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1904 $20 Liberty .. how does this look? It is PCGS with CAC sticker.

orevilleoreville Posts: 12,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,284 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

    how long has cac been stickering? it must be ages. when you crack coin out, do they want the sticker back to correct their database?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a 63 for comparison, after the fact

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 or better. 04’s come nice.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+ to 65.

    The only down side is that it’s most common $20 Liberty date by a considerable margin.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    a 63 for comparison, after the fact

    You think that coin is of the same quality as the one posted by @oreville?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    well it is uglier, but 63 was it. but i've been wrong a lot lately. let's see the reveal.

    market grade: melt

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But to answer your question it looks nice.

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2026 7:39PM

    The coin I bought is an MS-63 only because of the long bagmark on Liberty’s nose.

    It is otherwise a high end MS-64.

    I paid $4620.00 including the juice. Better than buying gold bars. But I have too many of these. I just happen to like the nice quality coins in vintage slabs. Otherwise, too common a date/mm.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not cheat

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:
    The coin I bought is an MS-63 only because of the long bagmark on Liberty’s nose.

    It is otherwise a high end MS-64.

    Unless that mark looks much worse in hand, I seriously doubt it’s the cause of the coin grading only MS63.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 4:10AM

    The grading for these coins used to be very conservative, and the prices were quite high relative to melt, like over $4,000 with a melt of $450. That’s the reason I have an MS-64 graded piece in my collection for the type.

    The grading has gotten a bit loser, the population has increased and the relative value to melt prices are lower. In fact they are much lower because the price of bullion has exploded.

    The same thing has happened with Type I gold dollars.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:
    The coin I bought is an MS-63 only because of the long bagmark on Liberty’s nose.

    It is otherwise a high end MS-64.

    I paid $4620.00 including the juice. Better than buying gold bars. But I have too many of these. I just happen to like the nice quality coins in vintage slabs. Otherwise, too common a date/mm.

    I had the same dilemma. Common date but I love how gold looks in the OGHs:

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2026 5:22AM

    That is a classic example of a Green Label MS-63. It’s why some believe “OGL” slabs are worth a premium.

    BTW it is a very nice MS-63 with great eye appeal for the grade.

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