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1806 Half Cent Attribution

AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

What do you think?

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2026 7:17PM

    Calling @jesbroken who has studied the early half cents extensively.

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭

    Can't remember the Cohen variety off hand, but it's the stemless reverse, so one of the two common varieties. (It's easy to forget the details of the common varieties)

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    C-1, common variety.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I think it is the Small 6, Stemless, C-1, which is the most common variety for the year. The other common variety is C-4, Large 6, Stems. The Small 6 Stems is a tough variety with two sub varieties which are very hard to differentiate. One is tough, and the other one is virtually impossible to obtain.

    The stemless reverse die was one tough cookie. It lasted to make the most common varieties for 1804 (C-13), 1805 (C-1) and 1806 (C-1) half cents, all R-1 varieties. Now you probably know more than you wanted to know.

    I collected half cent die varieties from the mid 1980s to the mid ‘90s. I knew Roger Cohen pretty well. He was a great, down to earth, guy.

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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the confirmation. Draped Bust LCs are my series but I'm increasingly drawn to the Half Cents. I know this one isn't special but I'll see if I can get it cheap.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • GuzziSportGuzziSport Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love early half cents, perhaps my favorite niche. I know he’s controversial, but Breens Encyclopedia of Half Cents was my favorite coin reference many years ago.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GuzziSport said:
    Love early half cents, perhaps my favorite niche. I know he’s controversial, but Breens Encyclopedia of Half Cents was my favorite coin reference many years ago.

    The Breen Encyclopedia is quite good. Its publication resulted in a lot of controversy within the EAC community. Breen and Cohen had a very public fight, and some collectors were miffed when their coins didn’t get in Breen’s condition census list. Someone else other than Breen compiled the list, and they didn’t have perfect information.

    I think that half cents are better looking than their large cent counterparts. The trouble is there are many holes in the date runs where no coins were struck or they are so rare most of us can’t afford them.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a sweet coin! That’s a type I still need…

    My friend just got one in a 63! 🤤

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry been ill for last few days, but I do agree with the C-1.
    Jim


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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here a couple more 1806 half cents. This is the more common 1806, Small 6, Stems variety. This used to be the finest known and the discovery piece for the variety, dating back to the 1880s. It was in Leland Rogers' collection at one time. After Leland's collection was broken up, it was sold, and some fool cleaned it. It was expertly retoned.

    I suppose I could not have affore it if it had not beenn worked on. I sold it to a dealer who held it for a few years. He told me he sold it to help pay for his kid's college. Maybe I sold it too cheap. LOL. It was not cheap. I got $3k for it almost 30 years ago.

    Here is the 1806, large 6 stems. This is a hoard coin. The Chatman Brothers were supposed to have a keg of them in Unc.! They aren't quite that common now. I think that this coin is under rated in the circulated grades as an R-1. I had trouble finding a nice VF or EF which were my target grades in the 1980s. I finally bought this Unc.. It's now in an MS-62 holder.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its easy enough to get caught up in the half cents. Im looking into a 1805 and hopefully a rosa americana (open eye along the way)

  • Looks like a rotated die on reverse about 30 degrees if you flipped it over. I really like the early half cents and for fortunate to pick this one up with a mint error. I’ve only seen one other like it sold at auction years ago.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2026 11:11AM

    @mikaren99 said:
    Looks like a rotated die on reverse about 30 degrees if you flipped it over. I really like the early half cents and for fortunate to pick this one up with a mint error. I’ve only seen one other like it sold at auction years ago.

    Rotated dies don’t mean much of anything on early half cents. All of the 1808 normal date half cents I have seen were rotated 180 degrees.

    The piece in the picture is an 1804 C-13, Plain 4, Stemless, which is the most common early half cents, if not not the most common half cent of all.

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