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Anyone up for a Draped Bust 1/2c GTG? (REVEALED)

MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 18, 2025 4:59PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just got the results and TVs back from recent submission. This coin was cracked out of an NGC holder, and subsequently graded 10 points differently by our hosts. Curious as to where any EAC specialists here would place the grade.

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m no specialist. Calling it a vf25

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine -15, slab grade VF-20.

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm no EAC or half cent expert. For me this guess is a difficult one. I'm at VF30-35 by detail appearance. But then there is what I interpret as some mint luster in the protected areas that thinks it should be XF. Maybe it is the lighting in the photo.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2025 3:01AM

    I'm at 25/30 as well ( nice coin )

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m thinking VF20.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F-15 These coins are held to a higher standard by EAC than Grading companies. I would imagine NGC at VF-25-30 and PCGS at VF20 or F-15. Did you have it attributed? Looks like a C-9.
    Jim


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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is F15.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    F-15 These coins are held to a higher standard by EAC than Grading companies. I would imagine NGC at VF-25-30 and PCGS at VF20 or F-15. Did you have it attributed? Looks like a C-9.
    Jim

    Regrettably, I did not include variety attribution for this coin.

    Thanks for the replies so far guys. I’ll post the results this evening!

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Choice color and surfaces, technical F15 wear details but thinking nudged to VF20 because of the attributes.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MEJ7070 said:

    @jesbroken said:
    F-15 These coins are held to a higher standard by EAC than Grading companies. I would imagine NGC at VF-25-30 and PCGS at VF20 or F-15. Did you have it attributed? Looks like a C-9.
    Jim

    Regrettably, I did not include variety attribution for this coin.

    Thanks for the replies so far guys. I’ll post the results this evening!

    Don't worry about it. A C-9 is only an R-2, fairly common.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of the rarity, the CUD makes the coin desirable, especially when color and surfaces this nice. JMO
    Jim


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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20 to VF30

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  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm also at F15

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2025 8:18AM

    I think it just misses VF because of the weak definition of the hair line on the obverse... I'm in at F15 as well.

    Edited to add... decent surfaces and nice color... I like it!

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can see it in a VF20 holder, like it!

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF25

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  • goldengolden Posts: 10,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will guess 20.

  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks to all of you who weighed in. The responses here are almost entirely in line with how I myself graded it after close in hand inspection.

    So let me be clear…..the only reason I cracked this coin was for inclusion into my PCGS 7070 set registry. I did not crack it because I believed it to be undergraded. I was pretty confident that the coin would stay somewhere in the low VF range when I cracked it:

    Was pretty surprised to get my results and see this:

    No gold CAC for this one, I fear. :D

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow….

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  • goldengolden Posts: 10,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Double wow!

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would be a tough sell. JMO Here is more what a VF35 should look like and I feel this a VF30, again, JMO.
    Jim



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  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agreed. Not going to complain about the grading gods throwing me a large bone on this one but I actually would prefer my coins undergraded if I had to chose between over and under.

    I bought for the original, completely non porous surfaces and the healthy level of detail accompanying them. After looking at easily hundreds and maybe 1000+ Draped Bust 1/2cs and large cents this year, Ive come to realize that those characteristics by themselves make coins in the series desirable, despite whatever the number on the holder says.

  • MEJ7070MEJ7070 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hilariously enough, I was looking for a nice DB 1/2c for at least a few months when I finally found this one at the Battlefield Coin Show.

    Then like 4 days after that, this PC45/CAC popped up on Northeast’s website and I immediately snagged it.

    So now I have a very nice VF 20 in a 35 holder sitting on my 7070 bench backing up the CAC 45. Trials and tribulations of a type set collector I suppose.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was thinking perhaps it was bumped a little for having a really nice colored planchet and no issues, but it was bumped a lot. I took a look at coins in CF with similar grades. Some were netted down from their details, but then I saw this one graded 25.

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/45299609

    Maybe you should find the owner and offer an even-up trade. There's almost no price difference in the guides.

    John
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