@HalfDime said:
My shipped order for three also shows a W mintmark Congratulations set. Is the mint screwing up the two products and mixing them together?
Is it possible they are sending out 2025's on subscriptions over HHL?
@gyromac said:
so what is the USM going to do with the W Enhanced issue in April now? limit existing subscriptions to 1? if 500,000 proofs sold out in 20 minutes and 60,000 Ps in 15 can't imagine the 125,000 enhanced Ws lasting more than 30 minutes in April.
if you want one sign up for the 1 subscription now and dont complain in April when you get kicked out of the waiting room.
@mach19 said:
The red light is on in subscriptions.... however the HHL is ONE
If you want a 2027, jump on it
The point being , you could purchase the 2026 as long as you didn't exceed the ONE HHL
One has nothing to do with the other.
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@gyromac said:
so what is the USM going to do with the W Enhanced issue in April now? limit existing subscriptions to 1? if 500,000 proofs sold out in 20 minutes and 60,000 Ps in 15 can't imagine the 125,000 enhanced Ws lasting more than 30 minutes in April.
if you want one sign up for the 1 subscription now and dont complain in April when you get kicked out of the waiting room.
You can no longer subscribe for the 2026. If you subscribe now, you are subscribing for 2027 as the 2026 subscriptions have already shipped.
Exactly.
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@alaura22 said:
I was just able to add a 2026 unc ASE to my bag and got conformation email, did I just sub to a 2027? It says 2026
You subscribed to a 2027 even if you clicked the 2026 tile.
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@alaura22 said:
I did, and it says 2026 unc ASE
I will take a screen grab later
I assumed you meant the 2026-P Congratulations set as that is the title of this thread. The 2026 uncirculated ASEs have not come out yet.
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@mach19 said:
There will be more minted for sale .
We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
@alaura22 said:
I did, and it says 2026 unc ASE
I will take a screen grab later
Doesn't matter. All subscriptions, whether or not the coin sells out, ship at release. Any subscriptions entered from some point at around 5 days prior to release forward don't take effect until the next release. Period.
No matter how many more 2026s become available, none will be used to fulfill subscriptions. Ever. That ship sailed on Thursday.
Edit: You are in the wrong thread. There is another thread for the Enhanced Uncirculated. That 2026 subscription is indeed still open, since the coin has not yet been released.
@gyromac said:
so what is the USM going to do with the W Enhanced issue in April now? limit existing subscriptions to 1? if 500,000 proofs sold out in 20 minutes and 60,000 Ps in 15 can't imagine the 125,000 enhanced Ws lasting more than 30 minutes in April.
if you want one sign up for the 1 subscription now and dont complain in April when you get kicked out of the waiting room.
@gyromac said:
so what is the USM going to do with the W Enhanced issue in April now? limit existing subscriptions to 1? if 500,000 proofs sold out in 20 minutes and 60,000 Ps in 15 can't imagine the 125,000 enhanced Ws lasting more than 30 minutes in April.
if you want one sign up for the 1 subscription now and dont complain in April when you get kicked out of the waiting room.
No waiting room hit this morning. Two devices open and I saw add to bag flash on one of them. Hit add to cart and it flipped over to an empty cart. Gone that fast.
@Bullsitter said:
I got the waiting room. It showed 1 minute and lasted 3 minutes.
When I was let in they were gone...... ........they turned the lights off.
same here
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@Bullsitter said:
I got the waiting room. It showed 1 minute and lasted 3 minutes.
When I was let in they were gone...... ........they turned the lights off.
For the mint to have a waiting room for the coins left over from the big sale day is crazy, If it can't handle that traffic it shows how weak and clunky the website really is.
@Bullsitter said:
I got the waiting room. It showed 1 minute and lasted 3 minutes.
When I was let in they were gone...... ........they turned the lights off.
Likewise...
I had no waiting room at all and at 7:30 neither of the 2 coins from the 26th were “add to bag”
We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
@HalfDime said:
For the mint to have a waiting room for the coins left over from the big sale day is crazy, If it can't handle that traffic it shows how weak and clunky the website really is.
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
That said, it's not like a noon release, because there are a lot less people, and because whatever they have they sell in a nanosecond, so the waiting room also clears in no time. The site is not "weak." It is perfectly functional 99.99% of the time.
We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available this week (corrected).
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We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday.
We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday.
ATS was under 9k
OK. And there were also subscriptions sold from 22nd through 26th, off and on. And my subscription didn't get processed until the 24th along with a number of other people on the forum.
Would you like to wager money that next week's sales show 55,000+ sold? The cost of stopping and restarting production is not insignificant and there's no reason they would bother with such a short run. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that they didn't make all 60 000.
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We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday.
ATS was under 9k
OK. And there were also subscriptions sold from 22nd through 26th, off and on. And my subscription didn't get processed until the 24th along with a number of other people on the forum.
Would you like to wager money that next week's sales show 55,000+ sold? The cost of stopping and restarting production is not insignificant and there's no reason they would bother with such a short run. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that they didn't make all 60 000.
You commented "It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday."
There were under 9k "available on Thursday". That's verifiably true and was posted in this forum, was it not?
As for the 55k+ sold on the report, I will take the under but have no incentive to wager anything.
@NJCoin said:
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
The waiting room was apparently a cheap fix to a clunky website that couldn't handle the traffic that the mint was capable of attracting. What they did was restrict the number of users instead of increasing capacity by locking out most visitors.
Also, the waiting room works differently depending on how many browsers we use. I got in after changing settings, with different times for different browsers. This suggests the mint does not use IP but cookies to do this.
There are many out there that probably know how to go around the mint waiting room and get to the front of the line. The "honest abes" meanwhile never get in.
We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday.
ATS was under 9k
OK. And there were also subscriptions sold from 22nd through 26th, off and on. And my subscription didn't get processed until the 24th along with a number of other people on the forum.
Would you like to wager money that next week's sales show 55,000+ sold? The cost of stopping and restarting production is not insignificant and there's no reason they would bother with such a short run. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that they didn't make all 60 000.
You commented "It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday."
There were under 9k "available on Thursday". That's verifiably true and was posted in this forum, was it not?
As for the 55k+ sold on the report, I will take the under but have no incentive to wager anything.
Yes, I was wrong to say Thursday, i should have said "this week". I'll correct it.
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@NJCoin said:
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
The waiting room was apparently a cheap fix to a clunky website that couldn't handle the traffic that the mint was capable of attracting. What they did was restrict the number of users instead of increasing capacity by locking out most visitors.
Also, the waiting room works differently depending on how many browsers we use. I got in after changing settings, with different times for different browsers. This suggests the mint does not use IP but cookies to do this.
There are many out there that probably know how to go around the mint waiting room and get to the front of the line. The "honest abes" meanwhile never get in.
There are queue bypass links that have worked well for last few releases, but worked less well for this one
@NJCoin said:
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
The waiting room was apparently a cheap fix to a clunky website that couldn't handle the traffic that the mint was capable of attracting. What they did was restrict the number of users instead of increasing capacity by locking out most visitors.
Also, the waiting room works differently depending on how many browsers we use. I got in after changing settings, with different times for different browsers. This suggests the mint does not use IP but cookies to do this.
There are many out there that probably know how to go around the mint waiting room and get to the front of the line. The "honest abes" meanwhile never get in.
Whatever. If they didn't do something to slow things down, "honest abes" would just be crowded out by bots, as always happened in the past.
No pleasing everyone. But I can tell you that, to date, I have not used any workarounds to avoid the waiting room, and have always been able to enter the website and buy what I want before sellout.
@NJCoin said:
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
The waiting room was apparently a cheap fix to a clunky website that couldn't handle the traffic that the mint was capable of attracting. What they did was restrict the number of users instead of increasing capacity by locking out most visitors.
Also, the waiting room works differently depending on how many browsers we use. I got in after changing settings, with different times for different browsers. This suggests the mint does not use IP but cookies to do this.
There are many out there that probably know how to go around the mint waiting room and get to the front of the line. The "honest abes" meanwhile never get in.
The waiting room makes sense for the mint's application where they have a few high demand events per year but otherwise don't need the extra capacity.
Most people don't understand how the waiting room works. If you are on the site and in the waiting room before release time, you are then placed in a queue randomly with all others in the waiting room at T-1s. After release time, visitors are placed in queue in the order they arrive to the site.
@ProofCollection said:
Most people don't understand how the waiting room works. If you are on the site and in the waiting room before release time, you are then placed in a queue randomly with all others in the waiting room at T-1s. After release time, visitors are placed in queue in the order they arrive to the site.
Should a person who arrives 5 seconds prior to the release time possibly go to the front of the line to purchase the coins and get right in over those who "waited" for 45 minutes and never got in?
The mint could just have everyone subscribe to the coin and be done with it, no waiting room required.
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If you want a 2027, jump on it
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My 2026 P Congratulations Eagle was delivered today.
This seems unusually fast, no?
Is it possible they are sending out 2025's on subscriptions over HHL?
No. Depends on where you live and what service you paid for. They shipped yesterday.
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Thanks man.
yes...Subscribe now or complain later...
https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-silver-one-ounce-uncirculated-coin-subscription-MT.html
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The point being , you could purchase the 2026 as long as you didn't exceed the ONE HHL
One has nothing to do with the other.
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I give up man !
I subscribed for 10 when the limit was 10, it hasn't been reduced yet.
You can no longer subscribe for the 2026. If you subscribe now, you are subscribing for 2027 as the 2026 subscriptions have already shipped.
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You and I really need to sit down and have a few beers and possibly a couple shot's of bourbon so we can iron our differences . I'm in SOUTHERN MAINE.
There will be more minted for sale .
I love Maine.
I didn't know we had differences. I simply was pointing out that subscriptions have now rolled over to next year on those. It wasn't said with animus.
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I was just able to add a 2026 unc ASE to my bag and got conformation email, did I just sub to a 2027? It says 2026
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It was a sub or a coin?
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Exactly.
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sub
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
A congratulation coin ?
You subscribed to a 2027 even if you clicked the 2026 tile.
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Check your subscriptions on the Mint Website.
Subs are now for 2027
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Hmmmm ?
I did, and it says 2026 unc ASE
I will take a screen grab later
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
The different releases are getting confused.
This sub is for the (Enhanced) Uncirculated version, NOT the Congratulations Set. Next sub shipment for the Uncirculated is in APR-2026.
Source: https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-silver-one-ounce-uncirculated-coin-subscription-MT.html
Edited to add first sentence.
Unc ASE or Congratulations set? The Uncs are available for subscription. They haven't been released yet
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I assumed you meant the 2026-P Congratulations set as that is the title of this thread. The 2026 uncirculated ASEs have not come out yet.
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We won't know that until we see the sales report next week. We know they have several hundred thousand left to go on the dual dated coins, and we know they sold around 9K Philadelphia coins on Thursday.
But we don't exactly how many they sold to the Big Boys, or through subscription. 60K is a relatively small mintage for something like this, so it's hard to rationalize why they wouldn't have made all of them up front. TBD.
Doesn't matter. All subscriptions, whether or not the coin sells out, ship at release. Any subscriptions entered from some point at around 5 days prior to release forward don't take effect until the next release. Period.
No matter how many more 2026s become available, none will be used to fulfill subscriptions. Ever. That ship sailed on Thursday.
Edit: You are in the wrong thread. There is another thread for the Enhanced Uncirculated. That 2026 subscription is indeed still open, since the coin has not yet been released.
I was responding to this^
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
Also the wrong thread. Which is causing us to get our signals crossed.
Bottom line -- Proof ASE subscriptions for 2026 are now closed. Uncirculated are still open.
No waiting room hit this morning. Two devices open and I saw add to bag flash on one of them. Hit add to cart and it flipped over to an empty cart. Gone that fast.
I got the waiting room. It showed 1 minute and lasted 3 minutes.
........they turned the lights off.
When I was let in they were gone......
same here
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For the mint to have a waiting room for the coins left over from the big sale day is crazy, If it can't handle that traffic it shows how weak and clunky the website really is.
I had no waiting room at all and at 7:30 neither of the 2 coins from the 26th were “add to bag”
I think the sales report from 2/22 showed 28,828 of the Congrats at that stage. Add in whatever was available on Thursday and it looks like there’s some room to mint more.
"Weak" is relative. I'm sure the waiting room is on autopilot, and kicks in when site traffic hits a certain level. Now that the word about 7:30 releases is out, with all the people hitting the site at 7:30 looking to grab something, it's not surprising the waiting room kicks in.
That said, it's not like a noon release, because there are a lot less people, and because whatever they have they sell in a nanosecond, so the waiting room also clears in no time. The site is not "weak." It is perfectly functional 99.99% of the time.
There's almost no way they didn't mint all 60,000 for a variety of reasons. The 2/22 sales would only include subscriptions and any ABPP sales. It is quite likely there were 30,000 available this week (corrected).
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
ATS was under 9k
OK. And there were also subscriptions sold from 22nd through 26th, off and on. And my subscription didn't get processed until the 24th along with a number of other people on the forum.
Would you like to wager money that next week's sales show 55,000+ sold? The cost of stopping and restarting production is not insignificant and there's no reason they would bother with such a short run. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that they didn't make all 60 000.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
You commented "It is quite likely there were 30,000 available on Thursday."
There were under 9k "available on Thursday". That's verifiably true and was posted in this forum, was it not?
As for the 55k+ sold on the report, I will take the under but have no incentive to wager anything.
The waiting room was apparently a cheap fix to a clunky website that couldn't handle the traffic that the mint was capable of attracting. What they did was restrict the number of users instead of increasing capacity by locking out most visitors.
Also, the waiting room works differently depending on how many browsers we use. I got in after changing settings, with different times for different browsers. This suggests the mint does not use IP but cookies to do this.
There are many out there that probably know how to go around the mint waiting room and get to the front of the line. The "honest abes" meanwhile never get in.
Yes, I was wrong to say Thursday, i should have said "this week". I'll correct it.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
There are queue bypass links that have worked well for last few releases, but worked less well for this one
Whatever. If they didn't do something to slow things down, "honest abes" would just be crowded out by bots, as always happened in the past.
No pleasing everyone. But I can tell you that, to date, I have not used any workarounds to avoid the waiting room, and have always been able to enter the website and buy what I want before sellout.
The waiting room makes sense for the mint's application where they have a few high demand events per year but otherwise don't need the extra capacity.
Most people don't understand how the waiting room works. If you are on the site and in the waiting room before release time, you are then placed in a queue randomly with all others in the waiting room at T-1s. After release time, visitors are placed in queue in the order they arrive to the site.
Should a person who arrives 5 seconds prior to the release time possibly go to the front of the line to purchase the coins and get right in over those who "waited" for 45 minutes and never got in?
The mint could just have everyone subscribe to the coin and be done with it, no waiting room required.