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We seem poised to do 'something' to Venezuela - what will happen to PMs?

carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭✭

PMs have been on a rip for a host of reasons mostly unrelated to military activity. 'Should' we strike VZ, what do you think the PM market reaction would be? We know oil will spike.

Military strike:
1: Immediate (week1) $5-$10 drop in spot (silver) across the board
2: Mid term (month 1) - rebounding spot price as previous pressures have not gone away
3: Long term (2 months+) - spot roars higher unhindered

No Strike (Maduro goes away, promise of fair elections ect)

  • spot roars higher unhindered

Loves me some shiny!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy USO

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    metals nothing.

    oil will probably pop

  • WCCWCC Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    People act on their beliefs, not "fundamentals". Any of the options in the OP could happen with or without intervention.

  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭✭

    Batter up


    Loves me some shiny!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My crystal ball is broken, so I'll just leave this here.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like another attempted forced regime change. Perhaps one day we will get back to the business of minding our own business? Perhaps not. THKS!

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  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭

    Based on this morning’s news, we should see in about 36 hours.

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pity the small scale Texas oil drillers.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pity the small-scale Texas gas drillers as well?

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2026 9:35AM

    the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chile the world’s biggest silver exporters

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    Peru is on the Pacific.

    Chad is in Africa and in any case is not a major silver exporter.

    Higashiyama
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2026 1:15PM

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All eyes are on the silver opening at 6 pm EST Sunday. Any guesses to where will be at 7pm? I'll start it with $78.45

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭

    About 10%, $80 even.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Venezuala converted gold to bitcoin.

    Up to $60 Billion in bitcoin, who has the key?

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    China provided 60-70% of globally traded refined silver until it implemented export controls Jan. 1.

    Those who deny there is not a silver supply problem need to rethink their position.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Venezuala converted gold to bitcoin.

    Up to $60 Billion in bitcoin, who has the key?

    Dummies.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2026 3:16PM

    @derryb said:

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    The Panama canal is 600 miles from Venezuela. Jamaica is closer to Venezuela. So are the BVI.

    What is the concern here?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    second biz under oil: gold mining

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hmmmm gold isn't #2 but is a major natural resource. there is a lot of illegal mining in venezuela

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2026 1:59AM

    This plan seems to have been executed very well (so far).
    That it was apparently this easy indicates that help from within Venezuela was likely.
    This is perhaps an indication that internal support for Maduro in Venezuela was thinner than advertised.

    This might result in an initial reaction towards a stronger dollar.
    I would guess that metals prices will dip for a little while, or at least on the initial market reaction on Monday.

    I am not selling, however (except for the higher-premium collector pieces that I mint).

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Venezuala converted gold to bitcoin.

    Up to $60 Billion in bitcoin, who has the key?

    You talking about the backdoor key?

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2026 8:51AM

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    The Panama canal is 600 miles from Venezuela. Jamaica is closer to Venezuela. So are the BVI.

    What is the concern here?

    Ask the US Navy fleet, they are all over the area.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • psuman08psuman08 Posts: 426 ✭✭✭✭

    Metals will continue to increase as demand is greater than supply. Oil is going to get cheaper, not spike. Venezuelan oil was not going to the West and now it will.

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    The Panama canal is 600 miles from Venezuela. Jamaica is closer to Venezuela. So are the BVI.

    What is the concern here?

    Ask the US Navy fleet, they are all over the area.

    Are you now saying the US Navy is going to blow up boats coming from Peru and Chile that are carrying silver?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2026 1:42PM

    .

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    The Panama canal is 600 miles from Venezuela. Jamaica is closer to Venezuela. So are the BVI.

    What is the concern here?

    Ask the US Navy fleet, they are all over the area.

    Are you now saying the US Navy is going to blow up boats coming from Peru and Chile that are carrying silver?

    nope. maybe they're in the area to guarantee safe passage of venezuelean oil and raw metals to the US. Hey, we just pi$$ed of China who depended heavily on their oil. Venezuela has more oil reserves than any other country.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    .

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @RedneckHB said:

    @derryb said:

    @Higashiyama said:
    @derryb said “the attack has jeopardized the sea route used by Peru and Chad, the world’s biggest silver exporters”

    Can you clarify?

    My bad, I meant Chile (corrected). Peru and Chile are the world's third and forth largest silver producing countries in the world. With China cutting off its silver exports, Peru and Chile, along with Mexico become even more important to western silver supply. Both are on the west coast of S. America (Pacific ocean) and their raw silver shipments to the US travel through the Panama Canal northward near Venezuela.

    The Panama canal is 600 miles from Venezuela. Jamaica is closer to Venezuela. So are the BVI.

    What is the concern here?

    Ask the US Navy fleet, they are all over the area.

    Are you now saying the US Navy is going to blow up boats coming from Peru and Chile that are carrying silver?

    nope. maybe they're in the area to guarantee safe passage of venezuelean oil and raw metals to the US. Hey, we just pi$$ed of China who depended heavily on their oil. Venezuela has more oil reserves than any other country.

    Ok...while that seems apparent, Venezuelan oil does not go through the Panama canal on its way to the US. Your original comment was about silver flowing through the Panama Canal from Peru and Chile and US warships, so just to to understand what you were inferring.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    8 minutes to open

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Uppppppity silver!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2026 1:06AM

    @MilesWaits said:
    Uppppppity silver!

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    I'm sorry but your charts are too small to read on my computer. Can you do a basic commentary?

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭

    @Wingsrule said:
    About 10%, $80 even.

    I was off by about 36 hours :)

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rte592 said:

    What is the meaning of your post?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bubble

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @rte592 said:

    What is the meaning of your post?

    Waiting for the bubble to pop. RGDS!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @rte592 said:

    What is the meaning of your post?

    Simply a picture of Something On the rise or heading up.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

  • batumibatumi Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭

    @rte592 said:

    @derryb said:
    Venezuala converted gold to bitcoin.

    Up to $60 Billion in bitcoin, who has the key?

    You talking about the backdoor key?

    The spooks have it as they likely were the creators of BC!

  • fathomfathom Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2026 9:31AM

    Methinks he refilled that stemware a few times beforehand.

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another Big Nothingburger. :)

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