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buckshot85buckshot85 Posts: 39
edited April 25, 2026 2:17PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Well, I guess the law of averages showed up. I clearly missed identifying this coin and bought it.
It showed up today. Working on a return. I must have been star struck and missed a lot of warning signs.



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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2026 8:47AM

    Bogus as bogus gets, sorry to hear ya got burnt
    Im glad to hear your returning it to

  • @pursuitofliberty said:
    Wow. Sorry to hear. But even before the magnet, that one didn't look good (at least from your images).

    You are right.
    I’ve been known to have small sip of bourbon on a Saturday evening and it looked really pretty for the money. Lol.
    Totally my fault.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How much did you pay?

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  • @Morgan13 said:
    How much did you pay?

    $65

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sucks
    At least your not in for a few hundred.
    Is it from China?

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Curious... was this an ebay purchase? I've noticed quite a number of phoney coins being offered at just over spot silver prices... to the point where I'm not even searching auctions for lightly circulated Morgan Dollars any longer.

    Best of luck... hope you're able to get your money back!

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @pursuitofliberty said:
    Wow. Sorry to hear. But even before the magnet, that one didn't look good (at least from your images).

    You are right.
    I’ve been known to have small sip of bourbon on a Saturday evening and it looked really pretty for the money. Lol.
    Totally my fault.

    :D Hopefully it was a good pour!

    Never, ever done that ... :D

    Well, not quite anyway. I haven't got a fake, yet.


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  • @Morgan13 said:
    Sucks
    At least your not in for a few hundred.
    Is it from China?

    Botswana. Lol

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @Morgan13 said:
    Sucks
    At least your not in for a few hundred.
    Is it from China?

    Botswana. Lol

    Well there you go.....

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
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  • @lkenefic said:
    Curious... was this an ebay purchase? I've noticed quite a number of phoney coins being offered at just over spot silver prices... to the point where I'm not even searching auctions for lightly circulated Morgan Dollars any longer.

    Best of luck... hope you're able to get your money back!

    @lkenefic said:
    Curious... was this an ebay purchase? I've noticed quite a number of phoney coins being offered at just over spot silver prices... to the point where I'm not even searching auctions for lightly circulated Morgan Dollars any longer.

    Best of luck... hope you're able to get your money back!

    It was eBay. I’ve had great luck if I do my part.

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The good thing about EBay is it does not matter if they accept returns, you do not use that -- you use the EBay guarantee and call it fake and attach a few photos.

    That way the seller gets to pay the return postage and you lose nothing at all, other than a little time that gives you an education.

  • Couple of years ago, bought a box of unclaimed packages online. One of the packages had a canvas bag with what was supposed to be 21 "Morgans" in it. Was greatly excited, until I opened it, and they were all stainless steel fakes. Such a bummer when stuff like that happens!

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    why did you take the image(s) away. leave them for educating others

  • buckshot85buckshot85 Posts: 39
    edited April 25, 2026 2:18PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    why did you take the image(s) away. leave them for educating others

    I was informed my address was attached to one and could not figure out how to edit that. I could not see that when I looked at the pics but was messaged by a member letting me know.

    EDIT:
    I reposted. Can anyone see my address?

  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Run Run it’s a magnetic coin !!!!

    On a serious note, always buy in person when it comes to raw coins unless it is a known and reputable online dealer. You have a better chance of sporting a fake with your eyes and your hands than through an online photo. Sorry about your experience, treat it as a learning experience to avoid the same mistakes.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    why did you take the image(s) away. leave them for educating others

    I was informed my address was attached to one and could not figure out how to edit that. I could not see that when I looked at the pics but was messaged by a member letting me know.

    EDIT:
    I reposted. Can anyone see my address?

    You can use a photo editing program to blur it out.

    Like this:

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:
    EDIT:
    I reposted. Can anyone see my address?

    a little bit in the last photo

    did they show a pic of that or a real one? link to ebay auction still active?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    most low grade fakes are plated brass

    they did a bad job plating that one. too heavy

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2026 2:43PM

    and on phones the highlighter tool turned black can over-write it

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the eBay seller used stock photos of a real coin.

    Seller photos:


  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    more and more counterfeits are sold using photos of the real thing

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree, that's significantly different. The difficulty of buying something with "stock" images.


    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Especially suspicious when they have 10+ available with no statement that the coin pictured is the one you will receive.

    Glad you have some recourse and a happy ending!
    Thanks for sharing as this discussion may help others.

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  • safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    ………….

    Botswana. Lol

    I’ll actually be there in three weeks. Guess I need to be on the lookout for a nice 1933 $20 St. Gaudens if the price is right…..🤪😂

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @pursuitofliberty said:
    Wow. Sorry to hear. But even before the magnet, that one didn't look good (at least from your images).

    You are right.
    I’ve been known to have small sip of bourbon on a Saturday evening and it looked really pretty for the money. Lol.
    Totally my fault.

    You know what they about drinking and driving.......maybe you should apply that here, no drinking while buying
    Hope you get your money back

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    The good thing about EBay is it does not matter if they accept returns, you do not use that -- you use the EBay guarantee and call it fake and attach a few photos.

    That way the seller gets to pay the return postage and you lose nothing at all, other than a little time that gives you an education.

    💯

  • eBay denied my claim and said his add does not violate any standards.
    So, I resubmitted it this morning with different pictures and data.
    The seller said he’d send me a return label tomorrow even though his add says no returns. He never argued a thing. Just said ok.

  • SuzeSuze Posts: 47 ✭✭

    You submitted the photo of the magnet and eBay denied that?!
    Also I’m surprised they want it back but glad it’s getting resolved for you. This was an educational post for me, thanks for sharing the story

  • Yes, I sent three of the pics you see above, initially. This morning I sent sent additional with my resubmission.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least you knew how to test it. Some folks buy and just put it away not doing a minimum of checking to see if it's legit. Kudos!

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  • @pmh1nic said:
    At least you knew how to test it. Some folks buy and just put it away not doing a minimum of checking to see if it's legit. Kudos!

    Appreciate the kudos. But, honestly, the kudos goes to forums like this because that’s how I learned.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always helpful to title your thread with descriptive information. This is a forum courtesy, not a rule.

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    running like a water color in the rain...."
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @Morgan13 said:
    Sucks
    At least your not in for a few hundred.
    Is it from China?

    Botswana. Lol

    Thanks. I'll have to remember to not buy any raw silver dollars from Botswana. ;)

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  • @Catbert said:
    Always helpful to title your thread with descriptive information. This is a forum courtesy, not a rule.

    I think it worked out just fine.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:
    Looks like the eBay seller used stock photos of a real coin.

    Seller photos:


    But they also say MORE THAN 10 AVAILABLE

    listing shows 42 sold

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @buckshot85 said:

    @Catbert said:
    Always helpful to title your thread with descriptive information. This is a forum courtesy, not a rule.

    I think it worked out just fine.

    The courtesy is to allow other forum members to decide if they wish to open the thread based upon the content.

    Seated Half Society member #38

    "She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
    running like a water color in the rain...."
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A guy came into the shop with a 2025 Morgan. He bought it in a PCGS holder. It didn’t weigh the same as another , so he cracked it out and asked for a breakdown (analysis) on composition.

    He did not buy on eBay but from a dealer in the Carolinas. Watch your weight.

  • @Catbert said:

    @buckshot85 said:

    @Catbert said:
    Always helpful to title your thread with descriptive information. This is a forum courtesy, not a rule.

    I think it worked out just fine.

    The courtesy is to allow other forum members to decide if they wish to open the thread based upon the content.

    Such a burden to click.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    A guy came into the shop with a 2025 Morgan. He bought it in a PCGS holder. It didn’t weigh the same as another , so he cracked it out and asked for a breakdown (analysis) on composition
    He did not buy on eBay but from a dealer in the Carolinas. Watch your weight.

    got a pic of the label?

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