@Morgan White said:
Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.
I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
The blues and purples get me. I'd have to disagree with @MFeld, which I don't usually do.
My post was partly tongue-in-cheek, but what’s your disagreement? That you don't see portions of each side which escaped the heavier applications of artificial color or that I haven’t seen many coins whose surfaces were more fully covered by it? I don’t understand how anyone could disagree with that.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
AU Cleaned, oil-spill retoned color. With this color, I picture someone changing their oil and accidently dropping a coin in the catch bucket along with the drain plug. Oopsies!!
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@jacrispies said:
AU Cleaned, oil-spill retoned color.
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I laughed, but in all seriousness ... the first problem might be the cleaning.
The color is AT, juiced ... and almost laughable, if it wasn't sad.
A word to the OP, pay attention to surface quality ... every square mm worth. And if you don't know what monster toning is, or how it looks and materializes on the coins, pay more attention.
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@pcgsregistrycollector said:
The blues and purples get me. I'd have to disagree with @MFeld, which I don't usually do.
My post was partly tongue-in-cheek, but what’s your disagreement? That you don't see portions of each side which escaped the heavier applications of artificial color or that I haven’t seen many coins whose surfaces were more fully covered by it? I don’t understand how anyone could disagree with that.
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
The blues and purples get me. I'd have to disagree with @MFeld, which I don't usually do.
My post was partly tongue-in-cheek, but what’s your disagreement? That you don't see portions of each side which escaped the heavier applications of artificial color or that I haven’t seen many coins whose surfaces were more fully covered by it? I don’t understand how anyone could disagree with that.
Great Southern sometimes sells problem coiins
I didn’t say anything about that seller for anyone to agree or disagree with.
I simply disagreed with a post that stated: “Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.” And my reason was that I’ve seen many artificially toned coins whose surfaces were thoroughly and completely toned, whereas some areas of the subject coin were lighter/less thoroughly toned.
“I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉”
Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.
I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Whatever it actually is, the photo is incredibly juiced and GSC is known for their cleaned and otherwise altered-surface coins, so I am confident that at the very least the coin doesn't look like the photos, and I would be shocked if the surfaces were uncleaned and naturally toned.
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
The blues and purples get me. I'd have to disagree with @MFeld, which I don't usually do.
My post was partly tongue-in-cheek, but what’s your disagreement? That you don't see portions of each side which escaped the heavier applications of artificial color or that I haven’t seen many coins whose surfaces were more fully covered by it? I don’t understand how anyone could disagree with that.
Great Southern sometimes sells problem coiins
I didn’t say anything about that seller for anyone to agree or disagree with.
I simply disagreed with a post that stated: “Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.” And my reason was that I’ve seen many artificially toned coins whose surfaces were thoroughly and completely toned, whereas some areas of the subject coin were lighter/less thoroughly toned.
“I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉”
Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.
I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉
There is an old adage,
If you have a gallon jug of horse pee and you add a tablespoon of pure glacier water you have a gallon of horse pee.
(You wouldn't drink it.)
If you have a gallon jug of pure glacier water and you add a tablespoon of horse pee you end up with a gallon of horse pee.
(You wouldn't drink it.)
Fairly sure that if you were to purchase that coin, you'd get kicked in the groin from both the coin's appearance and the AT holder regardless of where it was submitted for grading.
The toning looks somewhat old (and maybe unintentional).
But regardless, there appears to be some cleaning under it,
which would significantly impact the value.
After all the feedback you received, I hope you can honestly say that you weren’t asking if the coin would receive a straight/problem-free grade, rather than a detail grade for cleaning or questionable color.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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I think you should not be purchasing any raw coins unless you are prepared to lose money.
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Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.
I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The blues and purples get me. I'd have to disagree with @MFeld, which I don't usually do.
Proud follower of Christ!
My post was partly tongue-in-cheek, but what’s your disagreement? That you don't see portions of each side which escaped the heavier applications of artificial color or that I haven’t seen many coins whose surfaces were more fully covered by it? I don’t understand how anyone could disagree with that.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Great Southern coin auctions are known for problem coins with "juiced" images. I advise you to steer clear.
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AU Cleaned, oil-spill retoned color. With this color, I picture someone changing their oil and accidently dropping a coin in the catch bucket along with the drain plug. Oopsies!!
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
BHNC #AN-10
JRCS #1606
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I laughed, but in all seriousness ... the first problem might be the cleaning.
The color is AT, juiced ... and almost laughable, if it wasn't sad.
A word to the OP, pay attention to surface quality ... every square mm worth. And if you don't know what monster toning is, or how it looks and materializes on the coins, pay more attention.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Great Southern sometimes sells problem coiins
Proud follower of Christ!
I didn’t say anything about that seller for anyone to agree or disagree with.
I simply disagreed with a post that stated: “Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.” And my reason was that I’ve seen many artificially toned coins whose surfaces were thoroughly and completely toned, whereas some areas of the subject coin were lighter/less thoroughly toned.
“I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉”
Of all the artificially toned coins, this one was artificially toned the most.
I disagree.
At least there are portions of each side which are free of heavy applications of artificial toning. And I’ve seen many coins where there were no such areas. 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Whatever it actually is, the photo is incredibly juiced and GSC is known for their cleaned and otherwise altered-surface coins, so I am confident that at the very least the coin doesn't look like the photos, and I would be shocked if the surfaces were uncleaned and naturally toned.
lol
Proud follower of Christ!
There is an old adage,
If you have a gallon jug of horse pee and you add a tablespoon of pure glacier water you have a gallon of horse pee.
(You wouldn't drink it.)
If you have a gallon jug of pure glacier water and you add a tablespoon of horse pee you end up with a gallon of horse pee.
(You wouldn't drink it.)
A partically AT'ed coin is an AT coin.
peacockcoins
Please stick to only buying coins that have been certified by PCGS or NGC.
Fairly sure that if you were to purchase that coin, you'd get kicked in the groin from both the coin's appearance and the AT holder regardless of where it was submitted for grading.
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$20 says it still smells like rotten eggs
The toning looks somewhat old (and maybe unintentional).
But regardless, there appears to be some cleaning under it,
which would significantly impact the value.
AT.
would this grade
it'll get put into a holder with a non-numeric details grade. not sure if it's maybe au details - cleaned - QC
After all the feedback you received, I hope you can honestly say that you weren’t asking if the coin would receive a straight/problem-free grade, rather than a detail grade for cleaning or questionable color.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Don’t worry; GC has an army of shill bidders. It was obvious years ago when eBay allowed you to see the IDs of bidders.
Sold for $675
Since 1828, probably dipped many, many times and then beautifully re-toned.
A true masterpiece.
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I'm sure you meant GSC as the seller is the notorious Great Southern Coins.
GC is a commonly used abbreviation for Great Collections.
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