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How do you think the controversies around 2026 coin design are likey to affect collector value?

I'd be interested in hearing various opinions and/or speculations related to this. For example, could controversies such as the olive branch being deleted from the dime lead to a short run if the design is changed, and make those coins really valuable?

I respectfully request we not turn this into an overly political discussion and we all hold respect for others opinions. Thanks.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are specifically asking about the olive branch on the dime then I will state that there will not be a design change.

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  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    >

    Besides, no one outside of coin collectors even knows what's on our coins even on the rare occassions when they see any.

    100% agree

  • RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:

    @JBK said:

    >

    Besides, no one outside of coin collectors even knows what's on our coins even on the rare occassions when they see any.

    100% agree

    85% agree.
    A few non-collectors do.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2026 8:34AM

    No impact. Will just refer to CDN.

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:

    @JBK said:

    >

    Besides, no one outside of coin collectors even knows what's on our coins even on the rare occassions when they see any.

    100% agree

    Now the Olive branch thread you started makes even less sense to me.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:

    @Russell12 said:

    @JBK said:

    >

    Besides, no one outside of coin collectors even knows what's on our coins even on the rare occassions when they see any.

    100% agree

    Now the Olive branch thread you started makes even less sense to me.

    Perhaps we could start a separate thread to discuss the nature of this thread?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No impact.

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  • RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    No impact.

    @Cougar1978 said:
    No impact.

    :#:#

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some average citizens will notice the dime and set aside one or two. The quarter will blend into the dozens of different designs. The half will never be seen by the average person.

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ambro51 said:
    Some average citizens will notice the dime and set aside one or two. The quarter will blend into the dozens of different designs. The half will never be seen by the average person.

    That is true but sad, the half is a nice design for a change.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    New designs usually bring out strong hobby interest.

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  • EbeneezerEbeneezer Posts: 387 ✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2026 9:00AM

    If anything, the across the board price increase is far worse. How many younger collectors do you suppose are going to have any? And this is the future of our hobby. This and the cent ending only leads to troubling times ahead.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2026 10:12AM

    I’ve generally stayed away from politically charged threads on the coin boards, but I think the discussion around the 2026 designs raises a legitimate numismatic question:

    How (if at all) do design controversies affect long-term collector value? At the end of the day, what makes a coin desirable or even “rare” hasn’t really changed:

    Availability / Mintage / Survival
    Variety or uniqueness
    Eye appeal / design preference
    Bullion content (where applicable)

    For modern circulating coinage (dimes, quarters, halves), we’re still talking about mass production at scale, 100’s of millions to billions, with limited circulation (especially halves). That alone tends to limit true scarcity. My sense is that 2026 issues may ultimately fall into the category of 1- A one-year type for collectors; 2- Possibly a short-term novelty bump in interest, but not something that fundamentally changes “rarity” status. Even if a particular segment of the population finds certain designs especially appealing, the math doesn’t really translate into scarcity when you’re dealing with hundreds of millions to billions of coins struck.

    On a related note, I’ve taken a bit of a hiatus from early copper lately. The pieces I’m pursuing are legitimately scarce and expensive even in lower grades. It gets a little tough writing four-figure checks for AG-3 Details coins. That’s what led me to a slight detour into Hard Times Tokens. These early-to-mid 19th century pieces are tangible history, and they can often be found in AU–MS for $100–$200 or so, with very attractive VF–XF examples readily available. Yes, there are true rarities with low mintages or limited surviving populations but here’s the interesting part: there are also far fewer collectors actively pursuing Hard Times Tokens, so the collector base supporting prices remains relatively small (at least for the moment 😉 ). So you end up with this nice intersection of:

    Historical significance
    Strong eye appeal (often in higher grades)
    Relative affordability

    Which kind of reinforces the broader point… controversy doesn’t create rarity, scarcity (and demand) does. Modern issues may generate discussion… and maybe even short-term interest…but long-term value still comes back to fundamentals.

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  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    They’re not so bad, certainly nothing to get MAD about 😉

    I see what you did there . . .

  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:

    @Russell12 said:

    @JBK said:

    >

    Besides, no one outside of coin collectors even knows what's on our coins even on the rare occassions when they see any.

    100% agree

    Now the Olive branch thread you started makes even less sense to me.

    ...not familiar with that thread...

  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:

    @TomB said:
    If you are specifically asking about the olive branch on the dime then I will state that there will not be a design change.

    A pretty good bet since they are already circulating.

    Why do people try to make everything political now, I mean the artist apparently was thinking of the revolutionary period when this was designed quite a while back.

    I find it a big improvement over the tiresome Roosevelt that will hopefully be replaced. We need to get over dead Presidents and get back to beautiful classic designs that show artistry that is apolitical.

    ...''get back to beautiful classic designs that show artistry that is apolitical''. Great thought.

  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:
    I’ve generally stayed away from politically charged threads on the coin boards, but I think the discussion around the 2026 designs raises a legitimate numismatic question:

    How (if at all) do design controversies affect long-term collector value? At the end of the day, what makes a coin desirable or even “rare” hasn’t really changed:

    Availability / Mintage / Survival
    Variety or uniqueness
    Eye appeal / design preference
    Bullion content (where applicable)

    For modern circulating coinage (dimes, quarters, halves), we’re still talking about mass production at scale, 100’s of millions to billions, with limited circulation (especially halves). That alone tends to limit true scarcity. My sense is that 2026 issues may ultimately fall into the category of 1- A one-year type for collectors; 2- Possibly a short-term novelty bump in interest, but not something that fundamentally changes “rarity” status. Even if a particular segment of the population finds certain designs especially appealing, the math doesn’t really translate into scarcity when you’re dealing with hundreds of millions to billions of coins struck.

    On a related note, I’ve taken a bit of a hiatus from early copper lately. The pieces I’m pursuing are legitimately scarce and expensive even in lower grades. It gets a little tough writing four-figure checks for AG-3 Details coins. That’s what led me to a slight detour into Hard Times Tokens. These early-to-mid 19th century pieces are tangible history, and they can often be found in AU–MS for $100–$200 or so, with very attractive VF–XF examples readily available. Yes, there are true rarities with low mintages or limited surviving populations but here’s the interesting part: there are also far fewer collectors actively pursuing Hard Times Tokens, so the collector base supporting prices remains relatively small (at least for the moment 😉 ). So you end up with this nice intersection of:

    Historical significance
    Strong eye appeal (often in higher grades)
    Relative affordability

    Which kind of reinforces the broader point… controversy doesn’t create rarity, scarcity (and demand) does. Modern issues may generate discussion… and maybe even short-term interest…but long-term value still comes back to fundamentals.

    Very clarifying and well said. Thank you.

  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    They’re not so bad, certainly nothing to get MAD about 😉

    Okay, this is just plain hilarious....

  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2026 8:27AM

    Thanks so much for all the comments. Primary take-away for me; the hubris over the design changes net impact on collectabilty and value will be nil, and what traditionally affects value over the long term will.

    Also if I were to give an award for best post in forum history , Mr. Spud get's the prize hands down.

  • DesertCoinDesertCoin Posts: 193 ✭✭✭

    No impact, the controversy is largely due to a single left-leaning news outlet picking up on the absence of an olive branch on the new dime. It has been debunked that the current administration had any influence over the design choice. Whatever controversy exists will quickly fade as better clickbait comes around. Long term, they are all more or less aesthetically pleasing designs that will be collected alongside the rest of modern coinage without significant discrimination.

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  • nickelsciolistnickelsciolist Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2026 2:23PM

    One of the things I'd be curious to see is if there might be a short run, as with the early ''no VDB'' Lincoln...as in the ''no olive branch'' dime. Apparently people didn't like Brenners initials on there, hence the short run which resulted in the 09 s vdb being such a scarce and valuable coin. Seems like the general concensus is probably not gonna happen with the 26 dime and the olive branch getting added.

    Another interesting fact regarding the ''rumor mill'' about the intent of the design change on the dime...I understand there was at least some amount of ''red scare'' conjecture that designer John Simock's initials on the Roosevelt Dime stood for '' Joseph Stalin''. Almost had another one there, it sounds like.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The way things are going with cash, I never see any coins anyway. I do everything with credit cards.

    I won't see any of the new coins, except the quarter which I saw at a coin show, until I get a silver Proof set, which is supposed to be released this month.

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  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For those that are stating that these controversies over aspects of coin design are a uniquely modern phenomenon, may I remind you of the following events whereby a public uproar resulted in alterations to coinage design:

    1. The "V.D.B." initials controversy of the 1909 Lincoln cent
    2. The drapery (or lack thereof) controversy of the Type 1 Standing Liberty Quarter
    3. The broken sword controversy of the 1921 Peace Dollar

    I'm sure there are many others...

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,229 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is also one other example that is much more recent. The first several years if the Presidential dollar coins had "In God We Trust" appeared on the edge. After some complaints there was legislation enacted that required the motto to be placed on the obverse or reverse.

    In any case, there full absolutely be no changes to the one-year design of the dime.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The way things are going with cash, I never see any coins anyway. I do everything with credit cards.

    I won't see any of the new coins, except the quarter which I saw at a coin show, until I get a silver Proof set, which is supposed to be released this month.

    :/

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