Anyone want to comment on my latest Bay purchase? Half Cent Expert's thoughts?

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burfle23
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Maybe overpriced but appears to be "nice":



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  • pcgsregistrycollector
    pcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fake?

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  • Mr_Spud
    Mr_Spud Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2025 5:25PM
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    Not sure if it’s a trick question/counterfiet because it’s @burfle23 but if not, the coin actually looks really nice to me !

    Mr_Spud

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Its a known counterfeit

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  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Look at the eye!

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  • TrickleCharge
    TrickleCharge Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭
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    Do you think this one is more recently struck or has just been floating around for a while unnoticed? I have wondered if they retire the transfer dies after a set amount are made or if they keep them to use again for future strikings.

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Aotearoa said:
    Look at the eye!

  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TrickleCharge said:
    Do you think this one is more recently struck or has just been floating around for a while unnoticed? I have wondered if they retire the transfer dies after a set amount are made or if they keep them to use again for future strikings.

    I think past struck; the group doing them is known, reported to Secret Service and all seller names removed from the bay several years ago. I believe these are floating around; when I see it in-hand and get the cert number we should be able to see when it was slabbed...

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow, if one did not look closely at this auction, I feel many might miss its diagnostics. The holder is amazing to me, with no knowledge of anacs holder diagnostics, if known.
    Please message me the sellers name, if you would.
    Jim


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  • lkenefic
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    I'd have been duped! I don't specialize in Half Cents... thus, I'd have been more reliant on the TPG to catch a fake.

    Thanks for sharing!!

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  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It will be interesting when you get the slab what the cert number on the reverse reveals

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    are we sure anacs didn't get fooled too?

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    there is someone from anacs on the forum

    perhaps they need to know

    @CaptHenway would probably know who

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @COYNGUY Would you care to comment?

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  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK, coming out of the Bay woodwork now...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/336205056816

  • WinLoseWin
    WinLoseWin Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Are they all overstruck on genuine coins? Or only some or few? Recall you showed at least one large cent with overstruck stars of a different type still detectable.

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  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @WinLoseWin said:
    Are they all overstruck on genuine coins? Or only some or few? Recall you showed at least one large cent with overstruck stars of a different type still detectable.

    The 1796 large cent was proven to be struck over a cull large cent. The 1806 half cents (4 of them) were tested and had large amounts of zinc in them, possibly from an odd melting pot...

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2025 6:13PM
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    Looks very nice. CF? Let’s have Anacs weigh in curious what they would say.

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  • jesbroken
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    @burfle23 said:
    OK, coming out of the Bay woodwork now...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/336205056816

    site not available or auction closed.
    Jim


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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2025 6:38PM
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    @jesbroken said:

    @burfle23 said:
    OK, coming out of the Bay woodwork now...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/336205056816

    site not available or auction closed.

    the below means ebay nuked the listing, which it did

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  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nuked listing images; seller stated he is taking it to his "coin store" for verification:




  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    are we sure anacs didn't get fooled too?

    Not only ANACS. As far as i recall ALL of the top TPG"s have certified these as genuine. Excluding CACG because they are new to the scene and these counterfeits go back well over 10 years.

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  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @gumby1234 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    are we sure anacs didn't get fooled too?

    Not only ANACS. As far as i recall ALL of the top TPG"s have certified these as genuine. Excluding CACG because they are new to the scene and these counterfeits go back well over 10 years.

    I have not seen this counterfeit in either a PCGS or an ICG slab. I agree with the 10 year time frame but one passed a TPG recently, and once I have this ANACS example in hand and see the cert # I will see when it was certified.

  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I understand the ANACS example was certified this past summer...

  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Even as a known contemporary counterfeit- it has collector interest and value, no?

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    someone from the higher reaches in anacs is on the forum, but i can't recall the name

    this is the second one you posted here?

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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @sanddollar said:
    Even as a known contemporary counterfeit- it has collector interest and value, no?

    A contemporary counterfeit may have collector interest and value, but that is not what this is.
    A contemporary counterfeit is made and intended to circulate around the time of mint issuance. This counterfeit was made in the last 20 years purely to fool collectors.

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  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, this is the 2nd one I have posted over the years here in an ANACS slab as genuine. They are aware of both...

  • ELVIS1
    ELVIS1 Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭
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    Would have me fooled.. :#

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