To dip or not to dip: 1878-CC with tone spot (better pictures and sample dipped coin)
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I know there's an initial thread where I mentioned a group of coins including this one, but I wanted to focus specifically on this one, plus I have better pictures and an example I'd like to show. I realize the last pictures had some saying that they were circ's. They're not...they're definitely full, lusterous BU's except for the 1921 I showed previously.
The picture here of the 1882 here is one that had a tone spot very similar to the one you see here on the 1878-CC. I did a quick 1-second dip, quickly neutralized, and then rinsed the coin. You'll see on the very left, obverse of the 1882 a slight bit of toning left over. I would not do another dip for fear of stripping the luster. To be honest, I can't really tell if the luster has been diminished at all after this first dip. And, yes, I realize this photo with my iPhone doesn't really show the luster and makes the coin look dead. It's not. It's just not a great photo given my lighting.
I did try doing a spot treatment on the 1882 dollar first and it left a noticeable clean spot which was a definite no-go for looking natural. Also, for the record, MS70 was able to remove surface dirt and maybe some insignificant amount of toning but it was essentially useless for these darker tone spots (like on the other coins I showed in the other thread, where I was able to successfully do spot treatment with EZ-est).
Two big questions for the experts here:
Is the 1882 gradable at this point? And, no, I don't intend to send it in for grading as it's not worth it. I just want to know if this will pass muster with the pros.
I really hate the tone spot for marketability of the 1878-CC. Do I leave it alone and sell it as raw (maybe on eBay, maybe a local dealer)? Or do I do a quick dip and take the risk? I am so tempted to do the dip but obviously I'm second-guessing myself. It's not a cheap, bullion coin to mess up.
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I would just get another 78-cc. There are 1000's of them.
Id say its your choice.
It looks like it won't take much to remove that spot. I would dilute the ezest by 50% and dip it for 3 seconds. Then a good long rinse.
I am talking about the 1882.
The 1878 looks like it could be carbon which won't come off.
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If you wanted to keep the 78cc, you can try a spot dip on the dark spot with a que tip dipped in EZ-est. Do not rub but roll over the spot. I would not do a full dip just to remove that 1 spot.
You don't need to dip the entire coin.
Just wet a fine hobby paint brush in the solution and treat the isolated area. Do it in phases. Dilute solution etc.
Wash with distilled water and pat dry.
BTW I saw a coin guy on boob toob do this on a Morgan with isolated tone spot and then he sent in for grading.
Good grade results. Not rejected or labeled "cleaned".
IMO, toning and that spot is not the problem with that 78 that holds down its market value
Based on the results of the 1882, I’d take a chance on the 1878-CC.
Although I don’t think the 1882 merits the cost of grading, yes, I think it would straight-grade.
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Very distracting.
I’d either dip or sell and replaced with another.
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As for the 1878 CC, I would leave it as is, sell it, then buy one that makes me happy.
Good luck with whatever your decision is.
Unless things have changed, he doesn’t own the coin and is helping out a friend.
See here: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1120606/spotted-bu-morgans-including-cc-how-does-this-toning-affect-pricing#latest
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Quick question: if it takes so many tons of pressure to make coins, how can a light rub with a cotton ball or q-tip and hardly any pressure scratch them so easily when cleaning them? Cheers, karl
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pl or dmpl coins are really susceptible to hairlines when using q-tips or similar.
Regular strike coin surfaces are not as delicate but you still need to be careful.
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I don’t see where one would have anything to do with the other.
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Taping them with a cutip soaked with dip helped me in one instance. Each situation - ymmv.