Trade Dollar, Thoughts and Opinions?

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Walkerguy21D
Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Since there have been a couple of recent threads on trade dollars, I thought I’d post one of mine for the forum’s thoughts.
I generally avoid raw trade dollars, but this one looked pretty honest and was priced very reasonably to me from a dealer I know, about 8 years ago.
Thoughts on grade, genuine, and variety to check for are welcome.

There is a light bluish tone on the obverse when tilted in the light which adds to the attractiveness, imo:


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  • erwindoc
    erwindoc Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is a beautiful coin Greg and can see why you picked it up! Looks to be EF40/VF35 to me, unless it has more luster not shown in the photos, but its not my series.

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That looks like a pleasing XF piece to me and more original than the typical example on the market.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Morgan13
    Morgan13 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it!

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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It is pleasant to view a Trade dollar that is unmolested and original.
    (Terrific photography too! Better than Trueviews. . .)

  • The_Dinosaur_Man
    The_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it. That would look great in an album.

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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Like it, Greg. 40 and if inhand luster blue you mentioned shows easily might push it t99 45. Has a very wholesome, original look.
    Jim


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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @The_Dinosaur_Man said:
    I like it. That would look great in an album.

    Agree!
    I have another in my 7070 that I bought over 20 years that’s decent, I like them both, so I’ve held onto to them rather than selling one off.
    Of course back then you could buy decent circs for ~$150, so it was affordable to do so!

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A very attractive XF40. Nice coin for a type set.

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I got one like it somewhere that's nice like yours. Ill go with a 35 or 40 as well

  • coinkat
    coinkat Posts: 24,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it. I see EF45 and would consider submitting mainly because I just like it.

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a nice original coin with unmolested surfaces.

  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It is a nice coin. It looks like an old time Choice VF which now makes EF-40.

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it! I think it would holder at XF40 if you were to submit....

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  • slider23
    slider23 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭✭
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    Genuine VF35

  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF? Lol As solid a 40 as I’ve ever seen

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  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is graded 35. Honestly, the OP coin should be 45 in comparison

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    EF40. If there were original luster left, I would call it EF45.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @tradedollarnut said:
    VF? Lol As solid a 40 as I’ve ever seen

    It's more your series than mine. But I think the obverse is solidly XF. The reverse is a little more 35ish. I'm not quibbling, but I don't think 35 is a ludicrous as you.

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  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1877 almost always weakly struck on stars and portions of eagle. It’s not wear

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  • tradedollarnut
    tradedollarnut Posts: 20,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The OP coin has significantly less circulation wear than the XF40 example from PCGS websitr


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  • TennesseeDave
    TennesseeDave Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF for sure and well struck for 77-P

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  • DDR
    DDR Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin, I like it. As others have mentioned, the 77 is often weakly struck.

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  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2026 6:14PM
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    Why is it not in a TPG holder?

    It looks real nice but I don’t buy raw material, especially that expensive.

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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    Why is it not in a TPG holder?

    It looks real nice but I don’t buy raw material, especially that expensive.

    I suppose each of us defines "expensive" differently.
    Other than that, it is possible collectors (and Dealers) sell themselves short by not purchasing raw material.
    There are so many wonderful, older collections that have yet been graded that I'd think these collectors (and Dealers) miss out on. Opportunities they are now limiting themselves from.
    Is it because they don't trust their own abilities?

  • oldglorycoins
    oldglorycoins Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
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    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @The_Dinosaur_Man said:
    I like it. That would look great in an album.

    Agree!
    I have another in my 7070 that I bought over 20 years that’s decent, I like them both, so I’ve held onto to them rather than selling one off.
    Of course back then you could buy decent circs for ~$150, so it was affordable to do so!

    You still can, it's called being a dealer

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  • hummingbird_coins
    hummingbird_coins Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @oldglorycoins said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @The_Dinosaur_Man said:
    I like it. That would look great in an album.

    Agree!
    I have another in my 7070 that I bought over 20 years that’s decent, I like them both, so I’ve held onto to them rather than selling one off.
    Of course back then you could buy decent circs for ~$150, so it was affordable to do so!

    You still can, it's called being a dealer

    I would find it concerning if any dealer is buying examples similar to the OP's coin for $150.

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  • oldglorycoins
    oldglorycoins Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
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    Its called dealer-to-dealer wholesale

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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Why is it not in a TPG holder?

    It looks real nice but I don’t buy raw material, especially that expensive.

    🤔 My wild guess is that the coin’s not in a TPG holder because it wasn’t submitted for grading.

    Correct! Most of my raw coins haven’t been submitted for grading 😉.

    The better Walkers and large cents are all holdered, and I’m slowly getting the better AU and Unc Type coins slabbed. The lower grade/lower value circ coins can wait, and I have a lot of them.

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  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Solid, higher-end, XF!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • scotty1419
    scotty1419 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭✭
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    Love that skin.

  • Crypto
    Crypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF40 but not 45 as I don’t see any luster. It’s too bold for VF but there is little price difference so it’s academic

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