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lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
edited February 25, 2026 9:27PM in U.S. Coin Forum

An image from an NGC graded Peace Dollar on eBay. So do we think these colors look the way they do because of sub-optimal photography or does it really have that "covered in thick muck" look in hand?

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    Awful looking coin, even worse photo

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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not expect a raw EBay coin to be nicer than its photos but you may get lucky, you kind of just need to wait and see. Hopefully, you got a great price. Did it have a reverse photo or did you just buy it from the obverse photo?

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    I would not expect a raw EBay coin to be nicer than its photos but you may get lucky, you kind of just need to wait and see. Hopefully, you got a great price. Did it have a reverse photo or did you just buy it from the obverse photo?

    It's not raw it's certified just not at our host. Here's the reverse pic, actually how flat that one looks maybe points to maybe bad photography?

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Took me a couple of seconds to figure out your NGC decode. Might be NT and look better in hand. Is it a 23 P, D or S?

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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some collectors like heavy toning, and it is not that common on a graded Peace dollar. I would wait to see what it looks like in hand, who knows?

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2026 11:37AM

    @coastaljerseyguy said:
    Took me a couple of seconds to figure out your NGC decode. Might be NT and look better in hand. Is it a 23 P, D or S?

    Just a P

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @lsica said:

    @coastaljerseyguy said:
    Took me a couple of seconds to figure out your NGC decode. Might be NT and look better in hand. Is it a 23 P, D or S?

    Just a P

    And actually a 22

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what's the grade?

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has potential.

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @PeakRarities said:
    what's the grade?

    Ngc 64

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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the new owner will be pleased.
    I've seen toned coins photographed like that- using either natural light, straight on and the coins are beautiful even though
    the photo is most of the time, not.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess it is a solid coin but I would not expect a high end toner. It is priced at ~380 on eBay from a seller that knows his toners. If it was nicer, the price would be higher since toned Peace Dollars with exceptional color bring big premiums.

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    Welp I bit and bought it. I'll post a pic when I get it. The sellers image doesn't seem to be "juiced", the colors on the actual holder seem to be OK and marks on the holder that pass over both the holder and the coin don't seem to have any unnatural transitions between them. Of course someone good at photoshop could do that, but I'm hoping that between the trouble it would take to do that and the sellers 100% eBay reputation that's unlikely. I am worried though that the colors on the coin aren't toning but are actually just muck on the coin, but hopefully a grade of NGC MS64 precludes this. If those actually are toning colors as I hope I expect to be quite happy with it. Although it doesn't have the dazzling rainbow effects that would be required to bring the price into the stratosphere, multi-colored toning on Peace Dollars is unusual enough on them, even with the mottled colors on this piece.

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @Nephilim said:
    I think the new owner will be pleased.
    I've seen toned coins photographed like that- using either natural light, straight on and the coins are beautiful even though
    the photo is most of the time, not.

    It kind of looks like it was taken with a desktop scanner instead of an overhead photo

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Has potential.

    Ya thats what Im hoping....

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not for me. But the toner crowd might like.

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @lsica said:

    @Nephilim said:
    I think the new owner will be pleased.
    I've seen toned coins photographed like that- using either natural light, straight on and the coins are beautiful even though
    the photo is most of the time, not.

    It kind of looks like it was taken with a desktop scanner instead of an overhead photo

    OK to me it looks like that exactly what he's doing. Compare his overhead pics to the TrueView he's included to an angle shot he's done

    https://ebay.us/m/h3vNMo

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    Ok so there's no way I'm going to be able to take decent enough photos to show all the sparkling of colors this has, so I figured I'd post videos instead. Hopefully they show this coin well

    Obverse
    https://youtube.com/shorts/MZflHjA_Woo?si=oV3tL6FV91vyyDvV

    Reverse
    https://youtube.com/shorts/WiW1f4tPkBo?si=DZZSOuDUV_-B74MF

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks really nice!

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    lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Looks really nice!

    Thank you. Getting a photo that shows all the colors without using so much light that the detail gets all washed out is now the issue.....

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