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MrEureka
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edited March 10, 2026 9:52AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I’ll go first.

You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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  • World67
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    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

  • Catbert
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    An 1870-S Half Dollar is a rare beast (@MS65)! I too don't understand the post since there isn't a comparable quarter of that date/mint?

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  • RedRocket
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    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    Except there isn't a quarter...

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  • RedRocket
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    I have two coins in my hand that equal 75c. One is an 1870-S quarter and the other is not an 1870-S half dollar...

  • RedRocket
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    Except there isn't a quarter...

    Well then, I'm right there with Morgan White.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @RedRocket said:
    I have two coins in my hand that equal 75c. One is an 1870-S quarter and the other is not an 1870-S half dollar...

    Then the other one is a 75 cent piece.

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  • oldabeintx
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    …when I buy a five-figure coin that is just ok in order to add to a set.

  • World67
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    @RedRocket said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    Except there isn't a quarter...

    Well then, I'm right there with Morgan White.

  • johnny9434
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    @RedRocket said:
    I have two coins in my hand that equal 75c. One is an 1870-S quarter and the other is not an 1870-S half dollar...

    Told ya change was involved

  • CaptHenway
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    Records have been found that prove that an 1870-S Quarter was struck for the SF Mint corner stone.

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @CaptHenway said:
    Records have been found that prove that an 1870-S Quarter was struck for the SF Mint corner stone.

    Is it still there?

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  • dansco7070
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    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    da fuq?!?!??!????!???!?

  • RedRocket
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Records have been found that prove that an 1870-S Quarter was struck for the SF Mint corner stone.

    Is it still there?

    Stick around until 2070 and let's find out together.

  • Crypto
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    @CaptHenway said:
    Records have been found that prove that an 1870-S Quarter was struck for the SF Mint corner stone.

    Worth a read

    https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v07n16a14.html

  • Lakesammman
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    50c v. 25c?? Size matters.

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  • BillJones
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    When you don't give a rat's tail about most of the new coins the mint is issuing.

    When I was kid in 1964, the introduction of the Kennedy Half Dollar was a big deal. I could not wait to get one. I finally got one in May of 1964 from my local bank.

    The Ike Dollar was a big deal, but not as much as the Kennedy coin in 1971. I looked forward to getting the silver Proof Ike.

    Now there are so many new coins that I don't care. I am interested in the Semiquincentennial coins which are to be made for circulation, but I can wait for the Proof set to them. By the looks of things, i won't see much of them in circulation since I rarely get change any more. A dealer at the Lakeland, Florida show was selling the the quarter for $2.50.

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  • RedRocket
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    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    da fuq?!?!??!????!???!?

    Yes.
    The 1965 Half Dollar (known as the Kennedy half dollar in Mass.) is made up of a core of pure silver with cladding layered over that with a final rinse of silver.
    The 1965 quarter (known as "Two Bits" in Texas) is curated from pure 90% clad followed by 10% mix of nickel and copper.
    There is a distinctive appearance between the two. Easily identified as to the color of the metals each possess. This allows you to instinctively separate the two so as not to accidently spend a half dollar for a quarter, or more embarrassingly, a quarter for a half dollar.

  • BillJones
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    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’ll go first.

    You know you’re jaded when you get a rush of excitement when you see an 1870-S half dollar in MS65 offered for sale, and then a big let down a second or two later when you realize it’s a half dollar and not a quarter.

    I'm jaded from not understanding your post.

    OP thought a half dollar was a quarter and discovered the quarter wasn't a half dollar.
    Same thing happened to me when I thought a 1965 quarter was a 1965 (40% silver) half dollar.
    The disappointment reigns supreme.

    da fuq?!?!??!????!???!?

    Yes.
    The 1965 Half Dollar (known as the Kennedy half dollar in Mass.) is made up of a core of pure silver with cladding layered over that with a final rinse of silver.
    The 1965 quarter (known as "Two Bits" in Texas) is curated from pure 90% clad followed by 10% mix of nickel and copper.
    There is a distinctive appearance between the two. Easily identified as to the color of the metals each possess. This allows you to instinctively separate the two so as not to accidently spend a half dollar for a quarter, or more embarrassingly, a quarter for a half dollar.

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jmlanzaf
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    @Rc5280 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Rc5280 said:
    What a waste of a thread.

    Really? THIS is the thread you're complaining about after the weekend we had?

    I guess I'm Jaded lol

    Lol.

    Wait till the poster formerly known as Mr. Brooklyn gets out of jail. You'll come back to this thread for comfort.

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  • MasonG
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    Pure 90% clad?

  • jmlanzaf
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    @MasonG said:
    Pure 90% clad?

    Paging CladKing

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  • RedRocket
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MasonG said:
    Pure 90% clad?

    Paging CladKing

    Red believes he prefers, "King of Clads" when referring to him in the third person.
    Regards,
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    (Bronze Bro)

  • oldglorycoins
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    @cladking , it seems your advice is needed

  • jmlanzaf
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    @oldglorycoins said:
    @cladking , it seems your advice is needed

    Dear God, no. It was a joke

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  • RedRocket
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    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

  • jacrispies
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    Your dream coin is on the auction block, and you see the only bidder competition is Charles Link. He is casually having side conversation with his number paddle constantly raised, care-free no matter the hammer price.

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @MFeld said:
    You know you’re jaded when…
    You see a gorgeous MS68 or PR68 classic type coin but have a negative reaction becaise it looks overgraded.

    No sticker for you.

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  • MrEureka
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    I’ve been hoping to find an 1870-S quarter since I was a teenager.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • CaptHenway
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    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    Disagree on what? Facts?

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  • MrEureka
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    Disagree on what? Facts?

    Your facts or mine?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • jmlanzaf
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    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Not the 1662/1999 overdate?

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  • World67
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Not the 1662/1999 overdate?

    No, that one leaves room for delusion at least. Arguing against the known and easily verifiable silver clad composition is like arguing against 2+2=4.

  • Rc5280
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Not the 1662/1999 overdate?

    The 40% Kennedy.

    One more derailed thread on the books.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Not the 1662/1999 overdate?

    No, that one leaves room for delusion at least. Arguing against the known and easily verifiable silver clad composition is like arguing against 2+2=4.

    2+2=1 (mod 3)

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • DoubleEagle59
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    .......You look at most of your collection as bullion.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Of all the strangest hills, this is the strangest (or, if you prefer, the most strange).

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  • numis1652
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    When a miserably worn ( actually Fair condition ) slabbed as VG 1792 pattern “ silver plug “ cent with replaced plug sells for $75000 today and I once owned a mint state piece . Jaded I am

  • jmlanzaf
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    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @BillJones said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @dansco7070 said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @MrEureka said:

    Huh?

    The 1965 Kennedy half dollar had 80% silver, 20% copper outside layers with a core that was 79.1% copper and 20.9% silver. The overall alloy was 40% silver and 60% copper.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    This may be the strangest hill I've seen anyone die on so far.

    Not the 1662/1999 overdate?

    No, that one leaves room for delusion at least. Arguing against the known and easily verifiable silver clad composition is like arguing against 2+2=4.

    I think you underestimate the power of delusions.

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  • lermish
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    ...when you come to the PCGS forum and only expect to see threads from trolls and delusional people instead of fun and educational posts from well established forum members.

    :'(

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  • fathom
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Records have been found that prove that an 1870-S Quarter was struck for the SF Mint corner stone.

    Is it still there?

    Yeah I saw it, still there I have x-ray vision.

  • thebeav
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    The year 1870 for a seated half has always had a special place in my numismatic memories.
    I was a shiny new numismatist in 1979 when I bought an 1870 half that had been folded over, like a clam. It came over the counter with a deal and I didn't pay too much attention to it. It got thrown into a 'parking-lot-find' cigar box. A few months later, on a quiet afternoon, I saw this half again. I decided I had to pry it open. Took a little doing, but, sure enough, it was a Carson City issue.
    I sent it off to Kamal Ahwash, Mr. Seated Liberty. He called me and offered me 400 dollars for the unfolded coin. That was a lot of money to me at the time, and I was so happy. I ran into him at the next Fun show and introduced myself and reminded him about the coin. He was honestly happy that he had made me happy. What a nice guy !

  • RedRocket
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    If iPhones were around in 1870 I bet you dollar to donuts, 50c would have been enough to purchase one as long as that half dollar was made of silver and not clad.

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