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1839 Seated Half: Drapery vs No Drapery. How about partial drapery?????

The early state No Drapery type has no drapery below elbow, the later Drapery has 3 added folds of Drapery below the elbow. One coin I have has a single VERY pronounced fold of drapery immediately adjacent to the body. I don't believe the other 2 folds have worn away - it certainly appears the coin was engraved and struck as is. Anyone know anything about partial drapery?? Unfortunately, have a picture but don't have a way to post here.........Anyone?

Craig
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!

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  • SouthcountySouthcounty Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭

    I believe this is generally attributed to clashed dies that give the impression of a single fold of drapery. In Volume V of Bill Bugert's books on seated halves he mentions this about 1839 no drapery halves for WB-1 on page 24 as follows:

    LDS “With-Drapery.” A few LDS examples of this die marriage have what appears to be drapery
    below the elbow on the obverse die. This “drapery” is actually clash lines and can be very
    deceptive. In 11/2015, I noticed an AU53 TPG 1839 of this die marriage that was mislabeled as a
    With-Drapery type. The clash lines below the elbow obviously led the graders astray.

    I actually own the AU53 no drapery example that Bill references and was able to cherry pick it for the price of a with drapery coin.

  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭

    Very interesting...............thank you for your response.

    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2026 1:05PM

    The "partial drapery" thing is nothing more than clashed dies on the die. It's a die state, not a variety. There might well be something like that here. The eagle's wing could be involved.

    A Not Drapery Half Dollar.

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