The Collaborative "Virtual 7070" Type Set Project

winesteven · March 28, 2026 8:36AM

I bought this coin in 2014 via eBay, and since I’ve had it, it has traveled MANY thousands of miles. Here are those steps, and yes, this proves how crazy I am, since I doubt many of you would have done the same had you had this coin:

I bought it as MS64+with a CAC sticker. In late 2018 I decided to send it to PCGS via Reconsideration, despite the dark mark on the reverse. Everything else about the coin was spectacular for the grade, and that mark did not bother me. The coin came back upgraded to MS65.
Since this was a new numerical grade, even though the cert number remained the same, it had to qualify as “solid as a 65” when I sent it back to CAC to hopefully get the sticker applied. Success! It got stickered again, this time as a 65.
Not fully satisfied, I then sent it back to PCGS, but this time for Restoration, to see what they could do about that black mark. According to the best guess of Fred Weinberg, this was a result of a bad mix in the planchet strip. They were able to make it a little thinner and a little lighter. See my blurred photos of that mark, before and after. It came back in the same grade, but as noted very slightly better. That’s holder #2 for me. Also a new cert number, since it underwent Restoration, even though the grade remained the same 65 as before.
It now had to go back to CAC, since Restoration work was done, and it had a new cert number. Fortunately, they stickered it again as a 65, confirming that “no damage” had been done to the coin via Restoration.
Still not satisfied, lol, I then sent it back to PCGS for Reconsideration, and lo and behold, despite that mark, they upgraded it with a plus.
Back to CAC again, but this time it was automatic restickering, since the cert number remained the same, and the only change in grade was having a plus added, which CAC (not CACG) ignores.

I'm now DONE with trying to maximize value with this coin!

Here she is:

Steve

TheMayor · March 28, 2026 9:24AM

Great story @winesteven although I have a feeling it will resonate with more people than you may think. I prefer to think of us as not crazy but passionate about our collection.

Here is my favorite $20 lib which serves as my type set example:

The_Dinosaur_Man · March 28, 2026 4:06PM

Probably my last play in this thread.

winesteven · March 29, 2026 2:20AM

Today is Sunday March 29th. The last gold coin for this thread - the $20 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle, 1907 - 1933. After today, we pick up several non-gold designs/denominations not yet covered.

Steve

johnny9434 · March 29, 2026 2:36AM

@The_Dinosaur_Man said:
Probably my last play in this thread.

Never say never 👍

calgolddiver · March 29, 2026 4:24AM

from BST

normmalin · March 29, 2026 6:48AM

Mr_Spud · March 29, 2026 7:55AM

lkenefic · March 29, 2026 8:00AM

coinbuf · March 29, 2026 3:05PM

TheMayor · March 29, 2026 5:55PM

coinhack · March 29, 2026 10:09PM

Gold page from the 7070 album

winesteven · March 30, 2026 1:24AM

Good morning. Today is Monday March 30th. Following the order of the PCGS Registry Dansco 7070, we now go back to the remaining eight non-gold designs.

For today, we have the Bicentennial Quarter (1976). You can show any or all Clad, Silver, MS or Proof, but they must be Quarters with the Bicentennial design.

Here are my two proofs, one Silver, the other Clad:

Steve

MEJ7070 · March 30, 2026 2:25AM

MS 67

Rule556 · March 30, 2026 2:26AM

Here are my two type examples:

johnny9434 · March 30, 2026 2:34AM

calgolddiver · March 30, 2026 4:01AM

PR69 DCAM Silver from the bay

Creg · March 30, 2026 5:28AM

Buy the plastic—

normmalin · March 30, 2026 5:43AM

Proof Silver Clad

Mr_Spud · March 30, 2026 5:46AM

lkenefic · March 30, 2026 6:03AM

MEJ7070 · March 30, 2026 7:15AM

@Mr_Spud said:

Very nice. I love your set and I’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your 58s. Curious as to the rough % of coins in your set that you’ve personally “made” with our hosts…..?

Not a lot of bicentennial material in 58 to be had where I do my shopping.

Mr_Spud · March 30, 2026 11:07AM

@MEJ7070 said:

@Mr_Spud said:

Very nice. I love your set and I’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your 58s. Curious as to the rough % of coins in your set that you’ve personally “made” with our hosts…..?

Not a lot of bicentennial material in 58 to be had where I do my shopping.

I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.

Rule556 · March 30, 2026 11:12AM

@Mr_Spud said:

I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.

That takes some ninja level patience. I only maintain one set (peace dollars) in AU58 and those 24 coins are tough enough to find worthy examples. Respect.

Mr_Spud · March 30, 2026 12:29PM

@Rule556 said:

@Mr_Spud said:

I’ve had zero luck in submitting coins to PCGS and getting a 58. What I can do is submit raw MS coins and get at least a 65 pretty easily. Then I sell those and use the funds to purchase 58s already slabbed. For the moderns, I tried wearing down some MS coins by carrying them in my pocket until they had obvious wear, but then I submitted them and they all came back as MS, mainly 64s. I tried this to complete my circulated Type sets across the street, was having trouble finding any AU58s for the modern ones because they are worth less than the slabbing fees. But it didn’t work, so I changed tactics and just keep an eye out for people’s mistakes where people thought they were MS gems but they came back as 58s.

That takes some ninja level patience. I only maintain one set (peace dollars) in AU58 and those 24 coins are tough enough to find worthy examples. Respect.

Sometimes I have to pay more than what they are worth, people try to get their slabbing money back, but still dirt cheap in comparison with the 19th Century AU58s that are my main focus. And with the profits I make on bullion that I stocked up on 20 years ago and/or from selling off MS coins I slabbed myself, it’s like I’m spending free money on them

Rule556 · March 30, 2026 12:46PM

@Mr_Spud said:

Sometimes I have to pay more than what they are worth, people try to get their slabbing money back, but still dirt cheap in comparison with the 19th Century AU58s that are my main focus.

Yeah, it's funny, folks who slab lots of raw coins hate getting them back at AU58, while I'm in the background rubbing my hands together, plotting, and trying to find their ebay store. LOL

The_Dinosaur_Man · March 30, 2026 7:29PM

I guess I did still have a play in this thread. Thanks @johnny9434 .

winesteven · March 31, 2026 2:45AM

Today is Tuesday March 31, and today we show our 1976 Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollars.

I bought mine from Monster Coin Mart in 2016, when Justin Spivak just started that firm.

Steve

MEJ7070 · March 31, 2026 3:00AM

MS 66

winesteven · March 31, 2026 3:02AM

@MEJ7070 said:
MS 66

I love the toning!

Steve

johnny9434 · March 31, 2026 3:42AM

Creg · March 31, 2026 3:50AM

calgolddiver · March 31, 2026 4:34AM

MS65 Silver from BST. While a target for a potential upgrade ... I was drawn by the toning of this example.

Rule556 · March 31, 2026 5:21AM

Mr_Spud · March 31, 2026 5:34AM

calgolddiver · March 31, 2026 6:05AM

such elegant consistency @Mr_Spud !!!

lkenefic · March 31, 2026 7:21AM

JeffersonFrog · March 31, 2026 3:39PM

lordmarcovan · March 31, 2026 10:01PM

Let me play catchup, since I was absent for a few days.

March 29th: here's my Saint.

March 30th: here's my Bicentennial quarter(s). I had to go back to my old early-2000s Registry type set, with the terrible scans. There were both clad and silver variants in that.

March 31st: here are my Bicentennial halves, from the same old type set.

lordmarcovan · March 31, 2026 10:04PM

Good morning. It is April 1st.

Our next type is the Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar (1976).

Again, I have to go back to my old 20th century type set from the early 2000s, with the scanned images. That set called for both the silver and clad versions.

johnny9434 · March 31, 2026 10:17PM

lkenefic · March 31, 2026 11:21PM

lordmarcovan · March 31, 2026 11:26PM

Bicentennial Ike dollars.

Brings back a fond memory. Bear with me as I go off on a slight tangent, and down Memory Lane.

When I was a kid, back in the late '70s and very early '80s, my grandfather would have one big birthday party in the summertime for all of his grandchildren, up at his mountain farm in North Carolina. There would be lots of fun entertainment and nice gifts for all of us. (I still have two of the collector knives he gave me. One of them- a Randall- is worth a few hundred bucks now.)

Anyway, one June, for the grandchildren's party, Granddaddy took a big old wooden horse trough from the apple barn. It was not very high off the ground but was really long. He filled it with white sand. Buried in the sand were dozens and dozens of Bicentennial Ike dollars. He stood at the end of the trough with a stopwatch, and each of us grandkids were given an allotted amount of time to dig and sift through the sand to see how many coins we could scoop up. I think we were given something like one minute on the clock (the littler kids were given a bit longer). I forget how many Ikes I found. Maybe a dozen or so.

Anyway, if you'll forgive the brief digression, here's Granddaddy's WW2 deployment medal, and a picture of him from one of those parties at the farm.

winesteven · April 1, 2026 12:17AM

@lordmarcovan said:
Bicentennial Ike dollars.

Brings back a fond memory. Bear with me as I go off on a slight tangent, and down Memory Lane.

When I was a kid, back in the late '70s and very early '80s, my grandfather would have one big birthday party in the summertime for all of his grandchildren, up at his mountain farm in North Carolina. There would be lots of fun entertainment and nice gifts for all of us. (I still have two of the collector knives he gave me. One of them- a Randall- is worth a few hundred bucks now.)

Anyway, one June, for the grandchildren's party, Granddaddy took a big old wooden horse trough from the apple barn. It was not very high off the ground but was really long. He filled it with white sand. Buried in the sand were dozens and dozens of Bicentennial Ike dollars. He stood at the end of the trough with a stopwatch, and each of us grandkids were given an allotted amount of time to dig and sift through the sand to see how many coins we could scoop up. I think we were given something like one minute on the clock (the littler kids were given a bit longer). I forget how many Ikes I found. Maybe a dozen or so.

Anyway, if you'll forgive the brief digression, here's Granddaddy's WW2 deployment medal, and a picture of him from one of those parties at the farm.

I love it! What a phenomenal story, personalized employer medal, and most importantly, memories!

Steve

MEJ7070 · April 1, 2026 12:22AM

MS 65

winesteven · April 1, 2026 12:22AM

Steve

Rule556 · April 1, 2026 3:28AM

calgolddiver · April 1, 2026 4:51AM

PR69DCAM photos courtesy of @robec
@lordmarcovan - great story and memories !!

Mr_Spud · April 1, 2026 6:00AM

I have an AU58 in my Circulated 7070 Type sets, but I don’t yet have a picture, so here’s a screenshot from the Cert Verication page

And, for a twist, here’s one I carried as a pocket piece before submitting it to PCGS in hopes of getting an AU58, but instead it came back as MS63. This was before I found the AU58 on eBay

Creg · April 1, 2026 7:19AM

The Collaborative "Virtual 7070" Type Set Project

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