I might consider that if the rest of the world wasn't involved too.
Are smelters in Europe backed up also?
Check youtube or call that tiny coin shop down in florida lolz. THKS
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@RedneckHB said:
... the discount has been increasing.
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No, it has not been "increasing". It has been fluctuating (up and down) with the paper silver price.
The discount on 90% silver coin increased when the paper silver price increased rapidly.
The discount on 90% silver coin diminished when the paper silver price dropped rapidly.
It has always been that way, including 1980. Nothing new here.
The paper price of silver is always more volatile than the physical silver price.
@RedneckHB said:
... the discount has been increasing.
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No, it has not been "increasing". It has been fluctuating (up and down) with the paper silver price.
The discount on 90% silver coin increased when the paper silver price increased rapidly.
The discount on 90% silver coin diminished when the paper silver price dropped rapidly.
It has always been that way, including 1980. Nothing new here.
The paper price of silver is always more volatile than the physical silver price.
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Paper price is tracking spot, your physical gutter is all selling below melt assuming you can find someone willing to send it off to the smelter. RGDS!
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Dealers have to offer discounts because our country has 3rd world ability to refine and smelt. Dealers have nowhere to go with it because we suck at that critical link in the chain.
If a market existed outside of selling to refineries, the capacity of domestic refiners would be irrelevant. Dealers are offering discounts because sellers outnumber buyers.
Yes, exactly. And the discount has been increasing.
the junk silver market (40-90%) is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assumed to concern .999 or better silver. note that bullion dealers resell a lot of the junk silver that they buy. the smelter is a small part of the silver market supply equation and their inability to accept/melt junk has nothing to do with demand and everything to do with lease rates. quality silver is easily re-sold when prices are rising, and as always, held by sellers while prices temporarily drop
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Dealers have to offer discounts because our country has 3rd world ability to refine and smelt. Dealers have nowhere to go with it because we suck at that critical link in the chain.
If a market existed outside of selling to refineries, the capacity of domestic refiners would be irrelevant. Dealers are offering discounts because sellers outnumber buyers.
Yes, exactly. And the discount has been increasing.
the junk silver market it is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discuusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assummed to concern .999 or better silver. dealers set different buy and sell prices for for a reason.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
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Dealers have to offer discounts because our country has 3rd world ability to refine and smelt. Dealers have nowhere to go with it because we suck at that critical link in the chain.
If a market existed outside of selling to refineries, the capacity of domestic refiners would be irrelevant. Dealers are offering discounts because sellers outnumber buyers.
Yes, exactly. And the discount has been increasing.
the junk silver market it is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discuusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assummed to concern .999 or better silver. dealers set different buy and sell prices for for a reason.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
not true when discussing demand,supply, and prices of silver. just as sterling/flatware is not a reflection of the real silver market, 40-90% is a discssion of its own
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Dealers have to offer discounts because our country has 3rd world ability to refine and smelt. Dealers have nowhere to go with it because we suck at that critical link in the chain.
If a market existed outside of selling to refineries, the capacity of domestic refiners would be irrelevant. Dealers are offering discounts because sellers outnumber buyers.
Yes, exactly. And the discount has been increasing.
the junk silver market it is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discuusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assummed to concern .999 or better silver. dealers set different buy and sell prices for for a reason.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
Cripes! You are still posting here ...WHY? hahah
BTW, silver has set an unprecedented record (The REAL kind, not the paper POOP you chase) of TEN straight months of spot increase. lolzz...
Dealers have to offer discounts because our country has 3rd world ability to refine and smelt. Dealers have nowhere to go with it because we suck at that critical link in the chain.
If a market existed outside of selling to refineries, the capacity of domestic refiners would be irrelevant. Dealers are offering discounts because sellers outnumber buyers.
Yes, exactly. And the discount has been increasing.
the junk silver market (40-90%) is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assumed to concern .999 or better silver. note that bullion dealers resell a lot of the junk silver that they buy. the smelter is a small part of the silver market supply equation and their inability to accept/melt junk has nothing to do with demand and everything to do with lease rates. quality silver is easily re-sold when prices are rising, and as always, held by sellers while prices temporarily drop
.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
Aint a dealer on this planet willing to buy ASEs at 10+% over spot. Nowhere even close, not even in youtube fantasyland. RGDS!
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.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
Aint a dealer on this planet willing to buy ASEs at 10+% over spot. Nowhere even close, not even in youtube fantasyland. RGDS!
who said buy price, other than you? I'm talking sell price.
again you are on the wrong page. smartest thing you can do is hold your silver comments until you better understand silver
Sellers can ask whatever price they want. Certainly, doesn't mean they are getting it. You of all people should know this. THKS!
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.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
Aint a dealer on this planet willing to buy ASEs at 10+% over spot. Nowhere even close, not even in youtube fantasyland. RGDS!
who said buy price, other than you? I'm talking sell price.
again you are on the wrong page. smartest thing you can do is hold your silver comments until you better understand silver
Sellers can ask whatever price they want. Certainly, doesn't mean they are getting it. You of all people should know this. THKS!
supply and demand sets the price. current ASE prices are 10+% over spot. If they weren't selling price would be lower. you of all people should learn this. i will no longer reply to your uneducated comments. since you refuse to learn anything it is a waste of my time
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Theres an oversupply and nobody wants the stuff, not even the refiners. Who will buy yer gutter? THKS!
P.S. Last Green box I recently sold the dealer confirmed to me that it was going straight to Jack Hunt who is paying $2.00 over on ASE's. Far from the +10% that you claim. I guess the dealer is dumb for selling to Jack at $2 over when he could have been getting +10% over from all that demand coming through his front door? What a joke.
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.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
Aint a dealer on this planet willing to buy ASEs at 10+% over spot. Nowhere even close, not even in youtube fantasyland. RGDS!
who said buy price, other than you? I'm talking sell price.
again you are on the wrong page. smartest thing you can do is hold your silver comments until you better understand silver
Sellers can ask whatever price they want. Certainly, doesn't mean they are getting it. You of all people should know this. THKS!
supply and demand sets the price. current ASE prices are 10+% over spot. If they weren't selling price would be lower. you of all people should learn this. i will no longer reply to your uneducated comments. since you refuse to learn anything it is a waste of my time
It's like an untrained dog leaving steaming piles in every room. Every day. lolzzz
.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
.999 generic rounds discounts increased from -2 (or more) to -4 (or more).
LOL.
Funny thing is you chastised me for intimating that I was talking about a specific type of silver --90%-- (when I never said that), but you then you go and use a specific type of silver for your point. So now I'll chose a specific type. And around we go.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
junk silver and .999 are different products and are priced differently
dealer buy prices and dealer sell prices are two different prices. for those who can't see through their own fog, ASE dealer sell prices are currently 10+%. and yes their buy price will be lower because they are in business to make a profit
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
@blitzdude said:
P.S. Last Green box I recently sold the dealer confirmed to me that it was going straight to Jack Hunt who is paying $2.00 over on ASE's. Far from the +10% that you claim. I guess the dealer is dumb for selling to Jack at $2 over when he could have been getting +10% over from all that demand coming through his front door? What a joke.
"Retail is currently selling ASEs at spot +10%" (I find this to be true)
"WELL ACTUALLY... my dealer is wholesaling it to a guy who buys monster boxes or solid tubes wholesale for +$2/$3, so you're wrong"
This is disingenuous at best and you know better, unless you're dealing in monster boxes and don't understand retail/wholesale dynamics...
Scotsman is buying AGEs @ spot -0.6%, and selling them @ spot +7.8% in quantity. An 8.4% spread.
They are buying 90% silver @ spot -18.1% and selling it @ -8.0% in quantity. A 10.1% spread.
Given the current volatility, these spreads don't seem outrageous even though they are 3X higher than "normal".
At $94 silver, a move of $9.40 is required to cover the current spread. This might be the new normal and a move of $10 in a day isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Buckle up.
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@jmski52 said:
Scotsman is buying AGEs @ spot -0.6%, and selling them @ spot +7.8% in quantity. An 8.4% spread.
They are buying 90% silver @ spot -18.1% and selling it @ -8.0% in quantity. A 10.1% spread.
Given the current volatility, these spreads don't seem outrageous even though they are 3X higher than "normal".
At $94 silver, a move of $9.40 is required to cover the current spread. This might be the new normal and a move of $10 in a day isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Buckle up.
And you consider this a good investment? 10% move just to reach the break-even?? PT was riight. So was that Darwin dude. SMPR!
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This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
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Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
@GoldFinger1969 said:
Wicked reversal in silver...but gold only gave up half her gains. Impressive.
Pretty sure we aint seen nothing yet. Gutter back to the gutter and The Metal of Kings heading north. One is in great demand and one not so much. RGDS!
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This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
.
It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
Not a well thought out comment. There are levels of "quality" or ratings in every market in the world that affect their liquidity and market value......currencies, stocks, bonds, cars, houses, PMs, Beanie Babies, Sports Cards, and yes, even in Coins: PCGS, NGC, CACG, green stickers, + or *, etc. If there were no level of qualities, there probably wouldn't even be a World. Yes indeed, we "split hairs" in every market in the world. Quality and knowledge rule. Even "paper silver" has levels of quality with varying buy/sell spreads.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
.
It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
.
The coin dealer in Minot who does youtube interviews and had been mentioned in this forum previously also must be a liar since he said "nobody, well hardly anybody wants it", Video posted yesterday. Check it out yourself. So yes, "many" folk are saying the same thing as evidenced by their lack of buying.
Serious question for dcarr, are you ok?
Here's the video, because I know you have challenges.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
Not a well thought out comment. There are levels of "quality" or ratings in every market in the world that affect their liquidity and market value......currencies, stocks, bonds, cars, houses, PMs, Beanie Babies, Sports Cards, and yes, even in Coins: PCGS, NGC, CACG, green stickers, + or *, etc. If there were no level of qualities, there probably wouldn't even be a World. Yes indeed, we "split hairs" in every market in the world. Quality and knowledge rule. Even "paper silver" has levels of quality with varying buy/sell spreads.
Derryb said just a few weeks ago that "silver is silver".
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
.
It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
.
The coin dealer in Minot who does youtube interviews and had been mentioned in this forum previously also must be a liar since he said "nobody wants it", Video posted yesterday. Check it out yourself.
Serious question for dcarr, are you ok?
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"Nobody wants it" is a lie.
A truthful statement would be "nobody that he knows wants silver at his price".
Obviously, somebody does want silver, otherwise the price wouldn't be well above $40.
You made the similar false statement that "many" people find entertaining hypocrisy in this forum.
Prove that your statement is not a lie. Show evidence of these "many" people stating as such.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
.
It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
.
The coin dealer in Minot who does youtube interviews and had been mentioned in this forum previously also must be a liar since he said "nobody wants it", Video posted yesterday. Check it out yourself.
Serious question for dcarr, are you ok?
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"Nobody wants it" is a lie.
A truthful statement would be "nobody that he knows wants silver at his price".
Obviously, somebody does want silver, otherwise the price wouldn't be well above $40.
You made the similar false statement that "many" people find entertaining hypocrisy in this forum.
Prove that your statement is not a lie. Show evidence of these "many" people stating as such.
Your question is not at all "serious".
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So personal observations are "lies"?
They say if you are at a poker game and you cant determine the chump, then its probably you....so if you cant see the hypocrisy then, well, you know.
My question is very serious. Not that I care about the answer, but maybe you should.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
.
It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
.
The coin dealer in Minot who does youtube interviews and had been mentioned in this forum previously also must be a liar since he said "nobody wants it", Video posted yesterday. Check it out yourself.
Serious question for dcarr, are you ok?
.
"Nobody wants it" is a lie.
A truthful statement would be "nobody that he knows wants silver at his price".
Obviously, somebody does want silver, otherwise the price wouldn't be well above $40.
You made the similar false statement that "many" people find entertaining hypocrisy in this forum.
Prove that your statement is not a lie. Show evidence of these "many" people stating as such.
Your question is not at all "serious".
.
So personal observations are "lies"?
They say if you are at a poker game and you cant determine the chump, then its probably you....so if you cant see the hypocrisy then, well, you know.
My question is very serious. Not that I care about the answer, but maybe you should.
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You ask a "very serious" question, and you "care not" what the answer is.
Now THAT is some hypocrisy right there.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
Not a well thought out comment. There are levels of "quality" or ratings in every market in the world that affect their liquidity and market value......currencies, stocks, bonds, cars, houses, PMs, Beanie Babies, Sports Cards, and yes, even in Coins: PCGS, NGC, CACG, green stickers, + or *, etc. If there were no level of qualities, there probably wouldn't even be a World. Yes indeed, we "split hairs" in every market in the world. Quality and knowledge rule. Even "paper silver" has levels of quality with varying buy/sell spreads.
Derryb said just a few weeks ago that "silver is silver".
Yup and when it's all going to the smelter anyway who cares if it's an ASE or a CML. All I know is it's headed south,. RGDS!
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Derryb said just a few weeks ago that "silver is silver".
he sure did
he also said there are different qualities of silver that sell at different premiums. the reason premiums are lower for less than .999 is that there is a cost to turn it into ,999
any .999 that goes to the smelter is not being removed frm the market, it is simply being converted into "good delivery bars."
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
If retail stays soft I don't think industrial can hold the price point.
In other words there will need to be more perceived value as a store of value to keep interest/current pricing. That will mean a correction is necessary. $80 is not a real correction. Paper is too treacherous to rely on foundational market price stability.
@fathom said:
The increased volatility is alarming
If retail stays soft I don't think industrial can hold the price point.
In other words there will need to be more perceived value as a store of value to keep interest/current pricing. That will mean a correction is necessary. $80 is not a real correction. Paper is too treacherous to rely on foundational market price stability.
Thoughts?
Sub $20 once the dust settles. Right back to the gutter. Paper gutter is the only place you can get spot. RGDS!
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Gawsh. You better hurry up and sell your 90% at a gain while you can. The fact that you don't do that is proof that you are blowing smoke and have zero credibility.
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@blitzdude said:
Sub $20 once the dust settles. Right back to the gutter. Paper gutter is the only place you can get spot. RGDS!
Predictions are always Fool's Gold....but I think that price is too low.
The level of the breakout would represent a logical worst-case for me....figure low-to-mid $30's. And the fact that silver is holding MOST of the 2025 gains and just loosing the early-2026 blowoff top, the last $30 or so, is impressive.
Gawsh. You better hurry up and sell your 90% at a gain while you can. The fact that you don't do that is proof that you are blowing smoke and have zero credibility.
I've been dumping the gutter for 2+ months now. Pay attention. THKS!
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That's a great question. I know there is no back log in China, but that is state driven!
COPPER is gutter !
Check youtube or call that tiny coin shop down in florida lolz.
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No, it has not been "increasing". It has been fluctuating (up and down) with the paper silver price.
The discount on 90% silver coin increased when the paper silver price increased rapidly.
The discount on 90% silver coin diminished when the paper silver price dropped rapidly.
It has always been that way, including 1980. Nothing new here.
The paper price of silver is always more volatile than the physical silver price.
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Paper price is tracking spot, your physical gutter is all selling below melt assuming you can find someone willing to send it off to the smelter. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
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Or the FAKE shops you don't actually visit? Yaaawn
COPPER is gutter !
the junk silver market (40-90%) is not the silver market. supply/demand (and therefore prices) differ for each. so when your discusion adresses junk silver, say so. otherwise any discussion here is assumed to concern .999 or better silver. note that bullion dealers resell a lot of the junk silver that they buy. the smelter is a small part of the silver market supply equation and their inability to accept/melt junk has nothing to do with demand and everything to do with lease rates. quality silver is easily re-sold when prices are rising, and as always, held by sellers while prices temporarily drop
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Cripes, now we are going to split hairs over all the different forums of gutter metal and who may or may not want to buy it? The paper gutter trades at the advertised price either buy or sell. The physical trash not so much! RGDS!!
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not true when discussing demand,supply, and prices of silver. just as sterling/flatware is not a reflection of the real silver market, 40-90% is a discssion of its own
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Cripes! You are still posting here ...WHY? hahah
BTW, silver has set an unprecedented record (The REAL kind, not the paper POOP you chase) of TEN straight months of spot increase. lolzz...
COPPER is gutter !
.Discounts are also increasing on .999
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so obvious
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.999 ASE currently 10+% over spot. not much of a disount. lol
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Aint a dealer on this planet willing to buy ASEs at 10+% over spot. Nowhere even close, not even in youtube fantasyland. RGDS!
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who said buy price, other than you? I'm talking sell price.
again you are on the wrong page. smartest thing you can do is hold your silver comments until you better understand silver
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Sellers can ask whatever price they want. Certainly, doesn't mean they are getting it. You of all people should know this. THKS!
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supply and demand sets the price. current ASE prices are 10+% over spot. If they weren't selling price would be lower. you of all people should learn this. i will no longer reply to your uneducated comments. since you refuse to learn anything it is a waste of my time
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Theres an oversupply and nobody wants the stuff, not even the refiners. Who will buy yer gutter? THKS!
P.S. Last Green box I recently sold the dealer confirmed to me that it was going straight to Jack Hunt who is paying $2.00 over on ASE's. Far from the +10% that you claim. I guess the dealer is dumb for selling to Jack at $2 over when he could have been getting +10% over from all that demand coming through his front door? What a joke.
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It's like an untrained dog leaving steaming piles in every room. Every day. lolzzz
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.999 generic rounds discounts increased from -2 (or more) to -4 (or more).
LOL.
Funny thing is you chastised me for intimating that I was talking about a specific type of silver --90%-- (when I never said that), but you then you go and use a specific type of silver for your point. So now I'll chose a specific type. And around we go.
This is the hypocrisy that many find so entertaining in these forums and in society in general.
Double LOL.
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Everyone knows the sell price is the true market price, except those who think their audience is dumber than they are.
Maybe I'll list some silver on BST at spot +20. That should make derry happy and prove his point. Haha.
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junk silver and .999 are different products and are priced differently
dealer buy prices and dealer sell prices are two different prices. for those who can't see through their own fog, ASE dealer sell prices are currently 10+%. and yes their buy price will be lower because they are in business to make a profit
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
"Retail is currently selling ASEs at spot +10%" (I find this to be true)
"WELL ACTUALLY... my dealer is wholesaling it to a guy who buys monster boxes or solid tubes wholesale for +$2/$3, so you're wrong"
This is disingenuous at best and you know better, unless you're dealing in monster boxes and don't understand retail/wholesale dynamics...
Scotsman is buying AGEs @ spot -0.6%, and selling them @ spot +7.8% in quantity. An 8.4% spread.
They are buying 90% silver @ spot -18.1% and selling it @ -8.0% in quantity. A 10.1% spread.
Given the current volatility, these spreads don't seem outrageous even though they are 3X higher than "normal".
At $94 silver, a move of $9.40 is required to cover the current spread. This might be the new normal and a move of $10 in a day isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Buckle up.
I knew it would happen.
And you consider this a good investment? 10% move just to reach the break-even?? PT was riight. So was that Darwin dude. SMPR!
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Correction, I meant to type ASEs instead of AGEs.
The fundamentals for silver are more interesting than for gold, although both metals still look very promising.
The fact that blitzie can't figure out how to navigate the silver market isn't my issue. Carry on.
I knew it would happen.
That is a lie. Speak for yourself, not the "many" others that you don't even know.
Nobody else (except perhaps blitzeddude) has ever indicated that they find "hypocrisy" on this forum, and that it is "entertaining". One or two is not "many". But not even you think it is actually "entertaining". You may posture it that way, but you seem to be actually afraid of (not entertained by) what is opined here.
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Silver Eagle rolls are recently selling on eBay for about $104 to $105 per coin.
With paper "spot" at about $94, that is a +$10 premium.
Your above post is nothing but hypocrisy.
Now, would you like to comment on the topic or just continue with your incessant personal attacks?
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How many?
I knew it would happen.
Wicked reversal in silver...but gold only gave up half her gains. Impressive.
huh? Wicked reversal? Or just part of our everyday volatility ...
COPPER is gutter !
Pretty sure we aint seen nothing yet. Gutter back to the gutter and The Metal of Kings heading north. One is in great demand and one not so much. RGDS!
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Oh ye of little faith.
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It can't be a "personal" attack when the target is an anonymous forum alias.
And it isn't an "attack". It is a rebuke of your claim to speak for "many" others.
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Not a well thought out comment. There are levels of "quality" or ratings in every market in the world that affect their liquidity and market value......currencies, stocks, bonds, cars, houses, PMs, Beanie Babies, Sports Cards, and yes, even in Coins: PCGS, NGC, CACG, green stickers, + or *, etc. If there were no level of qualities, there probably wouldn't even be a World. Yes indeed, we "split hairs" in every market in the world. Quality and knowledge rule. Even "paper silver" has levels of quality with varying buy/sell spreads.
The coin dealer in Minot who does youtube interviews and had been mentioned in this forum previously also must be a liar since he said "nobody, well hardly anybody wants it", Video posted yesterday. Check it out yourself. So yes, "many" folk are saying the same thing as evidenced by their lack of buying.
Serious question for dcarr, are you ok?
Here's the video, because I know you have challenges.
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Derryb said just a few weeks ago that "silver is silver".
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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"Nobody wants it" is a lie.
A truthful statement would be "nobody that he knows wants silver at his price".
Obviously, somebody does want silver, otherwise the price wouldn't be well above $40.
You made the similar false statement that "many" people find entertaining hypocrisy in this forum.
Prove that your statement is not a lie. Show evidence of these "many" people stating as such.
Your question is not at all "serious".
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So personal observations are "lies"?
They say if you are at a poker game and you cant determine the chump, then its probably you....so if you cant see the hypocrisy then, well, you know.
My question is very serious. Not that I care about the answer, but maybe you should.
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You ask a "very serious" question, and you "care not" what the answer is.
Now THAT is some hypocrisy right there.
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Yup and when it's all going to the smelter anyway who cares if it's an ASE or a CML. All I know is it's headed south,. RGDS!
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he sure did
he also said there are different qualities of silver that sell at different premiums. the reason premiums are lower for less than .999 is that there is a cost to turn it into ,999
any .999 that goes to the smelter is not being removed frm the market, it is simply being converted into "good delivery bars."
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Are you sure that your not so better half is going to approve posting a YOUTUBE link? lolzz
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The increased volatility is alarming
If retail stays soft I don't think industrial can hold the price point.
In other words there will need to be more perceived value as a store of value to keep interest/current pricing. That will mean a correction is necessary. $80 is not a real correction. Paper is too treacherous to rely on foundational market price stability.
Thoughts?
Sub $20 once the dust settles. Right back to the gutter. Paper gutter is the only place you can get spot. RGDS!
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Sub $20 once the dust settles.
Gawsh. You better hurry up and sell your 90% at a gain while you can. The fact that you don't do that is proof that you are blowing smoke and have zero credibility.
I knew it would happen.
Predictions are always Fool's Gold....but I think that price is too low.
The level of the breakout would represent a logical worst-case for me....figure low-to-mid $30's. And the fact that silver is holding MOST of the 2025 gains and just loosing the early-2026 blowoff top, the last $30 or so, is impressive.
Low to Mid 30's SILVER? hahahah
COPPER is gutter !
2011 bag holder. Can’t forgive himself. :'(
Loves me some shiny!
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I've been dumping the gutter for 2+ months now. Pay attention. THKS!
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