As of April 2022, when ESPN reporter Jeff Passan cited the statistic, eight position players had achieved a single-season WAR (Wins Above Replacement) of 10 or higher. These players were Barry Bonds (five times), Mike Trout (twice), and Mookie Betts, Rickey Henderson, Joe Morgan, Buster Posey, Alex Rodriguez, and Cal Ripken Jr. (once each)
Aaron Judge has 2 since. Maybe others too?
Looks like there are 60 single seasons with 10 or more for position players in MLB history. BBRef WAR.
Part of it may be a discrepancy in how the calculation is made.
According to Baseball-Reference Bonds has only done it 3 times.
Henderson has never done it. He did have 2, 9.9 seasons.
Buster Posey has never done it. His best season was 7.6.
Ruth 7 times.
Mays 6 times.
Bonds 3 times.
Mantle 3 times.
Cobb 3 times.
7 players 2 times.
15 players 1 time.
27 position players ever. By Baseball-Reference's calculation.
@CardGeek said:
Why didn't the Angels trade 1 great Trout for like 3 really good guys? So they could have a functional team.
Too late. He's past his prime and due a ton of money.
Yeah, I mean years ago. I wasn't following baseball when Trout was doing well. Since I started paying attention again he hasn't been so great.
When I started paying attention to baseball again in 2020, one of my friends came over here and asked me if I knew who Mike Trout was. I had never heard of him. My friend said he was the generational player. The face of baseball.
So, not paying attention to baseball so much from about 2002-2020, I had never heard him mentioned. I watch and read news pretty much every day and have for the past 30 years. I don't usually closely examine the sports section though.
I did not know he had a no trade clause.
Interesting sports path you had. What took your attention away from baseball all that time?
The crazy thing about Trout is that his detractors keep harping on him being injured and somehow trying to use that to discount his generationally elite prime(where he played full time), but the opposite take is that without all those injuries Trout would already have 500 Home Runs at age 33.
As of April 2022, when ESPN reporter Jeff Passan cited the statistic, eight position players had achieved a single-season WAR (Wins Above Replacement) of 10 or higher. These players were Barry Bonds (five times), Mike Trout (twice), and Mookie Betts, Rickey Henderson, Joe Morgan, Buster Posey, Alex Rodriguez, and Cal Ripken Jr. (once each)
For Kershaw comparison, I was just showing the comparison against the two other pitchers someone thought was just as good or whatever they were thinking. WAR means something, it's a metric. This biggest metric for me when comparing players is who wins. The great players usually play on winners or make their teams winners.
Trout is a great player, has great stats. But is team finishes in last place every year. even when Ohtani played with him. Kind of like Pete Maravich or George Gervin -- great scorers, but their teams where usually just ok.
Ohtani goes to LA and instantly becomes the best player on the best team and wins a championship. When he had Trout, they couldn't make the playoffs.
The greatest players win championships -- Bill Russell, Jordan, Brady, Magic, Larry, Mahomes. Or at least compete in the playoffs every year. Trout is a great player as long as nothing is on the line. His stats look great, until the chips get larger. If someone is going to pay $55,000 for a BGS 9.5 card, I would assume you would be getting a Tom Brady Rookie or Ohtani Rookie or a Mario rookie? Bird/Magic Rookie. Kobe Rookie. WINNERS.
Ernie Banks, Killebrew -- have that stigma. Great players, really great, but won zilch.
As of April 2022, when ESPN reporter Jeff Passan cited the statistic, eight position players had achieved a single-season WAR (Wins Above Replacement) of 10 or higher. These players were Barry Bonds (five times), Mike Trout (twice), and Mookie Betts, Rickey Henderson, Joe ****Morgan, Buster Posey, Alex Rodriguez, and Cal Ripken Jr. (once each)
Aaron Judge has 2 since. Maybe others too?
Nice post.
Huh???? Error riddled is a nice post??? BTW the poster was honorable and admitted the huge errors and omissions then corrected it in another post.
BTW RUTH ALONE had 7 10+ WARs including the current all time high single season. MAYS did it 6 times!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
Interesting sports path you had. What took your attention away from baseball all that time?
The crazy thing about Trout is that his detractors keep harping on him being injured and somehow trying to use that to discount his generationally elite prime(where he played full time), but the opposite take is that without all those injuries Trout would already have 500 Home Runs at age 33.
Until 2002 I had a coworker who was a sports fan. After 2002 I just stopped paying attention so much. Office also had season tickets to everything and would give them away if they hadn't been allocated by the day of the game. So I'd end up getting a bunch of Dodgers and Lakers and Kings tickets. At some point they started flipping the tickets if they weren't going to be used instead of giving them to employees. I think they figured out that I'd trade them for store credit sometimes.
Most impressive post season statistic, IMO, is the career leader in ERA (minimum of 30 IP to qualify):
Mariano Rivera - 0.70 ERA, 141.0 IP
The only two other guys in the top 10 with more than 40 IP are
Sandy Koufax - 0.95 ERA, 57.0 IP
Christy Mathewson - 0.97 ERA, 101.2 IP
and most of those runs were Jay Paytons 3 run shot in 2000.
There is a reason Riveria was the first unanimous HOFer, his career in every respect dwarfs all other relievers. He is the primary reason for the late 90s dynasty.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
Most impressive post season statistic, IMO, is the career leader in ERA (minimum of 30 IP to qualify):
Mariano Rivera - 0.70 ERA, 141.0 IP
The only two other guys in the top 10 with more than 40 IP are
Sandy Koufax - 0.95 ERA, 57.0 IP
Christy Mathewson - 0.97 ERA, 101.2 IP
and most of those runs were Jay Paytons 3 run shot in 2000.
There is a reason Riveria was the first unanimous HOFer, his career in every respect dwarfs all other relievers. He is the primary reason for the late 90s dynasty.
Yeah, 0.70 in 141 innings is legendary. I knew he was superb in the playoffs, but didn't realize to what degree. Sadly, my first thought of him is the Luis Gonzalez walkoff.
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Looks like there are 60 single seasons with 10 or more for position players in MLB history. BBRef WAR.
My post was AI generated btw...
Part of it may be a discrepancy in how the calculation is made.
According to Baseball-Reference Bonds has only done it 3 times.
Henderson has never done it. He did have 2, 9.9 seasons.
Buster Posey has never done it. His best season was 7.6.
Ruth 7 times.
Mays 6 times.
Bonds 3 times.
Mantle 3 times.
Cobb 3 times.
7 players 2 times.
15 players 1 time.
27 position players ever. By Baseball-Reference's calculation.
Interesting sports path you had. What took your attention away from baseball all that time?
The crazy thing about Trout is that his detractors keep harping on him being injured and somehow trying to use that to discount his generationally elite prime(where he played full time), but the opposite take is that without all those injuries Trout would already have 500 Home Runs at age 33.
Nice post.
For Kershaw comparison, I was just showing the comparison against the two other pitchers someone thought was just as good or whatever they were thinking. WAR means something, it's a metric. This biggest metric for me when comparing players is who wins. The great players usually play on winners or make their teams winners.
Trout is a great player, has great stats. But is team finishes in last place every year. even when Ohtani played with him. Kind of like Pete Maravich or George Gervin -- great scorers, but their teams where usually just ok.
Ohtani goes to LA and instantly becomes the best player on the best team and wins a championship. When he had Trout, they couldn't make the playoffs.
The greatest players win championships -- Bill Russell, Jordan, Brady, Magic, Larry, Mahomes. Or at least compete in the playoffs every year. Trout is a great player as long as nothing is on the line. His stats look great, until the chips get larger. If someone is going to pay $55,000 for a BGS 9.5 card, I would assume you would be getting a Tom Brady Rookie or Ohtani Rookie or a Mario rookie? Bird/Magic Rookie. Kobe Rookie. WINNERS.
Ernie Banks, Killebrew -- have that stigma. Great players, really great, but won zilch.
Huh???? Error riddled is a nice post??? BTW the poster was honorable and admitted the huge errors and omissions then corrected it in another post.
BTW RUTH ALONE had 7 10+ WARs including the current all time high single season. MAYS did it 6 times!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
.> @1948_Swell_Robinson said:
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Until 2002 I had a coworker who was a sports fan. After 2002 I just stopped paying attention so much. Office also had season tickets to everything and would give them away if they hadn't been allocated by the day of the game. So I'd end up getting a bunch of Dodgers and Lakers and Kings tickets. At some point they started flipping the tickets if they weren't going to be used instead of giving them to employees. I think they figured out that I'd trade them for store credit sometimes.
Interesting post-season career pitching statistics for top 10 in wins:
Player W-L ERA
Pettitte 19-11 3.81
Verlander 17-12 3.58
Smoltz 15-4 2.67
Glavine 14-16 3.30
Kershaw 13-13 4.49
Clemens 12-8 3.75
Foster 12-7 2.54
Maddux 11-14 3.27
Cole 11-6 2.77
Schilling 11-2 2.23
Most impressive post season statistic, IMO, is the career leader in ERA (minimum of 30 IP to qualify):
Mariano Rivera - 0.70 ERA, 141.0 IP
The only two other guys in the top 10 with more than 40 IP are
Sandy Koufax - 0.95 ERA, 57.0 IP
Christy Mathewson - 0.97 ERA, 101.2 IP
BTW > @lahmejoon said:
and most of those runs were Jay Paytons 3 run shot in 2000.
There is a reason Riveria was the first unanimous HOFer, his career in every respect dwarfs all other relievers. He is the primary reason for the late 90s dynasty.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
Yeah, 0.70 in 141 innings is legendary. I knew he was superb in the playoffs, but didn't realize to what degree. Sadly, my first thought of him is the Luis Gonzalez walkoff.
And ZERO of those innings wax against a weak team. All were above . .500 and most were against the very elite of each season.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025