This 1880/79-O VAM-4 is destined for regrade at either PCGS or NGC. What would you predict?
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Either 64+ or 65 is all I feel confident enough to say from those images.
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"destined for regrade"
Which TPG had graded it, and what grade did they give it that would warrant a regrade? Did you crack it?
Thanks.
PS: It's hard to determine the level of chatter under that lighting, but a 64 or 65 looks reasonable to me too.
Also, it's a strong looking strike front & center✓
64/65
Note: I'd like to see that In hand
I am going to say AU58.
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I am the absolute last person on earth who should complain or denegrate a picture. Still, this picture has shadow areas that seem almost deliberate. I would need a bright light photo to give an honest assessment. James
80-O, one of the 2 beer bucks and noted for sliders. Anywhere from AU58 to MS62.
I had a coin like that. Obverse haze came back ALTERED SURFACES. Do yourself a favor and pour acetone on the obverse. If it instantly evaporates, you are cool. If it sits there, the coin has been altered - do not regrade.
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By "like that" do you mean same date/mm, similar in grade, or what?
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I mean a Morgan Dollar I thought was BU but was hazy like OP's.
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It is currently graded NTC MS-66! Surprisingly, it's by far one of the nicest 1880/79-O dollars I have ever seen. However, as some have noted, it's hazy and of course, the slab insert prevents examining the edge. Assuming there are no problems with haze or an invisible edge issue, I grade it in-hand as MS-65/64, as the reverse shows a few more marks than the obverse.
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Based on the photos, I would estimate MS62 to MS63, as I see what appears to be a little whispy lines on the obverse.
Good luck!!! Please let us know.
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How are your grading skills? How is the luster of the coin? I am concerned about the luster and wonder if maybe it had been over-dipped at some point.
“Regrade”typically refers to a coin in a TPG holder being resubmitted (to the same company) in that holder. My grade guess is MS62, shot 58.
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I agree 62 is the most likely outcome.
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Predicament.
That might damage the holder plastic and if you take it out of the holder then regrade is less likely to benefit you. Hmmph.
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I have next to zero confidence in my ability to somwhat hazzard a grade estimate based on those images.
Good luck with the coin though. It is a rare one.
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i.e., it's in a fancy 2x2 someone wrote MS66 on.
The haze is worrisome, and there's a patch of friction on the tip of the bust. Bust it out, treat with acetone as mentioned, and post better pics if you can.
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Ms. Liberty’s cheek suggests MS-64, but the hazy luster might give it a lower grade, MS-63 or 62. The “third world grading company” “MS-66” is off the table.
people need to know the difference between mint surfaces and impacted surfaces. Look at the frosty luster directly in front of her ear, in a Gem that would cover her entire cheek. The luster breaks in front of the E (pluribus) is friction, the wispy lines in the fields and matte spots on top of some of the letters are all signs of friction. The perfect example of a slider
People often confuse absence of wear / metal loss as the baseline for UNC and then count the marks when assessing 60-67 but impacted luster and mint surfaces is the baseline assessment when grading to see if it even classifies as UNC. The tricky part is it can have some circulation and still slide in an MS grade but its celling is lowered 62 typically with exceptions being for specific series like early Bust coinage
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