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Interesting Reed Marks on an 1890-cc GSA Morgan

World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

I've never seen head on train track reed marks like that before.


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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post mint damage? Some sorta punch

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:
    Post mint damage? Some sorta punch

    I think it's reed marks from a straight on hit from another dollar. Never seen anything like it before though.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not “reed marks”, imo

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be reed mark, although severe. Un-magnified, probably < 1/2 inch. Here's a photo of a coin I own with the worse reed marks, and looks like 3 or 4 hits would be what can be expected if a direct hit. This one got slammed 3 differnet spots. Its a 92CC and was an early raw buy mistake that I replaced.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its still interesting 🤔

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably net graded, and luckily on the reverse. If at the right price & needed, I would purchase since I think damage from mint bags being moved and thrown around.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White said:
    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

    It reminds me of a coin or coins I’ve seen that were apparently struck from damaged dies. But I might think differently if I were able to examine them in hand.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool. Note that the marks are also on the leg. As best I could line them up are parallel to the breast marks.
    I had a 94S with some reed marks on the eagle breast and shown below. Coin is long ago gone.
    I tried to take a couple photos showing relationship between edge and reverse. Couldn't get phone to focus on edge so moved it to the side.



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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme
    Good eye, didn't even look at the legs earlier. Looking closer there is also 3 reed marks on Eagle's upper left wing from our viewpoint.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Morgan White said:
    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

    It reminds me of a coin or coins I’ve seen that were apparently struck from damaged dies. But I might think differently if I were able to examine them in hand.

    The damage would have to be raised?

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Morgan White said:
    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

    It reminds me of a coin or coins I’ve seen that were apparently struck from damaged dies. But I might think differently if I were able to examine them in hand.

    The damage would have to be raised?

    Or the area on the coin.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Morgan White said:
    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

    It reminds me of a coin or coins I’ve seen that were apparently struck from damaged dies. But I might think differently if I were able to examine them in hand.

    The damage would have to be raised?

    Or the area on the coin.

    Correct. But you mentioned damaged dies which confused me.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Morgan White said:
    It's an NGC 63 GSA dollar currently up for auction at GC.

    I would think if it wasn't reed marks that it wouldn't have straight graded. Seems like too much damage for a straight grade but who knows.

    It reminds me of a coin or coins I’ve seen that were apparently struck from damaged dies. But I might think differently if I were able to examine them in hand.

    The damage would have to be raised?

    Or the area on the coin.

    Correct. But you mentioned damaged dies which confused me.

    Don’t feel too bad about that - I confused myself a bit, too.😬 I sure wish I could remember where I saw a picture of a coin that appeared similar and what it was.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess the main take away is that it's a GSA dollar. So in theory, it came straight from the mint and sat in a bag for 80 years, and it seems unlikely it would be PMD outside of normal mint handling.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am inclined to say reed marks. Took a lot of coincidence. Possibly the first coin in the hopper so it was laying flat at the bottom. Being at the bottom the next coins had to fall further than average and thereby pick up speed. Lastly the impact coin was falling perfectly perpendicular to the target coin. Of course, when you have millions and millions of coins, you increase the odds of coincidences happening.

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