell from those images.
    Added: especially the reverse.

    Yours is a surprising opinion. On the one hand you state it looks harshly cleaned yet on the other it is "hard to tell" from the images.
    It is a specifically harsh opinion based on a difficult to interpret photos.

    We do the best we can with what we got and from those images I see alot of hairlines and they don't look light.
    I'm not seeing the same on the obverse which is why I specifically added from the reverse.

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  • pursuitofliberty
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    Looks cleaned ... so I would not be confident in a straight grade. That doesn't mean it won't get one, but I wouldn't see it in one.

    Based on the images, of course


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  • RedRocket
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    @Morgan13 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan13 said:
    My opinion is it looks harshly cleaned but it is hard to tell from those images.
    Added: especially the reverse.

    Yours is a surprising opinion. On the one hand you state it looks harshly cleaned yet on the other it is "hard to tell" from the images.
    It is a specifically harsh opinion based on a difficult to interpret photos.

    We do the best we can with what we got and from those images I see alot of hairlines and they don't look light.
    I'm not seeing the same on the obverse which is why I specifically added from the reverse.

    Thanks for the explanation.

  • mr1931S
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    Polished to look uncirculated. AU details.

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  • MsMorrisine
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    those are awfully heavy to be hairlines

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  • oldglorycoins
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    Au Details - Cleaned

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  • BigAl
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    @TennesseeDave said:
    Straight grade AU is my guess.

    Agree AU55

  • Steven59
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    @logger7 said:

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    If you crop your pictures it will make the coin bigger and also better to see........(courtesy of @MsMorrisine)

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  • Steven59
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    those are awfully heavy to be hairlines

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    Looks more like "chatter" on the coins fields...........

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  • coastaljerseyguy
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    Might straight grade but it does look dipped with the different luster shades. Wear looks like an AU55.

  • Cougar1978
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    The Morgan believe Will straight grade.

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  • coinbuf
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    Likely to straight grade at PCGS, more likely to get a details grade at CACG.

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  • Cougar1978
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    edited May 5, 2026 10:40AM
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    The Morgan - AU likely cleaned, polished . Put in 2x2 for Junk box?

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  • Cougar1978
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    The Peace Dollar a circ dog w crummy black spots. That one would put in 2x2 for junk box.

    My advise buy crc PCGS or CACG MS64 or higher.

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  • MFeld
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    The Peace Dollar a circ dog w crummy black spots. That one would put in 2x2 for junk box.

    My advise buy crc PCGS or CACG MS64 or higher.

    It’s amusing, but also very sad that a supposed dealer would suggest that a 1921 Peace Dollar belongs in a junk box. Amazing!😕

    And did you consider the possibility that the coin might have been bought to flip or that not everyone is looking for “crc PCGS or CACG MS64 or higher examples”?

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  • MsMorrisine
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    not only it's a 21 worth a couple of hundred or three, but i wouldn't have any 90% in anything called a junk box. sure it's called junk silver, but inside a coin store a junk box has numismatic garbage in it. junk silver, even culls, are better than slick buffs etc

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  • MFeld
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    Cougar1978 Posts: 9,593 ✭✭✭✭✭ May 5, 2026 8:04AM
    The Morgan believe Will straight grade.
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    It looks like you changed your mind a few hours later:

    Cougar1978 Posts: 9,593 ✭✭✭✭✭ May 5, 2026 12:34PM edited May 5, 2026 12:40PM
    The Morgan - AU likely cleaned, polished . Put in 2x2 for Junk box?

    Beware of big ticket raw coins….

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  • coinkat
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    I still am not enthusiastic about the 88-s. Both the 1921 and the 88-s would likely be enjoyed more in the Morgan Dollar and Peace Dollar album of your choice. The 1921 should straight grade likely at 45 with a shot at 50 depending on how it looks in hand.

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  • DesertCoin
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    It will get details

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  • tradedollarnut
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    Looks glossy. Window sill for 3-6 months

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  • nwcoast
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    The Peace Dollar a circ dog w crummy black spots. That one would put in 2x2 for junk box.

    My advise buy crc PCGS or CACG MS64 or higher.

    I’d love to dig through your “junk boxes”!

    And, in answer to the OP’s question; Yes, I think the Morgan would likely straight grade.

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