I bought this coin in 2014 via eBay, and since I’ve had it, it has traveled MANY thousands of miles. Here are those steps, and yes, this proves how crazy I am, since I doubt many of you would have done the same had you had this coin:
I bought it as MS64+with a CAC sticker. In late 2018 I decided to send it to PCGS via Reconsideration, despite the dark mark on the reverse. Everything else about the coin was spectacular for the grade, and that mark did not bother me. The coin came back upgraded to MS65.
Since this was a new numerical grade, even though the cert number remained the same, it had to qualify as “solid as a 65” when I sent it back to CAC to hopefully get the sticker applied. Success! It got stickered again, this time as a 65.
Not fully satisfied, I then sent it back to PCGS, but this time for Restoration, to see what they could do about that black mark. According to the best guess of Fred Weinberg, this was a result of a bad mix in the planchet strip. They were able to make it a little thinner and a little lighter. See my blurred photos of that mark, before and after. It came back in the same grade, but as noted very slightly better. That’s holder #2 for me. Also a new cert number, since it underwent Restoration, even though the grade remained the same 65 as before.
It now had to go back to CAC, since Restoration work was done, and it had a new cert number. Fortunately, they stickered it again as a 65, confirming that “no damage” had been done to the coin via Restoration.
Still not satisfied, lol, I then sent it back to PCGS for Reconsideration, and lo and behold, despite that mark, they upgraded it with a plus.
Back to CAC again, but this time it was automatic restickering, since the cert number remained the same, and the only change in grade was having a plus added, which CAC (not CACG) ignores.
I'm now DONE with trying to maximize value with this coin!
Here she is:
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
Great story @winesteven although I have a feeling it will resonate with more people than you may think. I prefer to think of us as not crazy but passionate about our collection.
Here is my favorite $20 lib which serves as my type set example:
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Today is Sunday March 29th. The last gold coin for this thread - the $20 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle, 1907 - 1933. After today, we pick up several non-gold designs/denominations not yet covered.
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
Good morning. Today is Monday March 30th. Following the order of the PCGS Registry Dansco 7070, we now go back to the remaining eight non-gold designs.
For today, we have the Bicentennial Quarter (1976). You can show any or all Clad, Silver, MS or Proof, but they must be Quarters with the Bicentennial design.
Here are my two proofs, one Silver, the other Clad:
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
Very nice. I love your set and I’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your 58s. Curious as to the rough % of coins in your set that you’ve personally “made” with our hosts…..?
Not a lot of bicentennial material in 58 to be had where I do my shopping.
Very nice. I love your set and I’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your 58s. Curious as to the rough % of coins in your set that you’ve personally “made” with our hosts…..?
Not a lot of bicentennial material in 58 to be had where I do my shopping.
I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.
I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.
That takes some ninja level patience. I only maintain one set (peace dollars) in AU58 and those 24 coins are tough enough to find worthy examples. Respect.
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.
That takes some ninja level patience. I only maintain one set (peace dollars) in AU58 and those 24 coins are tough enough to find worthy examples. Respect.
Sometimes I have to pay more than what they are worth, people try to get their slabbing money back, but still dirt cheap in comparison with the 19th Century AU58s that are my main focus. And with the profits I make on bullion that I stocked up on 20 years ago and/or from selling off MS coins I slabbed myself, it’s like I’m spending free money on them
Sometimes I have to pay more than what they are worth, people try to get their slabbing money back, but still dirt cheap in comparison with the 19th Century AU58s that are my main focus.
Yeah, it's funny, folks who slab lots of raw coins hate getting them back at AU58, while I'm in the background rubbing my hands together, plotting, and trying to find their ebay store. LOL
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
I guess I did still have a play in this thread. Thanks @johnny9434 .
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Let me play catchup, since I was absent for a few days.
March 29th: here's my Saint.
March 30th: here's my Bicentennial quarter(s). I had to go back to my old early-2000s Registry type set, with the terrible scans. There were both clad and silver variants in that.
March 31st: here are my Bicentennial halves, from the same old type set.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Our next type is the Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar (1976).
Again, I have to go back to my old 20th century type set from the early 2000s, with the scanned images. That set called for both the silver and clad versions.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Brings back a fond memory. Bear with me as I go off on a slight tangent, and down Memory Lane.
When I was a kid, back in the late '70s and very early '80s, my grandfather would have one big birthday party in the summertime for all of his grandchildren, up at his mountain farm in North Carolina. There would be lots of fun entertainment and nice gifts for all of us. (I still have two of the collector knives he gave me. One of them- a Randall- is worth a few hundred bucks now.)
Anyway, one June, for the grandchildren's party, Granddaddy took a big old wooden horse trough from the apple barn. It was not very high off the ground but was really long. He filled it with white sand. Buried in the sand were dozens and dozens of Bicentennial Ike dollars. He stood at the end of the trough with a stopwatch, and each of us grandkids were given an allotted amount of time to dig and sift through the sand to see how many coins we could scoop up. I think we were given something like one minute on the clock (the littler kids were given a bit longer). I forget how many Ikes I found. Maybe a dozen or so.
Anyway, if you'll forgive the brief digression, here's Granddaddy's WW2 deployment medal, and a picture of him from one of those parties at the farm.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Brings back a fond memory. Bear with me as I go off on a slight tangent, and down Memory Lane.
When I was a kid, back in the late '70s and very early '80s, my grandfather would have one big birthday party in the summertime for all of his grandchildren, up at his mountain farm in North Carolina. There would be lots of fun entertainment and nice gifts for all of us. (I still have two of the collector knives he gave me. One of them- a Randall- is worth a few hundred bucks now.)
Anyway, one June, for the grandchildren's party, Granddaddy took a big old wooden horse trough from the apple barn. It was not very high off the ground but was really long. He filled it with white sand. Buried in the sand were dozens and dozens of Bicentennial Ike dollars. He stood at the end of the trough with a stopwatch, and each of us grandkids were given an allotted amount of time to dig and sift through the sand to see how many coins we could scoop up. I think we were given something like one minute on the clock (the littler kids were given a bit longer). I forget how many Ikes I found. Maybe a dozen or so.
Anyway, if you'll forgive the brief digression, here's Granddaddy's WW2 deployment medal, and a picture of him from one of those parties at the farm.
I love it! What a phenomenal story, personalized employer medal, and most importantly, memories!
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
I have an AU58 in my Circulated 7070 Type sets, but I don’t yet have a picture, so here’s a screenshot from the Cert Verication page
And, for a twist, here’s one I carried as a pocket piece before submitting it to PCGS in hopes of getting an AU58, but instead it came back as MS63. This was before I found the AU58 on eBay
Comments
I bought this coin in 2014 via eBay, and since I’ve had it, it has traveled MANY thousands of miles. Here are those steps, and yes, this proves how crazy I am, since I doubt many of you would have done the same had you had this coin:
I'm now DONE with trying to maximize value with this coin!
Here she is:
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Great story @winesteven although I have a feeling it will resonate with more people than you may think. I prefer to think of us as not crazy but passionate about our collection.
Here is my favorite $20 lib which serves as my type set example:
Probably my last play in this thread.
Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
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Today is Sunday March 29th. The last gold coin for this thread - the $20 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle, 1907 - 1933. After today, we pick up several non-gold designs/denominations not yet covered.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Never say never 👍
from BST
Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set
successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), DesertMoon, Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)
Casual collector slowly building a collection....
Mr_Spud
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Gold page from the 7070 album
Good morning. Today is Monday March 30th. Following the order of the PCGS Registry Dansco 7070, we now go back to the remaining eight non-gold designs.
For today, we have the Bicentennial Quarter (1976). You can show any or all Clad, Silver, MS or Proof, but they must be Quarters with the Bicentennial design.
Here are my two proofs, one Silver, the other Clad:
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
MS 67
Here are my two type examples:
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
PR69 DCAM Silver from the bay
Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set
successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), DesertMoon, Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)
Buy the plastic—
Proof Silver Clad
Casual collector slowly building a collection....
Mr_Spud
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
Very nice. I love your set and I’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your 58s. Curious as to the rough % of coins in your set that you’ve personally “made” with our hosts…..?
Not a lot of bicentennial material in 58 to be had where I do my shopping.
I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.
Mr_Spud
That takes some ninja level patience. I only maintain one set (peace dollars) in AU58 and those 24 coins are tough enough to find worthy examples. Respect.
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
Sometimes I have to pay more than what they are worth, people try to get their slabbing money back, but still dirt cheap in comparison with the 19th Century AU58s that are my main focus. And with the profits I make on bullion that I stocked up on 20 years ago and/or from selling off MS coins I slabbed myself, it’s like I’m spending free money on them
Mr_Spud
Yeah, it's funny, folks who slab lots of raw coins hate getting them back at AU58, while I'm in the background rubbing my hands together, plotting, and trying to find their ebay store. LOL
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
I guess I did still have a play in this thread. Thanks @johnny9434 .
Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
https://www.donahuenumismatics.com/.
Today is Tuesday March 31, and today we show our 1976 Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollars.
I bought mine from Monster Coin Mart in 2016, when Justin Spivak just started that firm.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
MS 66
I love the toning!
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
MS65 Silver from BST. While a target for a potential upgrade ... I was drawn by the toning of this example.
Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set
successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), DesertMoon, Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
Mr_Spud
such elegant consistency @Mr_Spud !!!
Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set
successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), DesertMoon, Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.
Tommy
Let me play catchup, since I was absent for a few days.
March 29th: here's my Saint.
March 30th: here's my Bicentennial quarter(s). I had to go back to my old early-2000s Registry type set, with the terrible scans. There were both clad and silver variants in that.
March 31st: here are my Bicentennial halves, from the same old type set.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Good morning. It is April 1st.
Our next type is the Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar (1976).
Again, I have to go back to my old 20th century type set from the early 2000s, with the scanned images. That set called for both the silver and clad versions.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
Bicentennial Ike dollars.
Brings back a fond memory. Bear with me as I go off on a slight tangent, and down Memory Lane.
When I was a kid, back in the late '70s and very early '80s, my grandfather would have one big birthday party in the summertime for all of his grandchildren, up at his mountain farm in North Carolina. There would be lots of fun entertainment and nice gifts for all of us. (I still have two of the collector knives he gave me. One of them- a Randall- is worth a few hundred bucks now.)
Anyway, one June, for the grandchildren's party, Granddaddy took a big old wooden horse trough from the apple barn. It was not very high off the ground but was really long. He filled it with white sand. Buried in the sand were dozens and dozens of Bicentennial Ike dollars. He stood at the end of the trough with a stopwatch, and each of us grandkids were given an allotted amount of time to dig and sift through the sand to see how many coins we could scoop up. I think we were given something like one minute on the clock (the littler kids were given a bit longer). I forget how many Ikes I found. Maybe a dozen or so.
Anyway, if you'll forgive the brief digression, here's Granddaddy's WW2 deployment medal, and a picture of him from one of those parties at the farm.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
I love it! What a phenomenal story, personalized employer medal, and most importantly, memories!
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
MS 65
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Newbie collector of type and circulated Peace dollars, photographer of places and animals, player of instruments and builder of amplifiers, espresso industry professional, and a person distracted by shiny objects. https://mycollect.com/Rule556/sets
PR69DCAM photos courtesy of @robec
@lordmarcovan - great story and memories !!
Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set
successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), DesertMoon, Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)
I have an AU58 in my Circulated 7070 Type sets, but I don’t yet have a picture, so here’s a screenshot from the Cert Verication page
And, for a twist, here’s one I carried as a pocket piece before submitting it to PCGS in hopes of getting an AU58, but instead it came back as MS63. This was before I found the AU58 on eBay
Mr_Spud