@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
I'm not even really a Morgan guy. I like nicely struck Morgans, but I have a very wide taste and most of my best coins are Bust Halfs, and a large part of that is ... I like my dealer. There was a fellow on Cointalk - many years ago, who loved circulated Bust Halfs. He really go me into admiring them for their historical value and charm.
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
@SimonW said:
You mean “choke out” all the dealer cases? Morgans would be so much more interesting if there were less of them. The vast majority weren’t used as coins anyway, more like the American Eagle of the 1800’s. None of them are particularly rare, just big and expensive. I currently have one, that I’m going to sell 😂.
I’m glad people like Morgans, I’ll never understand that bottomless pit though.
I do have a soft spot for the pretty toned ones, however.
None of them are even close to actually rare except for BM proofs but that's not what this thread is about. Others only in a narrow sense which isn't how most collect it.
@MFeld said:
“No matter where you go in coin collecting, Morgans always steal the show”
To direct such a comment to a large group of collectors with varying collecting preferences, sounds silly to me.
It can seem silly to you. Morgans are still the kings of any coin show, and the King of US numismatics. It has always been that way. It will not change in the foreseeable future. Morgans get more attention and will outsell any other coin type, and that there are so many of them just fuels the business even more.
That’s not even close to being true, coin collecting in the US began en force when large copper coins started disappearing from circulation. Morgan’s hadn’t even been minted yet.
It's more than that.
It's likely and more believable that the majority of the most common dates which represent a noticeable proportion of the supply are predominantly part of inactive collections or owned in multiple for financial reasons. Very unlikely more than a low minority of the 1MM+ "BU" 1881-S and similar dates are mostly owned by active collectors for active collections. This inference is based upon my concurrent assumption on the size of the US collector base.
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
@TimNH said:
Ugh, the Morgans. They sure do steal the show. Go into any coin show and it's table after table of MS morgans, all identical, people oohing and ahhing over this date or that VAM or toning or whatever .. they seem to get more attention than everything else combined.
And then I tune in to the coin auctions (guilty pleasure even when I'm not buying anything), and it's good fun seeing what everything goes for.. and then the Morgans come on, then it's hours of identical MS morgans, one after another, pulling great big prices as if they are "rare" .. well OK maybe that particular date/VAM is rare, but there are so many of those that the rarity kinda goes away, doesn't it?
Don't get me started on Morgans...
I agree with you and for some reason I still buy them.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
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@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
@TimNH said:
Ugh, the Morgans. They sure do steal the show. Go into any coin show and it's table after table of MS morgans, all identical, people oohing and ahhing over this date or that VAM or toning or whatever .. they seem to get more attention than everything else combined.
And then I tune in to the coin auctions (guilty pleasure even when I'm not buying anything), and it's good fun seeing what everything goes for.. and then the Morgans come on, then it's hours of identical MS morgans, one after another, pulling great big prices as if they are "rare" .. well OK maybe that particular date/VAM is rare, but there are so many of those that the rarity kinda goes away, doesn't it?
Don't get me started on Morgans...
I agree with you and for some reason I still buy them.
Because they are nice and fun coins. The design worked for the technology that they used at the time. If there wasn't a lot of them, there would be no market for them.
A Guide Book of Morgan Silver Dollars, 6th Edition
By Q. David Bowers · 2018
ISBN: 9780794846428, 0794846424
Page count: 304
Published: October 9, 2018
Format: Paperback
Publisher: Whitman-Cdn Publishing
Language: English
Author: Q. David Bowers
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
@mrbrklyn said:
I didn't really mean any controversary with it. It thought I was stating the obvious.
No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
As a wise man once said: "Every where you go, there you are!"
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@CaptHenway said:
As a wise man once said: "Every where you go, there you are!"
I think his name was Obviousman.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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@RedRocket said:
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
@RedRocket said:
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
As you just proved. Lol
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@RedRocket said:
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
@RedRocket said:
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
As you just proved. Lol
As you just proved, heh,heh.
I never said I was going to ignore him.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@RedRocket said:
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
As you just proved. Lol
As you just proved, heh,heh.
I never said I was going to ignore him.
Nor did I—I agreed that it was a good idea. I’m as weak as you.
@TimNH said:
Ugh, the Morgans. They sure do steal the show. Go into any coin show and it's table after table of MS morgans, all identical, people oohing and ahhing over this date or that VAM or toning or whatever .. they seem to get more attention than everything else combined.
And then I tune in to the coin auctions (guilty pleasure even when I'm not buying anything), and it's good fun seeing what everything goes for.. and then the Morgans come on, then it's hours of identical MS morgans, one after another, pulling great big prices as if they are "rare" .. well OK maybe that particular date/VAM is rare, but there are so many of those that the rarity kinda goes away, doesn't it?
Don't get me started on Morgans...
I went to a small show today, about 8 or 9 tables. I'd say about half the coins i could see were Morgans. I like them, they were a focus for me when I was a new collector, but it's a little frustrating when I see one case after another of MS Morgans and very very few seated or bust halves.
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No worries. These debates over which series is better, or the best are always fun. The "quarrel" between the Bust coin nuts and the Seated sophisticates was barrels of fun. Morgans are big hunks of silver, popular, and their ubiquity is great for the hobby, but many here would rather collect other series like relatively scarce Seated Liberty dollars, etc.
That was loads of fun, for a barrel of monkey's.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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I'm not even really a Morgan guy. I like nicely struck Morgans, but I have a very wide taste and most of my best coins are Bust Halfs, and a large part of that is ... I like my dealer.
There was a fellow on Cointalk - many years ago, who loved circulated Bust Halfs. He really go me into admiring them for their historical value and charm.
None of them are even close to actually rare except for BM proofs but that's not what this thread is about. Others only in a narrow sense which isn't how most collect it.
It's more than that.
It's likely and more believable that the majority of the most common dates which represent a noticeable proportion of the supply are predominantly part of inactive collections or owned in multiple for financial reasons. Very unlikely more than a low minority of the 1MM+ "BU" 1881-S and similar dates are mostly owned by active collectors for active collections. This inference is based upon my concurrent assumption on the size of the US collector base.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd like to read it.
They have been good sellers at recent shows for me.
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/who-decided-to-make-us-coins-ugly.47237/
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/who-decided-to-make-us-coins-ugly.47237/
Why don't you go back to cointalk and reddit instead of constantly trolling this forum?
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
https://coinweek.com/1886-o-morgan-dollar-a-collectors-guide/
It would seem that he is in forum jail or perhaps even banned over there.
Last seen there in late January, started posting threads here in February. Lucky us.
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
This guy, @mrbrklyn has the identical tenacity as Slick (the "1793 cent" guy) had.
If anyone read through this thread without laughing , you have my condolences.
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I agree with you and for some reason I still buy them.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7 JWP BruceS bigjpst
JWP
I tried looking for it and couldn't find it.
Is this it?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1121095/half-dollars-what-series-is-more-popular-with-collectors-capped-bust-or-liberty-seated#latest
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Because they are nice and fun coins. The design worked for the technology that they used at the time. If there wasn't a lot of them, there would be no market for them.
https://numismanews.com/the-complete-guide-to-morgan-silver-dollar-collecting/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=9780794846428
A Guide Book of Morgan Silver Dollars, 6th Edition
By Q. David Bowers · 2018
Nope. The thread I'm thinking of was posted a couple of years ago.
Sorry for that.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Thanks for looking, @MFeld.
You’re welcome and here’s another try: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13870850#Comment_13870850
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I believe that's the thread. Thanks for finding it for me.
Thanks for digging it up, both of you. It was a fun read.
Glad I could find it and that it was a fun read.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I was raised to show grace to those less fortunate and to those with personality disorders.
For this reason, I am going to leave @mrbrklyn to his own devices. If he wants to continue to yell at the clouds, we collectively should just ignore him.
As a wise man once said: "Every where you go, there you are!"
I think his name was Obviousman.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I like that. Many here tried to nurture him in his earlier posts. He defeated my compassion.
Collectively shunning is great if the forum collectively knows not to post in a thread. It doesn’t work.
Now> @Creg said:
As you just proved. Lol
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
As you just proved, heh,heh.
Well, it looks like somebody got caught stealing.
I never said I was going to ignore him.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Noooooo 🤯
Nor did I—I agreed that it was a good idea. I’m as weak as you.
Well whatever you guys did or didn't do seems to have worked, atleast temporarily. I do see that someone has adopted a new identity, though. 🥸
I went to a small show today, about 8 or 9 tables. I'd say about half the coins i could see were Morgans. I like them, they were a focus for me when I was a new collector, but it's a little frustrating when I see one case after another of MS Morgans and very very few seated or bust halves.
There it is again, big butter is watching
Pat. Pat.
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Morgans, Morgans, everywhere
but where are the Barbers?
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