If in fact there were two dropped numbers that means the gunk that got clogged in the die dropped out. If that's the case, why is the date mostly missing? Clearly the grease-filled die was still grease-filled. 🤔
Maybe 1/2 or less of the gunk in the grease filled die fell out. Maybe that's why the two"9's" are only raised 5-10% or less. Then when the gunk fell out it land perfectly to create the two '6's" directly above and onto the two "9's".
The Mint likes to keep the presses clean
It's a clean machine
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
Please just look at the photos, my eyes are not playing tricks me. I'm stating what I see in the pictures. FACTS!
Pareidolia is what your brain sees... even if it is not exactly what is there. If you really did spend $60 to send this in, you're going to be very disappointed in the results.
Prediction: when PCGS says what we've been saying, you'll just say that they got it wrong.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
If in fact there were two dropped numbers that means the gunk that got clogged in the die dropped out. If that's the case, why is the date mostly missing? Clearly the grease-filled die was still grease-filled. 🤔
The multiple dates are visible, my eyes are not playing tricks on me. I don't know how this minting error occurred, but it did. When it gets certified I'll show you. I appreciate a good challenging discussion, thanks.
Nothing challenging about this. You're basically just shouting at clouds.
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@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
And the banker never wears a mac
In the pouring rain, very strange
I don't know what that means.
In Penny Lane, the barber shaves another customer
We see the banker sitting waiting for a trim
And then the fireman rushes in
From the pouring rain, very strange
Please just look at the pictures again. I uploaded them again. I can clearly see different dates showing depending on the tilt of coin. Dang ! My eyes are not playing tricks on me.
A dropped letter/number would be struck into the coin. The surface would be smooth/level. If the dropped letter/number subsequently fell out then the letter/number would be incuse into the surface.
The anomolies you are seeing appear to be raised so it can't be a dropped number.
Only the "1' is raised.
The two "6's" are not raised. They are flat.
How do you "strike" a flat 6? Silk screen printing? It has to be either raised or incuse.
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What is see us a little discoloration above the 9 that you are interpreting as making a 6 out of the top loop of the 9. This is an excellent illustration of pareidolia.
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I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
@2windy2fish said:
I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
We never do...
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@2windy2fish said:
I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
If in fact there were two dropped numbers that means the gunk that got clogged in the die dropped out. If that's the case, why is the date mostly missing? Clearly the grease-filled die was still grease-filled. 🤔
The multiple dates are visible, my eyes are not playing tricks on me. I don't know how this minting error occurred, but it did. When it gets certified I'll show you. I appreciate a good challenging discussion, thanks.
Nothing challenging about this. You're basically just shouting at clouds.
@2windy2fish said:
I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
True. I had forgotten the exception that proves the rule. But I was mostly talking about errors. Those are the threads that provoke the most ridiculous arguments.
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She is anyway
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@PeacockSteve said:
When I found out the penny was longer going to made. I went to every bank in my town and got as many rolls of pennies as I could possibly get.
How many rolls in total did the banks sell to you?
If you go to completed sales on Ebay these sell for between ten and twenty dollars. a little more, or a little less. Most only miss one or two numbers though.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
And the banker never wears a mac
In the pouring rain, very strange
I don't know what that means.
In Penny Lane, the barber shaves another customer
We see the banker sitting waiting for a trim
And then the fireman rushes in
From the pouring rain, very strange
I must insist that it be called Cent Lane when posted from the United States.
And when are we going to accept that new accounts are vastly smarter than all the board members put together?
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Please just look at the photos, my eyes are not playing tricks me. I'm stating what I see in the pictures. FACTS!
Pareidolia is what your brain sees... even if it is not exactly what is there. If you really did spend $60 to send this in, you're going to be very disappointed in the results.
Prediction: when PCGS says what we've been saying, you'll just say that they got it wrong.
Prediction: The coin won’t be submitted to PCGS.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@JBK said:
That's your problem - you don't understand the minting process. It's not enough to assume that it's an error because it looks different. You need to be able to explain how it happened in the minting process.
I am just wondering what basis you will have for rejecting the TPG's assessment when it comes back as a simple grease-filled die.
In any case, you are paying what is called "tuition" because you refused the free education that people were offering.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that: a certain percentage of the chunk of the gunk that was clogged in the die fell out right before the coin was struck. From how the coin looks, the partial piece that fell out perfectly landed to align with the 2 "9's", then the coin was struck. This is why in the pictures you can see one fully raised "1", two "9's" that are barely raised, two "6's" that directly align with the circle part of the two "9's". Typically, the whole piece that has clogged the die falls out.
@2windy2fish said:
I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
I've already submitted it and got conformation of receipt.
@PeacockSteve said:
When I found out the penny was longer going to made. I went to every bank in my town and got as many rolls of pennies as I could possibly get.
How many rolls in total did the banks sell to you?
Over the course of 2 weeks I got about 50-60 rolls if I had to guess.
@JBK said:
That's your problem - you don't understand the minting process. It's not enough to assume that it's an error because it looks different. You need to be able to explain how it happened in the minting process.
I am just wondering what basis you will have for rejecting the TPG's assessment when it comes back as a simple grease-filled die.
In any case, you are paying what is called "tuition" because you refused the free education that people were offering.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that: a certain percentage of the chunk of the gunk that was clogged in the die fell out right before the coin was struck. From how the coin looks, the partial piece that fell out perfectly landed to align with the 2 "9's", then the coin was struck. This is why in the pictures you can see one fully raised "1", two "9's" that are barely raised, two "6's" that directly align with the circle part of the two "9's". Typically, the whole piece that has clogged the die falls out.
@JBK said:
That's your problem - you don't understand the minting process. It's not enough to assume that it's an error because it looks different. You need to be able to explain how it happened in the minting process.
I am just wondering what basis you will have for rejecting the TPG's assessment when it comes back as a simple grease-filled die.
In any case, you are paying what is called "tuition" because you refused the free education that people were offering.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that: a certain percentage of the chunk of the gunk that was clogged in the die fell out right before the coin was struck. From how the coin looks, the partial piece that fell out perfectly landed to align with the 2 "9's", then the coin was struck. This is why in the pictures you can see one fully raised "1", two "9's" that are barely raised, two "6's" that directly align with the circle part of the two "9's". Typically, the whole piece that has clogged the die falls out.
Yes, definitely don't let it go to your head.
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@JBK said:
That's your problem - you don't understand the minting process. It's not enough to assume that it's an error because it looks different. You need to be able to explain how it happened in the minting process.
I am just wondering what basis you will have for rejecting the TPG's assessment when it comes back as a simple grease-filled die.
In any case, you are paying what is called "tuition" because you refused the free education that people were offering.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
@JBK said:
That's your problem - you don't understand the minting process. It's not enough to assume that it's an error because it looks different. You need to be able to explain how it happened in the minting process.
I am just wondering what basis you will have for rejecting the TPG's assessment when it comes back as a simple grease-filled die.
In any case, you are paying what is called "tuition" because you refused the free education that people were offering.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers, once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
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@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
This is TERRIBLE advice. Clearly the OP is like 18 years old and has no clue what he's talking about and has demonstrated that repeatedly. What good does it do to have the coin in hand if he doesn't have the slightest idea what he is looking at?
Also, stars and post count DON'T MATTER. Post reasonably and be a rational person and you'll get all the respect in the world. Spout inanities and ignore basic reality and you'll get treated in kind.
Like you. Many have had issues with your posts for a long time but I mostly ignored them because they seemed harmless enough. This post of yours is the most intellectually bankrupt post I've seen in a long time.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers, once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers, once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
So, could you explain this rare error rather than encourage a newbie to waste money?
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@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
This is TERRIBLE advice. Clearly the OP is like 18 years old and has no clue what he's talking about and has demonstrated that repeatedly. What good does it do to have the coin in hand if he doesn't have the slightest idea what he is looking at?
Also, stars and post count DON'T MATTER. Post reasonably and be a rational person and you'll get all the respect in the world. Spout inanities and ignore basic reality and you'll get treated in kind.
Like you. Many have had issues with your posts for a long time but I mostly ignored them because they seemed harmless enough. This post of yours is the most intellectually bankrupt post I've seen in a long time.
Well, stars and post count do matter around here. You'll figure it out eventually so don't fret about your relatively low post count. But first and foremost, avoid the temptation to lash out like you've just done. It's not a good look for you or the forum.
Magnum opus. Six stars. I would probably give my sixth star after a month or so to a current five-star holding individual (not you, of course) who posts here with class and distinction and who I deem more worthy than myself to have such an honor bestowed on them.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers, once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
His problem isn’t a low post count or only having one star. It’s that his pictures and words fail to support his claims. In fact, they lead to the explanations that have been provided by posters who are far more knowledgeable than he is on this subject.
And by the way, he posted that he’s already submitted the coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
This is TERRIBLE advice. Clearly the OP is like 18 years old and has no clue what he's talking about and has demonstrated that repeatedly. What good does it do to have the coin in hand if he doesn't have the slightest idea what he is looking at?
Also, stars and post count DON'T MATTER. Post reasonably and be a rational person and you'll get all the respect in the world. Spout inanities and ignore basic reality and you'll get treated in kind.
Like you. Many have had issues with your posts for a long time but I mostly ignored them because they seemed harmless enough. This post of yours is the most intellectually bankrupt post I've seen in a long time.
With his posts, it's hard to know where the ignorance ends and the animus begins...but now that you've recognized that dark quality - that harsche quality, if you will - I think you'll see it more and more often.
... I think it's a 1992 D "Close AM" This was the only time I touched it without using gloves. This exactly how the penny came out of the roll of pennies from the bank/Loomis roll.
Can someone please shed some light this ? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
One thing I can tell you for sure is that it is not from 1992 so it cannot be a 1992-D CLAM. Likely from 1993-1996 because the bow tie does not match ODV-37 for 1992. The obverse die was changed to version ODV-38 beginning in 1993. The reverse die was also changed to RDV-007 and that is why you have the close AM on the reverse [it is correct for the time period].
Great pics BTW -- Very clear.
edit: If you are thinking that the D mint mark is below that first 9 it is not [that would be pareidolia or PSD]. The mintmark is on the master die and none of the 93-96 LMCs have a mint mark in that location.
@JBK said:
Your coin does not have multiple different dates on it. You are seeing optical illusions, or pareidolia.
You found a grease-filled die error that is missing much of the date. Put it in a 2x2 (and flatten the staples) and move on. There are other interesting coins out there that you aren't going to find if you keep spending time on this one.
It's not an optical illusion, the clogged dies full of grease and metal fell out and struck the coin a 2nd time resulting in 1992 and 1662 and 1962 depending on which angle the coin is tilted. Once this error is certified, I'll show you. Thanks for your opinion.
And the banker never wears a mac
In the pouring rain, very strange
I don't know what that means.
In Penny Lane, the barber shaves another customer
We see the banker sitting waiting for a trim
And then the fireman rushes in
From the pouring rain, very strange
I'm blind and I don't like what I think I see . . .
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The Mint likes to keep the presses clean
It's a clean machine
well, this thread was entertaining ... OP ... lots of experts telling you the same thing
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It's an optical delusion.
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Pareidolia is what your brain sees... even if it is not exactly what is there. If you really did spend $60 to send this in, you're going to be very disappointed in the results.
Prediction: when PCGS says what we've been saying, you'll just say that they got it wrong.
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Nothing challenging about this. You're basically just shouting at clouds.
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How do you "strike" a flat 6? Silk screen printing? It has to be either raised or incuse.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
What is see us a little discoloration above the 9 that you are interpreting as making a 6 out of the top loop of the 9. This is an excellent illustration of pareidolia.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I’m fairly certain Lincoln was born after 1662….just sayin..😂
I am also will to wager a fair sum of money that we never get an update with proof that this coin was submitted to any legit TPG.
We never do...
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It's not the exact same because it wasn't an error coin but the OP was similarly combative and dismissive and verbose, but this now (apparently) banned member came back to post disappointing results. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/852683/why-is-the-1963-d-penny-so-difficult-in-high-grade/p1
I was impressed, we don't see that often.
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True. I had forgotten the exception that proves the rule. But I was mostly talking about errors. Those are the threads that provoke the most ridiculous arguments.
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It don't get me high
It can only make me cry
Your Veteran Day poppy
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How many rolls in total did the banks sell to you?
If you go to completed sales on Ebay these sell for between ten and twenty dollars. a little more, or a little less. Most only miss one or two numbers though.
How on earth can you logically think that a coin has two changing dates on it?
Micah Langford - https://www.oldglorycoinsandcurrency.com/
I must insist that it be called Cent Lane when posted from the United States.
And when are we going to accept that new accounts are vastly smarter than all the board members put together?
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Prediction: The coin won’t be submitted to PCGS.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I didn't refuse any free minting/coin/currency education. I try to learn as much as possible. People always tell me I'm super smart, however I don't let it go to my head. I live a humble life. I had a Super high GT Score on the Military ASVAB Test which represents incredible problem-solving abilities.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that: a certain percentage of the chunk of the gunk that was clogged in the die fell out right before the coin was struck. From how the coin looks, the partial piece that fell out perfectly landed to align with the 2 "9's", then the coin was struck. This is why in the pictures you can see one fully raised "1", two "9's" that are barely raised, two "6's" that directly align with the circle part of the two "9's". Typically, the whole piece that has clogged the die falls out.
I've already submitted it and got conformation of receipt.
Over the course of 2 weeks I got about 50-60 rolls if I had to guess.
Yes, definitely don't let it go to your head.
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You might have found something really good. If the experts at PCGS concur with you the naysayers, the LOLers, once again, will have egg on their faces. So, by all means submit your piece to our host here for evaluation. Even if you don't like or disagree with PCGS' opinion, make sure you follow up and let everyone here see for themselves what PCGS says.
One of your problems here is extremely low post count. You haven't been "around the horn" like so many of us have. Having said this I break with the "LOL" crowd on this one. You get the benefit of the doubt with me. YOU have the coin in hand and seeing what you're seeing just like PCGS will once you get around to submitting it to them for evaluation. Submit and report findings.
Another thing is you have only one star. Get more stars and you will be taken more seriously by most of the veterans. I'm trying to get a sixth star. Nobody here has six stars and I want to be first to get six stars. My magnum opus. First with six stars.
You'll learn a lot here. Good luck with your submission.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
This is TERRIBLE advice. Clearly the OP is like 18 years old and has no clue what he's talking about and has demonstrated that repeatedly. What good does it do to have the coin in hand if he doesn't have the slightest idea what he is looking at?
Also, stars and post count DON'T MATTER. Post reasonably and be a rational person and you'll get all the respect in the world. Spout inanities and ignore basic reality and you'll get treated in kind.
Like you. Many have had issues with your posts for a long time but I mostly ignored them because they seemed harmless enough. This post of yours is the most intellectually bankrupt post I've seen in a long time.
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posted to the wrong thread—
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1120871/i-see-a-lot-of-excellent-advice-posted-for-collectors-here-but-what-bad-advice-have-you-read#latest
So, could you explain this rare error rather than encourage a newbie to waste money?
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Well, stars and post count do matter around here. You'll figure it out eventually so don't fret about your relatively low post count. But first and foremost, avoid the temptation to lash out like you've just done. It's not a good look for you or the forum.
Magnum opus. Six stars. I would probably give my sixth star after a month or so to a current five-star holding individual (not you, of course) who posts here with class and distinction and who I deem more worthy than myself to have such an honor bestowed on them.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
His problem isn’t a low post count or only having one star. It’s that his pictures and words fail to support his claims. In fact, they lead to the explanations that have been provided by posters who are far more knowledgeable than he is on this subject.
And by the way, he posted that he’s already submitted the coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
With his posts, it's hard to know where the ignorance ends and the animus begins...but now that you've recognized that dark quality - that harsche quality, if you will - I think you'll see it more and more often.
... I think it's a 1992 D "Close AM" This was the only time I touched it without using gloves. This exactly how the penny came out of the roll of pennies from the bank/Loomis roll.
One thing I can tell you for sure is that it is not from 1992 so it cannot be a 1992-D CLAM. Likely from 1993-1996 because the bow tie does not match ODV-37 for 1992. The obverse die was changed to version ODV-38 beginning in 1993. The reverse die was also changed to RDV-007 and that is why you have the close AM on the reverse [it is correct for the time period].
Great pics BTW -- Very clear.
edit: If you are thinking that the D mint mark is below that first 9 it is not [that would be pareidolia or PSD]. The mintmark is on the master die and none of the 93-96 LMCs have a mint mark in that location.
A macintosh [mac] is a British raincoat.
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Then how are you taking all of them extra pictures?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I haven't submitted in a while... isn't there a way for a submitter to share their submission so that others can watch what happens?
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Fan leaves ain't gonna make you see changing dates!
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HOW do you submit Anything without knowing the date?
I think you meant "dates".
Just put "various" on the form
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I'm thinkin' of writing a Collector's Universe forum Survivor Guide for Newbies. My magnum opus that might catch a sixth star for me.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
Write "Figure it out.That's what I'm paying you to do." in the "DATE" column.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
So, could you explain this rare error rather than encourage a newbie to waste money?
You are on "Ignore"? Remember? Mind if I mention you in my survival guide for newbies?
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)
Einstein certainly was forward-thinking...
Pants on fire !
I'm blind and I don't like what I think I see . . .