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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe he was just simply trying to tell you as have many others that the gutter metal is a terrible investment. No need for personal attacks, profanity etc. LuLZ! HLP!

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    I believe he was just simply trying to tell you as have many others that the gutter metal is a terrible investment. No need for personal attacks, profanity etc. LuLZ! HLP!

    It was a horrid investment if you bought in 1963 and sold in 2025. If you bought in the summer of '79 and sold in the early winter it was a great investment.

    Life is timing.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @softparade said:

    @nags said:
    Hoarding silver since 1963 was an absolutely horrendous decision. Likely cost you literally millions opposed to investing in the American economy.

    Easy to cherry pick. Backseat drive. Monday morning QB. Whatevs lol. .... YAWN

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    And 1963 is not 2025.

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  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    S&P 500 index funds first became available to investors in the 1970s, with the key dates differing for institutional and retail investors. The first institutional S&P 500 index fund launched in 1971, and the first broadly available retail S&P 500 index mutual fund launched in 1976. Only magicians could invest in ones in 1963.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2025 6:51PM

    @softparade said:

    @Wingsrule said:
    Opportunity cost always needs to be considered. That same half would have earned about 13x more in the S&P 500.

    Another huge YAWN.

    PM's are just a singular asset class. THIS is a PM forum. Why do you and others feel the need to spam fiat investments that almost all of us are involved with outside of PM's? So, yeah, no shit dude lol

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    Of the 500 companies that were represented in the S&P 500 index in the inaugural year (1957), only 53 of them are still around. so almost 90% of the companies in the 1957 S&P 500 have been dropped from the index, because they either stagnated, folded, or were acquired by another company. And since 2015, nearly 1/3rd of the companies in the S&P 500 have been replaced.

    Some notable S&P 500 companies that went bust (and/or dropped significantly in value) include: ENRON; Sears; and AIG.

    If you constantly drop the weak declining companies and add young strong growing companies, of course the "index" will probably go up.

    The S&P Index was established in 1957. There was no S&P Index fund available prior to 1976. So if an investor wanted to invest in the index prior to 1976, they would have to buy shares in all 500 of the companies represented in the Index.

    If a person bought stock in all of the 1963 S&P 500 companies, the net return would be a lot less than advertised for the index in general, because a lot of those 1963 companies have gone bust.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you constantly drop the weak declining companies and add young strong growing companies, of course the "index" will probably go up.

    This was true in the 1980's and it's true today.

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    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2025 6:33AM

    COMEX and LBMA finally losing their stranglehold on silver. A few years back some here were ridiculed for predicting COMEX's days were numbered. Often, conspiracy theorys become truth.

    Silver Squeeze Armageddon: Why some Banks and Exchanges Could Face Wipeout in 2026

    If you understand what is coming, then you can duck. If not, then you get sucker-punched. - Martin Armstrong

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭✭

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2025 5:25PM

    KITCO overnight just eclipsed 61
    No matter what happens, the OLD SCHOOL $50 ceiling / resistance point is now a DISTANT memory.

    COPPER is gutter !

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a little discouraged today. Without AI this might not happen so every time it sneezes I fear it has something serious.

    I worry too much. It always bounces right back and it's our only hope anyway.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This guy's good. Great article!

    https://silverseek.com/article/silver-giffen-good-setup-could-mean-even-more-explosive-upside

    He touches on a point I've been talking about for years. With some things as price increases the demand follows. Silver is just such and clad its arrow!

    Things are shifting.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been hearing that the cumulative shortfall over the past 5-7 years is around 1.2 billion oz., not the 580 million oz. mentioned in the article.

    Also, a recent number for the next year's shortfall is 300 million oz. instead of the 150 million to 200 million oz. that I had been hearing about.

    No reason to be discouraged. Even without AI, the market dynamics are clear. Any buildout for AI will only cause a massive spike in silver prices to happen much faster and much sharper.

    The structure of the silver market is self-reinforcing. Because demand is now increasing much faster than production for years into the future, a rising price really depends on how much additional above ground silver remains to fill the gap. That source is being depleted faster every year.

    Silver is a strategic metal and it makes good sense to accumulate it.

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    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    who's buying silver:

    If you understand what is coming, then you can duck. If not, then you get sucker-punched. - Martin Armstrong

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2025 12:10PM

    @jmski52 said:
    I've been hearing that the cumulative shortfall over the past 5-7 years is around 1.2 billion oz., not the 580 million oz. mentioned in the article.

    Also, a recent number for the next year's shortfall is 300 million oz. instead of the 150 million to 200 million oz. that I had been hearing about.

    No reason to be discouraged. Even without AI, the market dynamics are clear. Any buildout for AI will only cause a massive spike in silver prices to happen much faster and much sharper.

    The structure of the silver market is self-reinforcing. Because demand is now increasing much faster than production for years into the future, a rising price really depends on how much additional above ground silver remains to fill the gap. That source is being depleted faster every year.

    Silver is a strategic metal and it makes good sense to accumulate it.

    I believe when this happens it will simply be an event, an astronomical increase as the human race updates its beliefs. Success breeds on success as every single participant in the market becomes a buyer playing chicken with one another. See who blinks first. It will be the manipulators who vanish taking vast amounts of what we thought was metal with them.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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