90% at 100.00
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.
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No - too many variables. My local dealer is capped at $250 face a week to the refiner and is then having to wait 4 weeks to be paid. He is paying 70% of melt. If silver hits $100 and more 90% begins to flood into shops again - expect those numbers to drop
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Yes. On average: 60-65times fv.
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@TwoSides2aCoin said:
Yes. On average: 60-65times fv.That's probably not far off. 60-65 X JUNK is indicative of 84-91 SPOT.
COPPER is gutter !
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Pretty sure gutter won't be hitting $100 again,. That ship has long sailed. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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@blitzdude said:
Pretty sure gutter won't be hitting $100 again,. That ship has long sailed. RGDS!You heard it here. Pretty sure. RGDS.
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I stopped by the LCS I've used for over 20 years on January 29th when silver was trading near 120/oz. He was paying 95/oz on rounds and 50x face on 90%, and selling the 90% at 70x face
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@pragmaticgoat said:
I stopped by the LCS I've used for over 20 years on January 29th when silver was trading near 120/oz. He was paying 95/oz on rounds and 50x face on 90%, and selling the 90% at 70x faceI get that LCS buyers were cutting back their buy offers as rates went up, but that is a pretty crummy buy at 50x face.
When it was a fair amount lower, my LCS paid me at 60x face.
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@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.0 -
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@RedneckHB said:
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
It's going to change again. You know that. Right? I mean saying something like this about ANY moment caught in time means absolutely nothing. Are you trying to spike a football? LOL
COPPER is gutter !
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@RedneckHB said:
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
The sheep certainly don't learn. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
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@blitzdude said:
@RedneckHB said:
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
The sheep certainly don't learn. RGDS!
You have been wrong about absolutely everything. I can't fathom on why you still post here. LOLZzz
All while telling unverifiable stories visiting phantom unnamed shops.TAKE THE POTTERY CLASS hahahah
COPPER is gutter !
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@blitzdude said:
Pretty sure gutter won't be hitting $100 again,. That ship has long sailed. RGDS!See, now I was thinking $100 before we see $40.
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@softparade said:
@RedneckHB said:
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
It's going to change again. You know that. Right? I mean saying something like this about ANY moment caught in time means absolutely nothing. Are you trying to spike a football? LOL
By ANY moment, did you mean anyday in the past 25 years?
What do you mean by "change"? What will change?
Talking about football in a precious metals forum? That is precious. LOLZ.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Sure, that's easy! All else being equal the new price would reflect a lower discount, perhaps significantly. Of course direction is controlled by complex forces some of which have yet to occur. Of course the time, nature and magnitude of some processes can have oversized effects on how things transpire. Conversely all things being equal there could be larger discounts in the event prices decline.
I'm guessing that when silver moves there will be no sellers, only buyers.
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By definition, for every buyer there must be a seller, even if only naked selling.
Based on my interpretation of Elliott Wave, I don't see $100 coming back any time soon, just continued lower highs. Though if silver does spike up on a retracement, I don't expect it to hold.
@cladking said:
I'm guessing that when silver moves there will be no sellers, only buyers.
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@RedneckHB said:
@softparade said:
@RedneckHB said:
@Relaxn said:
@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.Yes of course there is
.6615 x spot is low end buy price
.7715 x spot is typical high end buy price.Imagine if someone said 5 years ago that 90% would trade a discount of 25-35% below spot. The uproar would have been ear shattering and the laughing emoji's rolling around like a bag of spilled marbles.
It's going to change again. You know that. Right? I mean saying something like this about ANY moment caught in time means absolutely nothing. Are you trying to spike a football? LOL
By ANY moment, did you mean anyday in the past 25 years?
What do you mean by "change"? What will change?
Talking about football in a precious metals forum? That is precious. LOLZ.
football and fertilizer. Whooo Hooo
COPPER is gutter !
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@edsondl said:
By definition, for every buyer there must be a seller, even if only naked selling.Based on my interpretation of Elliott Wave, I don't see $100 coming back any time soon, just continued lower highs. Though if silver does spike up on a retracement, I don't expect it to hold.
@cladking said:
I'm guessing that when silver moves there will be no sellers, only buyers.
No. You're talking about papers markets. No paper can sell without a buyer and seller. In the real world buyers climb a wall of worry and sellers get adventurous. Not every deal is sealed because they can't agree on a price. When prices are running higher most people are physical buyers who would buy if the price is right instead of selling. But those buying are afraid of the higher prices and lag real time.
This is what i call all buyers and no sellers. Metal is trading only because there is no choice. Everyone would rather buy than sell. Price is set at the extremes.
Copilot (above as prompt)-
_No. You’re talking about paper markets. Paper can’t move without a buyer and
a seller because the system is defined that way. That’s not how the real
world works.In the physical market buyers climb a wall of worry and sellers get
adventurous. Not every deal is sealed because the two sides can’t agree on a
price. When prices are running higher, most people are physical buyers who
would buy if the price is right instead of selling. But the buyers are
afraid of the higher prices and they lag real time.This is what I mean by “all buyers and no sellers.”
Metal is trading only because there is no choice. Everyone would rather buy
than sell. The only metal that moves is the metal that must move.Price is set at the extremes, not in the middle.
It’s set by the people who have no choice — the ones who must buy or must
sell. That’s the real market. Paper markets are just abstractions layered on
top of it.You can use Elliott Wave if you want, but waves don’t move metal. People do.
And when the physical market tightens, the behavior changes long before the
charts do._tempus fugit extra philosophiam.0 -
I buy and sell offline. I just type here.
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Today it’s .900 at $79.61, up $4 on the day.
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@fleaseyelash said:
Is it possible to tell how much the average dealer would pay per dollar for 90% when silver hits $100.00 again.$57.23 for 90%
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A financial analyst from a major firm (forget which firm) opined that silver would rise to over $300 per ounce. This was a few weeks ago. I don"t think I believe him.
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@Glen2022 said:
A financial analyst from a major firm (forget which firm) opined that silver would rise to over $300 per ounce. This was a few weeks ago. I don"t think I believe him.In what time horizon?
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$300 by the end of the year.
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@scotty1419 said:
@Glen2022 said:
A financial analyst from a major firm (forget which firm) opined that silver would rise to over $300 per ounce. This was a few weeks ago. I don"t think I believe him.In what time horizon?
How about NEVER? RGDS!
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BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
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@blitzdude said:
@scotty1419 said:
@Glen2022 said:
A financial analyst from a major firm (forget which firm) opined that silver would rise to over $300 per ounce. This was a few weeks ago. I don"t think I believe him.In what time horizon?
How about NEVER? RGDS!
I'd feel pretty confident in the bet by 2075. By December 2026, ehhhh
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.> @Harlequin said:
@Glen2022 said:
$300 by the end of the year.Highly unlikely but I wonder how the markets (and pm collectors) would react if that happened...... wow !!!
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.
Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
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@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
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You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
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You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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Lol. No...I was responding to Harlequins question of how investors would react if silver hit 300.
I posited that collectors would say silver is going to 500. They would be saying this as they wouldn't even be able to get 200 for it (when it was at 300).
I didnt say they would only get 200 for it if it was at 500.
And someone even agreed with you!!! Haha.
Merica!!
Context....the great mystery of American Society.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@RedneckHB said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
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You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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Lol. No...I was responding to Harlequins question of how investors would react if silver hit 300.
I posited that collectors would say silver is going to 500. They would be saying this as they wouldn't even be able to get 200 for it (when it was at 300).
I didnt say they would only get 200 for it if it was at 500.
And someone even agreed with you!!! Haha.
Merica!!
Context....the great mystery of American Society.
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If you can't accurately articulate what you meant, then that is your failing, not "Merica's" problem.
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@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
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You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
COPPER is gutter !
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@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
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You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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Lol. No...I was responding to Harlequins question of how investors would react if silver hit 300.
I posited that collectors would say silver is going to 500. They would be saying this as they wouldn't even be able to get 200 for it (when it was at 300).
I didnt say they would only get 200 for it if it was at 500.
And someone even agreed with you!!! Haha.
Merica!!
Context....the great mystery of American Society.
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If you can't accurately articulate what you meant, then that is your failing, not "Merica's" problem.
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Perhaps if ones views are not clouded by hubris, bias and contempt, then comprehension becomes much better?
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@softparade said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
.
You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
.
CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
It already has a baseball card forum.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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I was responding to Harlequins question of how investors would react if silver hit 300.
I posited that collectors would say silver is going to 500. They would be saying this as they wouldn't even be able to get 200 for it (when it was at 300).
I didnt say they would only get 200 for it if it was at 500.
Same difference. Did you take less than 66.66% of spot for your 100 oz. bar? Of course not.
Your commentary boils down to a slam on anyone who think silver is going to $500 (although nobody here has said that.)
Aside from being wrong about what collectors will be able to sell silver for when spot is at $300, it appears that you are the only one whose judgement is "clouded by hubris, bias and contempt" when you trivialize "collectors" or anyone else that thinks silver is a good speculation.
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@RedneckHB said:
@softparade said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
.
You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
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CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
It already has a baseball card forum.
Cardboard outperforms PM's in many instances.
COPPER is gutter !
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@jmski52 said:
I was responding to Harlequins question of how investors would react if silver hit 300.I posited that collectors would say silver is going to 500. They would be saying this as they wouldn't even be able to get 200 for it (when it was at 300).
I didnt say they would only get 200 for it if it was at 500.
Same difference. Did you take less than 66.66% of spot for your 100 oz. bar? Of course not.
Your commentary boils down to a slam on anyone who think silver is going to $500 (although nobody here has said that.)
Aside from being wrong about what collectors will be able to sell silver for when spot is at $300, it appears that you are the only one whose judgement is "clouded by hubris, bias and contempt" when you trivialize "collectors" or anyone else that thinks silver is a good speculation.
You make bizarre assumptions which are based on your biased and contemptuous opinions. Tell me how im "wrong" about something that hasn't happened? You've of the ilk that believe silver dropped 200%.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@softparade said:
@RedneckHB said:
@softparade said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
.
You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
.
CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
It already has a baseball card forum.
Cardboard outperforms PM's in many instances.
Eh.....its pretty good for soil amendment but cant hold a candle to chicken or cow manure. But, yeah, better than adding AU or AG...that stuff just sits there. Adds nothing to the corn yield.
Excuses are tools of the ignorantKnowledge is the enemy of fear
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@RedneckHB said:
@softparade said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
.
You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
.
CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
It already has a baseball card forum.
Ole Diamond hands should waddle it's way back over to the pokemon forum. His $120 gutter purchases aren't going so well. LuLZ!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
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@blitzdude said:
@RedneckHB said:
@softparade said:
@dcarr said:
@RedneckHB said:
@jmski52 said:
Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200.Did you sell your 100 oz. bar for 40% of spot? I don't think so.
Nowhere did I imply folk would get 40% of spot. Please reread.
.
You stated as much outright.
"Collectors would say its going to 500 all the while being unable to sell for 200"$200 is exactly 40% of $500.
.
CU needs a fertilizer sub forum
It already has a baseball card forum.
Ole Diamond hands should waddle it's way back over to the pokemon forum. His $120 gutter purchases aren't going so well. LuLZ!
The swimmers in my nuts have more knowledge of the silver market than you. lolz
COPPER is gutter !
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